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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 19, 2017 14:18:34 GMT -5
I just bought bought a bunch of Marvel Conan in digital format from Dark Horse Comics compilations. The material covers the first 100 issues of the monthly Conan the Barbarian title and the first 40 or so issues of Savage Sword of Conan. While I read most of this when it first came out in the order that it was published, I think it would be cool to try to read the stories in chronological order. Obviously, this comes into play primarily with the Savage Sword stories, which skip all over Conan's life. Does anyone know if there is a list that shows these Marvel stories (all from the Roy Thomas era) in chronological order? This sounds like the kind of thing Roquefort Raider might be able to answer.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 19, 2017 15:02:12 GMT -5
I just bought bought a bunch of Marvel Conan in digital format from Dark Horse Comics compilations. The material covers the first 100 issues of the monthly Conan the Barbarian title and the first 40 or so issues of Savage Sword of Conan. While I read most of this when it first came out in the order that it was published, I think it would be cool to try to read the stories in chronological order. Obviously, this comes into play primarily with the Savage Sword stories, which skip all over Conan's life. Does anyone know if there is a list that shows these Marvel stories (all from the Roy Thomas era) in chronological order? This sounds like the kind of thing Roquefort Raider might be able to answer. I would hope so! Samurai, Roy Thomas penned a Chronology of Conan's career in the pages of Conan saga #72, 73, 74, 76, 77, 79, 80, 82, 83, 84, 86, 87, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94 and 95. It covers almost all the issues of Conan the barbarian and Savage sword published by Marvel. I do not agree with Roy on the placement of all issues, especially the basically out of continuity ones that he didn't write (nobody but Roy ever really cared about continuity in the Marvel Conan books) but it's definitely the gold standard. I don't think it's online, but check your PM box!
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Post by samurai32 on Jul 19, 2017 15:44:40 GMT -5
I just bought bought a bunch of Marvel Conan in digital format from Dark Horse Comics compilations. The material covers the first 100 issues of the monthly Conan the Barbarian title and the first 40 or so issues of Savage Sword of Conan. While I read most of this when it first came out in the order that it was published, I think it would be cool to try to read the stories in chronological order. Obviously, this comes into play primarily with the Savage Sword stories, which skip all over Conan's life. Does anyone know if there is a list that shows these Marvel stories (all from the Roy Thomas era) in chronological order? This sounds like the kind of thing Roquefort Raider might be able to answer. I would hope so! Samurai, Roy Thomas penned a Chronology of Conan's career in the pages of Conan saga #72, 73, 74, 76, 77, 79, 80, 82, 83, 84, 86, 87, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94 and 95. It covers almost all the issues of Conan the barbarian and Savage sword published by Marvel. I do not agree with Roy on the placement of all issues, especially the basically out of continuity ones that he didn't write (nobody but Roy ever really cared about continuity in the Marvel Conan books) but it's definitely the gold standard. I don't think it's online, but check your PM box! THANK YOU so much! That looks great. This should be fun!
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Post by berkley on Jul 20, 2017 0:47:53 GMT -5
You probably already know, but some of the original material from those mags has been reprinted later. I know some of Richard Corben's work was collected as Den and Jean "Moebius" Giraud's Blueberry by Marvel/Epic. Otherwise, it's hard to find. Even the Heavy Metal stuff is hard to find, which is so weird, as some of that top level stuff like Druillet as timeless. As far as Dune, I've tried three different times to get through that original movie, and fall asleep at the same part every time. I'm just not getting it. Almost anyone else I know who's read the books loves them. Yes a lot of material has been collected in other formats, even some of it translated to English, but there's a lot of stuff that hasn't and I am interested in the original mags as a snapshot of what kind of material was there at the gestation of some of these more familiar works, what stuff has been overlooked by mainstream American audiences, etc. I like anthologies not just for the headliner material but for the stuff that fills the other pages and sometimes gets overlooked. And these French anthologies or likely rife with stuff I haven't seen before. -M I was looking for something like this a few years ago and the only thing I could find was this: Métal hurlant : index des cent premiers numérosUnfortunately it doesn't give an issue by issue run-down, but it does have indices for artists and writers so you should be able to look up which issues contain work by a particular creator. A bit awkward, but I wasn't able to find anything better. The table of contents for the paper is on the very last page, BTW, as they sometimes have it in French publications. I still think there must be something out there somewhere that gives the contents of each individual issue, but if there is I haven't come across it anywhere so far. I've been able to pick up the odd issue here and there at decent prices on abebooks, though I haven't looked for anything lately. edit: here's something: BDGest online: Métal Hurlant . If you click on the icon that says "sommaire" it gives the contents but it doesn't have every issue. The first 15 are there, but after that it's very sporadic - all the covers are there but not the contents for a lot of them.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 20, 2017 4:13:57 GMT -5
I still wanna know why the inks on Kirby's pencils in 1959 sucked compared to the 1st 2 Fantastic Four issues, as apart from pre-press/printing problems, the art should have been as good as Kirby's work on Challenger's of the Unknown. Sadly everyone who might be able to answer this would be deceased. Are you referring to his Archie work (The Fly, Double Life of Private Strong)? Kirby, with help from his wife, inked his own pencils on those books (as he had earlier on his Green Arrow run), a task he always hated. Those first two FFs, on the other hand, were inked by George Klein. That, presumably, is the reason for the difference. Cei-U! Not sure why you thought nobody knew this! thx Cei-U! ! but as i saw my own ink-lines, and those of colleagues, suffer in the advent of 'new printing methodology' in the 90's, i factored in what you said above (and i'm a fan of Klein, too), but it seems to be 'more tha just that', as the printed versions of FF up til #11 or #12 or so seem shoddy. When I look at photos of Colletta's inks on the original pages, versus the first-run print versions, it really seems that cheaper printing might be the cause. And Terry Austin complained of marvel's switch to plastic-plates in his interview in the X-Men companion volume from the early 80's. then again, PCR voiced his upset over the diminishing quality of ink-brands he'd relied upon since the 80's. So I want to accept your answer 'full-stop' but it feels like maybe there's something else afoot, which i'd lke to rule out.
