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Post by MDG on Feb 19, 2018 14:49:24 GMT -5
Don't know if this idea was reused much in the Bronze Age, but in Showcase 4, Infantino (inks by Kubert) showed that Flash saw events as if they were happening in slow-motion, though it was clear that this phenomenon apparently only happened when events were moving very quickly in the "real world." ... Kinda pissed me off when they stole this for the first Spider-Man movie.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 19, 2018 15:24:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the answers. I was thinking that if he saw the entire day in slow motion, then he could never be defeated. How do you sneak up and knock the out the Flash when everyone looks like statues to him ?
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Post by rberman on Feb 19, 2018 16:12:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the answers. I was thinking that if he saw the entire day in slow motion, then he could never be defeated. How do you sneak up and knock the out the Flash when everyone looks like statues to him ? Can you even imagine living in 1,000 fold slow motion? You would go completely insane. It would be "worst super power ever" even if you didn't have to eat 1,000 times as much as an ordinary person. Carrying on a conversation with a normal person would be impossible. The internet would be a godsend; you could send someone a text message, go read all the books on a particular topic, become an expert in that field, and then come back to remind yourself what message you had sent, and what message you received in return. If Kurt Busiek hasn't written an issue of Astro City about how miserable M.P.H.'s life is, he really ought to do so.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 19, 2018 16:17:06 GMT -5
I read in a Dc comic that Barry Allens worst nightmare was to take a plane flight because if there was an explosion he would experience the entire thing in what felt like one day.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 16:37:54 GMT -5
Haven't they done those stories already with Pietro/Quicksilver in Peter David's X-Factor twenty plus years ago? Unless someone has something new to bring to it, there's really no need to rehash the same type of story again (and again and again) with a different speedster this time.
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Post by rberman on Feb 19, 2018 16:43:43 GMT -5
Haven't they done those stories already with Pietro/Quicksilver in Peter David's X-Factor twenty plus years ago? Unless someone has something new to bring to it, there's really no need to rehash the same type of story again (and again and again) with a different speedster this time. Oh, to live in the universe where "This story has already been done repeatedly" stopped people from doing it yet again!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 16:47:12 GMT -5
Haven't they done those stories already with Pietro/Quicksilver in Peter David's X-Factor twenty plus years ago? Unless someone has something new to bring to it, there's really no need to rehash the same type of story again (and again and again) with a different speedster this time. Oh, to live in the universe where "This story has already been done repeatedly" stopped people from doing it yet again! It may not make them stop doing it, but it certainly stops me from buying it, and if enough people didn't buy it, they would stop making it. But fans get the stories their buying patterns deserve, and if they keep buying the same ole same ole, then that's what the publishers will make because they are financially rewarded for doing so. The wallets of fans are the final arbiters of what gets made or not in the long run. -M
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 19, 2018 19:43:55 GMT -5
Oh, to live in the universe where "This story has already been done repeatedly" stopped people from doing it yet again! It may not make them stop doing it, but it certainly stops me from buying it, and if enough people didn't buy it, they would stop making it. But fans get the stories their buying patterns deserve, and if they keep buying the same ole same ole, then that's what the publishers will make because they are financially rewarded for doing so. The wallets of fans are the final arbiters of what gets made or not in the long run. -M I've read you post this several times and my answer to it is that comic book buyers like the characters. They want to keep visiting Peter Parker and the rest. The price to visit your old friends is recycled stories.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 19, 2018 20:30:06 GMT -5
It may not make them stop doing it, but it certainly stops me from buying it, and if enough people didn't buy it, they would stop making it. But fans get the stories their buying patterns deserve, and if they keep buying the same ole same ole, then that's what the publishers will make because they are financially rewarded for doing so. The wallets of fans are the final arbiters of what gets made or not in the long run. -M I've read you post this several times and my answer to it is that comic book buyers like the characters. They want to keep visiting Peter Parker and the rest. The price to visit your old friends is recycled stories. They also buy books they think are objectively bad because they have a character the buyer likes. Which says to the publisher “keep doing exactly this and I’ll buy it.” So they get the garbage they want and pay for.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 23:12:10 GMT -5
It may not make them stop doing it, but it certainly stops me from buying it, and if enough people didn't buy it, they would stop making it. But fans get the stories their buying patterns deserve, and if they keep buying the same ole same ole, then that's what the publishers will make because they are financially rewarded for doing so. The wallets of fans are the final arbiters of what gets made or not in the long run. -M I've read you post this several times and my answer to it is that comic book buyers like the characters. They want to keep visiting Peter Parker and the rest. The price to visit your old friends is recycled stories. Or you know, they could do new things with old friends. That is possible despite what some people think. But that scares off hardcore fans because new isn't what they want despite what they may say. They want what they were buying all along and things can't change or they will be unhappy. So they continue to financially reward companies for producing the same old old. It's not the price for revisiting old friends, it's the material they are incentivizing by their actions. Your wallet speaks louder than your words and if you keep telling them with your wallet to give you the same old same old despite what your words say, well you get what you deserve. -M
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 20, 2018 6:50:33 GMT -5
I've read you post this several times and my answer to it is that comic book buyers like the characters. They want to keep visiting Peter Parker and the rest. The price to visit your old friends is recycled stories. Or you know, they could do new things with old friends. That is possible despite what some people think. But that scares off hardcore fans because new isn't what they want despite what they may say. They want what they were buying all along and things can't change or they will be unhappy. So they continue to financially reward companies for producing the same old old. It's not the price for revisiting old friends, it's the material they are incentivizing by their actions. Your wallet speaks louder than your words and if you keep telling them with your wallet to give you the same old same old despite what your words say, well you get what you deserve. -M I don't think they could do something new with old friends and keep them the same. That's why they damaged Captain Americas story by bringing Bucky back. It ruined some of great stories that were based on that loss. And besides the movies, What are they really doing with Bucky now ?
