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Nov 18, 2019 23:55:38 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 18, 2019 23:55:38 GMT -5
I'm an old school Star Wars Fan but kind of washed my hands of it with the Special Edition releases, as far as expecting something amazing. It was fun to have the films back in the theaters; but, the tinkering mostly sucked.and messed up the flow of th films. I read some of the early novels, which, apart from Splinter of The Mind's Eye, were just "okay." Read the Zahn stuff when they came out and a bit of that first wave revival; but really felt most were not particularly engaging for what I enjoyed in the films, unlike the Zahn stuff. I kind of stopped reading them then. Have been tempted to try the Mike Stackpole Rogue Squadron ones, though.
The prequels were not particularly good; but, they weren't horrible, either. It was obvious that Phantom Menace was cobbled together from earlier script draft elements, then repeated story beats from the originals and that continued forward, with Sith pretty much just inserting the Obi Wan-Vader battle we had been promised in interviews, since about 1978. There are bits and pieces in the 3 films I like; but, none of the three films rise to great, let alone classic, for my tastes.
I watched the Clone Wars cartoons (the Tarkofsky ones) and enjoyed them for what they were, though it felt kind of repetitive, after a half dozen episodes. Haven't seen the later stuff.
Force Awakens was a decent film; but just felt like a complete remake of Star Wars and kind of aimless. The younger characters seemed underdeveloped to me, compared to the original characters, in that original film. The next one left me kind of bored through chunks of it.
I will agree that Rogue One was a great film and the first really good Star Wars property, for me. It was what I loved about the Archie Goodwin Star Wars comics, with other characters, some real stakes, and a look at things from the sidelines, not the main core of characters. I'd be in for more movies like that. Han Solo just never felt right, at any point and their take on his background was far less interesting than what was used on the novel series, old and later.
I watched the first episode of the Mandalorian and it was decent, though I kept trying to figure out if the one character was based on Lee Marvin, Lewis Arquette, or Harry Morgan; then saw in the credits it was Nick Nolte and saw how cartoonish he looks these days. I don't know what to make of it yet, but, that first episode was more engaging than the two big films were, for me.
Disney is going to do what they want, just as Lucas did. You aren't likely to recapture lightning in a bottle; too many jobs and too much merchandising at stake to really go out on a limb. Lucas had the same problem when he approached Jedi and when he came back to the films.
What does drive me nuts are the endless click bait Youtube things with "How Kathleen Kennedy has destroyed Star Wars," and "The film that killed Star Wars" and such like. These films will go on, just like Celine Dion and that damned song.
I'm happy if they turn up something good, once in a while. Dark Horse had a lot of okay material; but, every once in a while, they had something really good or really fun, like Tag and Bink Are Dead, or Vader's Quest or Crimson Empire. I enjoyed their alternate takes (didn't buy into some of the plot logic in them; but they were fun exercises) and their adaptation of the earlier script draft (though they mixed stuff from different drafts and tweaked it to fit Lucas' revisionist history of them).
Hell, I even liked the Green Rabbit and always wondered why people got bent out of shape about that; but, not the porcupine. Even the Starjammers had an homage to Pogo in their bunch, with Ma'mselle Hepzibah.
The prequels were not particularly good; but, they weren't horrible, either. It was obvious that Phantom Menace was cobbled together from earlier script draft elements, then repeated story beats from the originals and that continued forward, with Sith pretty much just inserting the Obi Wan-Vader battle we had been promised in interviews, since about 1978. There are bits and pieces in the 3 films I like; but, none of the three films rise to great, let alone classic, for my tastes.
I watched the Clone Wars cartoons (the Tarkofsky ones) and enjoyed them for what they were, though it felt kind of repetitive, after a half dozen episodes. Haven't seen the later stuff.
Force Awakens was a decent film; but just felt like a complete remake of Star Wars and kind of aimless. The younger characters seemed underdeveloped to me, compared to the original characters, in that original film. The next one left me kind of bored through chunks of it.
I will agree that Rogue One was a great film and the first really good Star Wars property, for me. It was what I loved about the Archie Goodwin Star Wars comics, with other characters, some real stakes, and a look at things from the sidelines, not the main core of characters. I'd be in for more movies like that. Han Solo just never felt right, at any point and their take on his background was far less interesting than what was used on the novel series, old and later.
I watched the first episode of the Mandalorian and it was decent, though I kept trying to figure out if the one character was based on Lee Marvin, Lewis Arquette, or Harry Morgan; then saw in the credits it was Nick Nolte and saw how cartoonish he looks these days. I don't know what to make of it yet, but, that first episode was more engaging than the two big films were, for me.
Disney is going to do what they want, just as Lucas did. You aren't likely to recapture lightning in a bottle; too many jobs and too much merchandising at stake to really go out on a limb. Lucas had the same problem when he approached Jedi and when he came back to the films.
What does drive me nuts are the endless click bait Youtube things with "How Kathleen Kennedy has destroyed Star Wars," and "The film that killed Star Wars" and such like. These films will go on, just like Celine Dion and that damned song.
I'm happy if they turn up something good, once in a while. Dark Horse had a lot of okay material; but, every once in a while, they had something really good or really fun, like Tag and Bink Are Dead, or Vader's Quest or Crimson Empire. I enjoyed their alternate takes (didn't buy into some of the plot logic in them; but they were fun exercises) and their adaptation of the earlier script draft (though they mixed stuff from different drafts and tweaked it to fit Lucas' revisionist history of them).
Hell, I even liked the Green Rabbit and always wondered why people got bent out of shape about that; but, not the porcupine. Even the Starjammers had an homage to Pogo in their bunch, with Ma'mselle Hepzibah.