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Post by Outrajs on Jul 23, 2017 9:26:27 GMT -5
I am having trouble with understanding "pre-crisis" and "post-crisis". What is the Crisis? I have over 20 years of comics to catch up on.so I apologize if this is a completely "duh" type of question.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 23, 2017 10:23:45 GMT -5
I am having trouble with understanding "pre-crisis" and "post-crisis". What is the Crisis? I have over 20 years of comics to catch up on.so I apologize if this is a completely "duh" type of question. I'm certainly no DC expert and others will be able to give you a much more detailed explanation than I, but in a nutshell: Crisis (or Crisis on Infinite Earths, to give it its proper name) was a DC event from 1986, in which the DC Multiverse (Earth-one, Earth-two etc) was eradicated in an attempt to simplify DC's 50-year-old continuity and "rejuvinate" its superheros -- the majority of which had first appeared in the 1930s or '40s. In real terms, it served as a reboot of the DC Universe, in which the pre-Crisis continuity no longer counted and the likes of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman etc were given new, modified origin stories. There's a lot more to it than that, but that's the basics. I'll let others who know their stuff more than me expand on what I've said.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 25, 2017 21:20:23 GMT -5
I am having trouble with understanding "pre-crisis" and "post-crisis". What is the Crisis? I have over 20 years of comics to catch up on.so I apologize if this is a completely "duh" type of question. Crisis on Infinite Earths was a 1985 company-wide event that was intended to finally "fix" DC's previously infinitely complex layers of multiple realities and timelines. Sometime after it had already begun, someone also came up with the idea of using it to fix DC's thoroughly broken and non-sensical continuity that had been running since 1937 without much editorial oversight. So Crisis on Infinite Earths ended with reality being reset in such a way that brought favorite characters from other realities into the main DC reality, as well as with past history being mostly wiped clean. The DCU was restarting (mostly) from scratch. The terms "Pre Crisis" and "Post Crisis" are used to distinguish between stories that exist before this happened and stories that exist after the reset because most of DC's properties were significantly revised in the wake of the Crisis, especially (in order of magnitude of change from least to greatest): Batman, The Justice League, Superman, Wonder Woman, the Justice Society, and the Legion of Superheroes.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 25, 2017 22:46:53 GMT -5
Or DC decided they needed to have continuity because Marvel was doing it and it might appeal to a teeny small percentage of their most anal retentive readers so they got rid of all their cool sci-fi concepts to focus on (again) Marvel style soap opera. SHOCKINGLY, comic sales continued to decrease. I'm still quite upset about this. Gimme another 30 years and I might get over it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 23:07:11 GMT -5
Apparently I was asking about comic adaptations of Dune too early...someone sent me a link to a CBR story announcing Brian Herbert is planning on a series of faithful graphic novel adaptations of Dune... If you dare enter CBR's adfest of a page the original story is here including screen caps of Herbert's tweets announcing the project. -M
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Post by Trevor on Jul 27, 2017 7:57:25 GMT -5
^ Was just coming here to post that.
Perhaps this thread is magic.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 27, 2017 9:27:33 GMT -5
Apparently I was asking about comic adaptations of Dune too early...someone sent me a link to a CBR story announcing Brian Herbert is planning on a series of faithful graphic novel adaptations of Dune... The Dune prequels are to Dune what the Star Wars prequels are to Star Wars, only worse. What The Crossing is to the Avengers. What Waterloo was to Napoleon. They're things that exist, but that we'd rather didn't.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 27, 2017 12:35:59 GMT -5
What Waterloo was to Napoleon. They're things that exist, but that we'd rather didn't. You'd rather have had Napoleon win? That's an interesting alternate-history premise. Has anyone written anything good based on a victorious Napoleon?
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 27, 2017 12:36:31 GMT -5
Apparently I was asking about comic adaptations of Dune too early...someone sent me a link to a CBR story announcing Brian Herbert is planning on a series of faithful graphic novel adaptations of Dune... The Dune prequels are to Dune what the Star Wars prequels are to Star Wars, only worse. What The Crossing is to the Avengers. What Waterloo was to Napoleon. They're things that exist, but that we'd rather didn't. oh, ouch. i mean ouch.totally true, but damn, i'm salty, and by my yardstick, 'ouch'. love that you said it though
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 27, 2017 12:53:40 GMT -5
What Waterloo was to Napoleon. They're things that exist, but that we'd rather didn't. You'd rather have had Napoleon win? That's an interesting alternate-history premise. Has anyone written anything good based on a victorious Napoleon? There have been remarkably less than you'd think. I guess everyone has been too busy rehashing World War II and the American Civil War. There are some that are French language that haven't been translated into English, as far as I can tell. George Collyn's "Unification Day," which came out in an issue of Moorcock's New Worlds was a What If Napoleon won at Waterloo. Mostly it's a few scattered short stories in various alt-history anthologies. It's surprisingly sparse.
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