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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 9:48:41 GMT -5
It was fairly standard practice to continue the numbering of a series that began at a different company. DC did it with Blackhawk and GI Combat, which they got from Quality Comics, and Charlton did it for the Fawcett material they picked up. Part of it was to continue the Second Class mailing privileges. It cost more to file fore a new one; so, they continued an old one. That's why they often renamed a series, yet kept the original numbering, like Journey into Mystery becoming Thor. So, in theory, could IDW publish a Star Trek #500 when the time arrives? That might be nice even though it'd be "cheating".
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 19, 2020 9:54:32 GMT -5
I'm guessing that the postal mailing requirements have been lifted. You will have # 1's every month.
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Post by MDG on Jan 19, 2020 11:18:19 GMT -5
It was fairly standard practice to continue the numbering of a series that began at a different company. DC did it with Blackhawk and GI Combat, which they got from Quality Comics,... Don't forget Heart Throbs.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 19, 2020 11:24:51 GMT -5
Not to mention that the many Disney titles like Walt Disney's Comics & Stories or Uncle Scrooge have retained their original numbering (dating clear back to the 1940s) regardless of the publisher (Dell/Gold Key/Whitman/Gladstone etc.).
Cei-U! I summon the consistency!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 12:04:31 GMT -5
It's all going to be arbitrary and based on personal preference, but it does make you think about what the approach should be. It certainly would be nice for a Star Trek comic to celebrate its 500th issue, I feel!
I'm glad the reboot/renumber obsession isn't a thing in wrestling. WrestleMania 36 will air in April 2020. If Marvel were running the WWF (I will never refer to it by its current acronym), then WrestleMania would be rebooting/renumbering every few years.
I'm glad to hear Tarzan and various duck characters have kept the numbering despite different publishers.
Personal and subjective it'll always be, it does make you wonder what "rule" there should be, though. British comic Eagle ran from 1950 to 1969 (I'm not sure how many issues). Thirteen years after it ended, it relaunched in 1982 - and ran for 505 issues until 1994. What if the publishers, IPC, had decided to continue the numbering based on the original? Would that have been silly after a 13-year-gap? Or would it have been a nice bit of continuity? Generationally speaking, those picking up the title in 1982 might have included some who were there for the 1950-1969 run.
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Post by String on Jan 19, 2020 13:30:33 GMT -5
When did Starcore and Dr Peter Corbeau first appear? I've been re-reading some of early issues of X-Men by Claremont/Cockrum where Corbeau makes an appearance. A footnote with a piece of his dialogue says something about Incredible Hulk. So did Corbeau appear first in Hulk while Starcore first appears here in X-Men?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 19, 2020 13:58:59 GMT -5
Missed all the sword and sorcery talk, but I have a related question, though more one of opinion than of fact: why didn't Claw or any of the other REH-style sword and sorcery comics (as opposed to Warlord which I assume is more of an ERB-style thing) ever catch on? Was it just that Marvel had actual REH characters and not imitations, or was it the personnel working on the books, or the concepts, or a combination of many things? I would suggest that a lot of the success certain S&S books enjoyed might have to do with sexual tension. “Will they? Won’t they?” Action and adventure are fine, but if readers wonder whether the boy and the girl will end up together, and actually care about it, they will have a deeper emotional investment. Conan (who of course had the added bonus of name recognition) tended to have a succession of girlfriends, but they were actual characters... Zephra, Melissandra, Amytis, Jenna, Red Sonja, Bêlit... Each had a distinct personality, and made for great soap opera material. Travis Morgan and Tara’s star-crossed romance was even more poignant, echoing the great days of John Carter and Dejah Thoris. Arak and Valda also had an intriguing and rocky relationship, and I would argue that their finally getting it on killed the tension between them, and removed a lot of spice from the comic. Now Claw, Stalker, Ironjaw, Swords of Sorcery, Thongor and Stalker were all about plot, with no serious relationship issues. Such titles can work, of course, but they’ll need something more than a monster of the month business plan.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 19, 2020 14:16:38 GMT -5
When did Starcore and Dr Peter Corbeau first appear? I've been re-reading some of early issues of X-Men by Claremont/Cockrum where Corbeau makes an appearance. A footnote with a piece of his dialogue says something about Incredible Hulk. So did Corbeau appear first in Hulk while Starcore first appears here in X-Men? Peter Corbeau and Starcore first appear in I ncredible Hulk #148, which had a cover date of February 1972, about 3.5 years before Claremont/Cockrum took over X-Men.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jan 19, 2020 14:25:36 GMT -5
When did Starcore and Dr Peter Corbeau first appear? I've been re-reading some of early issues of X-Men by Claremont/Cockrum where Corbeau makes an appearance. A footnote with a piece of his dialogue says something about Incredible Hulk. So did Corbeau appear first in Hulk while Starcore first appears here in X-Men? Corbeau and Starcore first appeared in Incredible Hulk #148, which was scripted by Archie Goodwin from a plot by Chris Claremont.
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Post by String on Jan 19, 2020 14:45:05 GMT -5
Oh, okay, thanks, I'll have to check that issue out.
If Claremont plotted that issue, that would explain his jumping over to X-Men cause that's the only title that I've ever really seen in him for the most part. Otherwise, it would kinda seem like Claremont pinched Corbeau from some other writer for his own purposes.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jan 19, 2020 15:05:06 GMT -5
Claremont's first scripting credit for Marvel was a fill-in on Daredevil #102, in which DD mentioned consulting with Peter Corbeau, with no explanation of how he knew him.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 19, 2020 16:43:29 GMT -5
Man, Claremont used them a lot. They were mentioned in the Avengers Sentinels story arc starting in # 102.
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Post by rberman on Jan 19, 2020 16:49:20 GMT -5
The the question becomes: Why did he stop using Peter Corbeau?
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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 19, 2020 17:11:53 GMT -5
Reading X-Men #80 from the late '90s and Peter Corbeau is in a dungeon. That might be the last time I saw him, but Kitty helped him leave.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 19, 2020 19:55:47 GMT -5
Personal and subjective it'll always be, it does make you wonder what "rule" there should be, though. British comic Eagle ran from 1950 to 1969 (I'm not sure how many issues). Thirteen years after it ended, it relaunched in 1982 - and ran for 505 issues until 1994. What if the publishers, IPC, had decided to continue the numbering based on the original? Would that have been silly after a 13-year-gap? The Eagle, during its original run, wasn't numbered like U.S. comics. The numbering was reset to #1 each year, with the volume changing. So, an issue from 1954 might be numbered Volume 5, Issue 32 or something.
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