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Post by dbutler69 on Oct 4, 2017 7:36:47 GMT -5
Well, I was going to read the JLA/JSA team-up for 1978, which is in JLA #159 and #160. It features several heroes from the historic past, like Jonah Hex, Enemy Ace, Lady Liberty (from the Tomahawk series), the Viking Prince and the Black Pirate. That was the first JLA issue I ever bought! I remember how shocked I was that the JLA had been defeated by a bunch of people I'd never heard of.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 28, 2017 16:21:41 GMT -5
I was just about to read the next JLA/JSA team-up (in JLA #171 and #172) when I came across the JLA's epic conflict with the Secret Society Of Super-Villains in JLA #166 to #168. So I put the JSA on hold to read the SSOSV story. I've read it before. And not that long ago. I was a big fan of the SSOSV series of the 1970s, and I was heartbroken when it was canceled in the middle of two awesome storylines that had two different organization calling themselves the Secret Society of Super-Villains! One group was led by the Wizard and they went to Earth-Two to take out the JSA one-by-one, and the other group had been hired by the Silver Ghost to kill the Freedom Fighters. Neither story was ever resolved in full, but here and there, you can get an idea of what happened from captions and text pieces. And the Wizard's group, after being defeated (off-panel) by the JSA, was sort of floating around in the ether, and they floated into JLA #166 and took over the bodies of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Zatanna and Green Lantern for a three-part epic battle. The three-parter was reprinted in the SSOSV hardcover collection (Volume Two) along with some black and white art of several issues of SSOSV and the FF that had never been published. That's where I read it. I didn't read JLA in the 1970s so I never knew this JLA story even existed! Great story! Lots of fun! I read the second part last night and I'll probably read the third part tonight.
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Post by batusi on Oct 28, 2017 16:51:52 GMT -5
I read this way back in the late 70's and it was one of my favorite JLA stories.
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Post by String on Oct 28, 2017 17:23:17 GMT -5
So I read the 1976 JLA/JSA team-up in JLA #135 to #137. Bronze Age Bonkers! I love this stuff! This is the one where they meet the Fawcett heroes, like the Marvel Family, Spy Smasher, Bulletman, Bulletgirl, Mr. Scarlet and Pinky. The main villain is King Kull. I've read just enough stories of Captain Marvel that I sort of know who he is, but I don't remember ever reading about his brutal origins or his motives. He is a prehistoric man, but not Homo sapiens. He was the king of the beast-men, also known as the sub-men, and they were wiped out by Homo sapiens in prehistoric times. So he wants to destroy Homo sapiens. And he actually has a pretty good motive, especially for someone who was king of the beast-men. I got to thinking about King Kull while I was walking the dogs this morning. Specifically about Kull and a possible encounter with one of my favorite villains, Vandal Savage. Because doesn't genocide against the beast-men sound like something Vandal Savage would do? It could work something like this: On Earth-S, Vandal Savage led Homo sapiens on a genocidal campaign against the beast-men, but Kull got his revenge against Savage personally by killing him before the dawn of history. On Earth-2, Vandal Savage managed to kill Kull when he wiped out the rest of the beast-men. On Earth-1, they both died in the struggle. Now that there's just the one Earth, we don't have to concern ourselves with any of that. I'm thinking that DC could revive Anthro or Tor and the conflict between Homo sapiens (led by Vandal Savage) and Kull's beast-men could be the focus of the series. Recently, I read some articles about Bronze Age Shazam appearances and the notes surrounding this appearance weren't all that cordial. Apparently, Martin Pasko didn't like the scope of the rewrites Bridwell did for this team-up, to the point where Pasko claims that he's still embarrassed by it and has never read it again since it's release. (Though Pasko also admits to never liking the Fawcett characters all that much in the first place).
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 29, 2017 8:29:53 GMT -5
Got this in the mail to fully appreciate the early issues in color.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 10:06:39 GMT -5
I'm glad you've mentioned it and I got this too and that's was my JLA and still is Icctrombone. Fox, Sekowsky, and Sachs did wonders for my enjoyment of Comics.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 29, 2017 10:25:19 GMT -5
I have these issues in Black and White in the Showcase edition but it couldn't hold my interest. I'm hoping the color will make it better, @mechagodzilla.
