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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 15, 2019 8:48:23 GMT -5
No doubt he has aged but if you look at his rbi per games played the last two years, he still produces when he’s in the lineup. I guess I’m saying I’m shocked he’s even in viewing distance of that record.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 15, 2019 19:57:05 GMT -5
I ran across a blurb on the MLB site that Brian McCann drove in his 1000 rbi and it made me look at the all time leaders. These are the top 5. Hank Aaron 2,297 Babe Ruth 2,213 Alex Rodriguez 2,086 Albert Pujols 2,020 Barry Bonds 1,996 I was surprised that Albert Pujols was only 277 from the record. He's still in the running , at his current output he might come close. And yet, and yet, remember that as close as all these other guys come to the Babe, he's spotting all those guys, including Aaron, four full years of full-time production. In those four years, he won 78 games. (Not counting his 3-0 record in two winning World Series.) Give him even a measly 50 RBIs as a full-time player in each of those years (Hell, he had 61 in 1918 when he split time between the mound and the outfield and went 13-7 besides!), you get a grasp of how he still bestrides the world of baseball like a Colossus.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 16, 2019 5:49:01 GMT -5
Yes Babe Ruth was amazing. Ted Willians did something similar, didn’t he serve as a fighter pilot in WW 2 and the Korean War? I haven’t looked it up but he certainly missed games that would have brought him closer to the Hr record.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 16, 2019 7:10:49 GMT -5
Yes Babe Ruth was amazing. Ted Willians did something similar, didn’t he serve as a fighter pilot in WW 2 and the Korean War? I haven’t looked it up but he certainly missed games that would have brought him closer to the Hr record. Williams served in both wars (five years total) and lost another half a season to a broken elbow incurred on a catch he made in the All-Star Game. Even so he finished with 97 RBI. He was in his absolute prime in '42-45, and though "old" by some standards in '52 and '53, he averaged about 30 HRs a year from '54 through '58. Even a conservative estimate gives him 150 HRs during those five years lost to the service, which would take him to 671 lifetime. And he was a shoo-in for well over 3,000 hits. Williams was the actual person that John Wayne created as a character.
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Post by The Captain on Jun 16, 2019 7:22:06 GMT -5
Following on the Ted Williams discussion, Cleveland Indians pitcher Bob Feller missed almost four full seasons to WWII right at the beginning of his career. He was out for his 23-25 year-old seasons and only pitched 9 games in his 26-year old season.
He'd averaged 25 wins in his 20-22 year-old seasons, starting 40 games or so in each, so give him probably 85 more wins, which would put him at 350 for his career. As well, you could probably add on another 950-1000 strikeouts to his total, putting him around 3600 and into the top 10 for both wins and strikeouts for his career.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 16, 2019 7:33:59 GMT -5
Following on the Ted Williams discussion, Cleveland Indians pitcher Bob Feller missed almost four full seasons to WWII right at the beginning of his career. He was out for his 23-25 year-old seasons and only pitched 9 games in his 26-year old season. He'd averaged 25 wins in his 20-22 year-old seasons, starting 40 games or so in each, so give him probably 85 more wins, which would put him at 350 for his career. As well, you could probably add on another 950-1000 strikeouts to his total, putting him around 3600 and into the top 10 for both wins and strikeouts for his career. And Feller volunteered right out of the box on December 7. He saw combat in several campaigns and survived a typhoon on the USS Alabama.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 16, 2019 12:51:39 GMT -5
It's a different age now, we can't even get some pro players to stand l for the national anthem. Feller joined the military right away.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 13:15:05 GMT -5
It's a different age now, we can't even get some pro players to kneel for the national anthem. Feller joined the military right away. It's sad, but ... I'm feeling mixed about the whole thing and I wished professional players needs a history lesson to understand what is sacrifice is all about. I admire all the baseball players in the past that joined the military and Feller is my first one in mind.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 16, 2019 13:28:34 GMT -5
It's a different age now, we can't even get some pro players to kneel for the national anthem. Feller joined the military right away. Comparing apples to oranges here. Feller fought so that nobody would have to make forced displays of patriotism, as the populace did in Germany back then. Nothing says freedom like being fined for not standing for the anthem. Besides, I thought we wanted players to stand for the anthem and not kneel.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 16, 2019 13:33:09 GMT -5
Oops. Corrected.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 23:47:59 GMT -5
I'm just going to leave this here... and if you think that might hurt, Seattle Mariners outfielder Mitch Haniger had to go on the 10 day IL with a testicular contusion. There's a reason I no longer play organized sports and am just a spectator now... -M
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Post by String on Jun 17, 2019 19:53:01 GMT -5
Last Friday, I saw on ESPN's bottom line that Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton had been cleared to begin their rehab assignment with the Yankee's Triple A team, Scranton Wilkes-Barre Railriders. That pinged a memory and I went online to check and sure enough, the Durham Bulls were set to play a series this past weekend against Scranton at home in Durham.
I was flabbergasted and mad as heck. Being a Yankees fan, they were going to be playing about 25 minutes from my home. By the time I saw the notice, it was too late to buy tickets for Friday night's game. I couldn't go Saturday because I was going to HeroesCon in Charlotte. I had to work Sunday!!
By Monday morning, the Bulls had won 2 of the three games, Stanton had a two run HR Friday night while Judge struggled at the plate most of the series before getting a RBI single in the third game that helped secure the win for the Railriders.
Over 35,000 fans attended this series making it the highest three-game attendance total in the Bull's history with a record for single game attendance being set last Saturday night with fan attendance being nearly over 12,000.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 9:18:16 GMT -5
Bob Ley ESPN He is retiring from ESPN after 40 years of service. I'm going to miss him and he really a pioneer in sports reporting and his Outside the Lines is one of my favorite shows. He been with ESPN since 1979.
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Post by The Captain on Jun 26, 2019 12:18:18 GMT -5
Bob Ley ESPN He is retiring from ESPN after 40 years of service. I'm going to miss him and he really a pioneer in sports reporting and his Outside the Lines is one of my favorite shows. He been with ESPN since 1979. Bob Ley is the last substance over style person at ESPN. I'm surprised he wasn't let go years ago when they moved to "all sizzle, no steak" as a direction. Ley was always a guy who you could tell was far better than those around him, a true journalist in a sea of chattering heads. Best of luck to him in retirement.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 14:22:07 GMT -5
Bob Ley ESPN He is retiring from ESPN after 40 years of service. I'm going to miss him and he really a pioneer in sports reporting and his Outside the Lines is one of my favorite shows. He been with ESPN since 1979. Bob Ley is the last substance over style person at ESPN. I'm surprised he wasn't let go years ago when they moved to "all sizzle, no steak" as a direction. Ley was always a guy who you could tell was far better than those around him, a true journalist in a sea of chattering heads. Best of luck to him in retirement. Well said ...
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