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 20, 2018 9:54:50 GMT -5
Or you know, they could do new things with old friends. That is possible despite what some people think. But that scares off hardcore fans because new isn't what they want despite what they may say. They want what they were buying all along and things can't change or they will be unhappy. So they continue to financially reward companies for producing the same old old. It's not the price for revisiting old friends, it's the material they are incentivizing by their actions. Your wallet speaks louder than your words and if you keep telling them with your wallet to give you the same old same old despite what your words say, well you get what you deserve. -M I don't think they could do something new with old friends and keep them the same. That's why they damaged Captain Americas story by bringing Bucky back. It ruined some of great stories that were based on that loss. And besides the movies, What are they really doing with Bucky now ? Wait... really? Which one? Captain America stares out the window and sniffles like an emo teenager? The Red Skull brings Bucky back but he is actually a robot and nobody cares about this story because it was after the amazing Red Skull cosmic cube story? I always thought that Silver Age Captain Sniffles McWhines-a-lot was juuuust about the worst possible direction for Cap, is the SINGLE major reason that the Silver Age Cap is never considered even close to as good as Stan and Jack's concurrent FF and Thor, and I was incredibly happy that Englehart's man-deals-with-the-emotional-reality-of-being-a-living-single conceit replaced it and rendered it irrelevant. I also hate, hate, hate everything about the "Bucky died at the end of WW 2 retcon" and (excluding Englehart's '50s Cap storytline) the incredibly convoluted and confusing attempts to "fix" it. The Spirit of '76 wasn't even a Marvel character! Come on!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 10:13:57 GMT -5
Or you know, they could do new things with old friends. That is possible despite what some people think. But that scares off hardcore fans because new isn't what they want despite what they may say. They want what they were buying all along and things can't change or they will be unhappy. So they continue to financially reward companies for producing the same old old. It's not the price for revisiting old friends, it's the material they are incentivizing by their actions. Your wallet speaks louder than your words and if you keep telling them with your wallet to give you the same old same old despite what your words say, well you get what you deserve. -M I don't think they could do something new with old friends and keep them the same. That's why they damaged Captain Americas story by bringing Bucky back. It ruined some of great stories that were based on that loss. And besides the movies, What are they really doing with Bucky now ? Comic book characters have always changed. If they didn't Superman wouldn't fly but only leap over buildings. If you don't grow and change, you stagnate and die. It's only when they stopped changing and froze the characters in place that they started losing audiences. What was left was only the hardcore neophobe fanboy base that resists change and therein lies the problem. When they started trying to do new again like they had to stave off stagnation, that hardcore neophobe base rebelled leaving the industry in the state it's in now. -M
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Feb 21, 2018 12:01:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies about 52, The Bearded Batman, kirby101, and mrp.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 21, 2018 12:12:04 GMT -5
Or you know, they could do new things with old friends. That is possible despite what some people think. But that scares off hardcore fans because new isn't what they want despite what they may say. They want what they were buying all along and things can't change or they will be unhappy. So they continue to financially reward companies for producing the same old old. It's not the price for revisiting old friends, it's the material they are incentivizing by their actions. Your wallet speaks louder than your words and if you keep telling them with your wallet to give you the same old same old despite what your words say, well you get what you deserve. -M I don't think they could do something new with old friends and keep them the same. That's why they damaged Captain Americas story by bringing Bucky back. It ruined some of great stories that were based on that loss. And besides the movies, What are they really doing with Bucky now How did they "ruin" the stories (leaving aside the issue of whether any of them were great)? The stories are still right there. They haven't taken them out of the books and burned them. Nothing has been ruined.
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