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 28, 2017 1:42:55 GMT -5
Over the last couple of days, I read the JLA/JSA team-up in Justice League of America #171 and #172. I've been reading all the JLA/JSA team-ups that I'd never seen before. After this one, I only have one left! The one with the New Gods! (And then I'll probably re-read the one with the Secret Society and the George Perez art and also the one that crossed-over with All-Star Squadron because I love them both SO MUCH!) The one I just read is pretty good! It's sort of a locked-room mystery where the locked room is the JLA satellite. And the murder victim is Mr. Terrific! After a Golden Age career where he never had a rogues gallery, he gets a retro arch-enemy in the Spirit King. And the Spirit King kills Mr. Terrific! But he did it by taking over the body of one of the super-heroes. (I won't say which ...) The Spirit King manages to escape at the end, but the JLA and the JSA are on the case and they bring the Spirit King to justice ... 18 years later in The Spectre #54. (I've never read Spectre #54, but I'm thinking of reading it RIGHT NOW if I can find it online.
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Post by tarkintino on Nov 28, 2017 7:59:05 GMT -5
Dick Dillin cover art (with Giordano inks). I always viewed Dillin to be to the JLA title what Don Heck and Bob Brown were to The Avengers: sort of sketchy and plain. They certainly knew their craft, but they were not the most visually stunning artists on the top group title. Still, its the JLA, and that was always a fun read, no matter the character line-up.
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 28, 2017 11:27:39 GMT -5
Dick Dillin cover art (with Giordano inks). I always viewed Dillin to be to the JLA title what Don Heck and Bob Brown were to The Avengers: sort of sketchy and plain. They certainly knew their craft, but they were not the most visually stunning artists on the top group title. Still, its the JLA, and that was always a fun read, no matter the character line-up. Dick Dillin, Don Heck and Bob Brown are all awesome.
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Post by badwolf on Nov 30, 2017 11:06:06 GMT -5
I think this was my first issue of JLA. I love villain teams and the idea of them switching bodies with the JLA was fascinating to me. (And when I got older I was a little envious of Plant-Master.) Funny this story was never really talked about until Identity Crisis made it relevant.
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 22, 2017 20:09:04 GMT -5
I finally got to the JLA/JSA/New Gods cross-over in JLA #183 to #185. I read the first two parts over the last couple of days. It's pretty awesome. The good news: The second part is George Perez's first issue! The bad new is that the previous issue was the last for Dick Dillin because he died. The other good news is that Power Girl and the Huntress look great whoever is drawing them. And Big Barda and Wonder Woman too! I'm enjoying this three-parter a lot. I'm always kind of wary when I tackle the New Gods in a story not by Kirby because a lot of is ... not so great. But this JLA/JLA team-up is very enjoyable, and it might even be a candidate for Top Five JLA/JSA team-ups.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 20:32:40 GMT -5
I have these issues in Black and White in the Showcase edition but it couldn't hold my interest. I'm hoping the color will make it better, @mechagodzilla. How you liking the color editions so far ... just wondering?
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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 21, 2021 10:48:34 GMT -5
Speaking of JLA and satellites, what about cliques within the JLA? I figure that, when they're relaxing before and after meeting, they'll naturally break off into little subgroups to chat. Batman and Superman, of course, were buddies back in the Satellite Era, so I figure they'll be chatting. Flash and Green Lantern teamed up a lot back in the 60's (because they had the same editor - Julie Schwartz) so I figure they're buddies. Obviously, Green Arrow and Black Canary are good friends with Hal, so they'd be part of that group as well. Also, here's a little fact - Flash was best man at Elongated Man's wedding (off panel), so they must be good friends. Atom and Hawkman also had plenty of team-ups in the 60's, so I figure they must be friends. Obviously Hawkgirl would be part of that subgroup. You'd think the Flash and Atom would get along well, as fellow scientists. I'm not sure about Wonder Woman. Probably with Superman and Batman. Not sure about the fish out of water, poor ol' Aquaman, either. Zatanna might be closer to the people that helped her when she was searching for her father. I don't remember who all was involved in that, except I know that Elongated Man was one of them. I think Atom, Green Lantern, and Hawkman also. Plus Batman, indirectly
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 20, 2022 9:29:59 GMT -5
In the batch of comics I just got in the mail, I got JLA #115. I added it as an afterthought because it was cheap (for being pretty beat-up), and also I’ve never had a JLA 100-page Super-Spectacular.
J’onn J’onzz returns. The Martians are colonizing another planet and they unleash an angry God of Rage named Korge who beats up the Manhunter and sends him to Earth to bring back the JLA because he wants to beat them up too.
Im not sure what he’s angry about. He’s just angry. He would make a great mascot for the Trucker Caravan that tried to shut down Washington for some reason.
So Superman, Green Lantern, the Flash and the Atom all go with J’onn to the planet and they all get beat up, but eventually they figure out to beat him.
It’s the kind of story that reminds me why I never read Justice League as a kid.
This issue also has a JSA story (Evil Star over Hollywood from All-Star #44), which I read within the last few years but I don’t remember very well.
And also a story from JLA #40, which I’m pretty sure I’ve never read.
It was late when I read the new JLA story so I went to bed and did not continue reading the reprints.
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