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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 10, 2017 1:17:32 GMT -5
just because you make friends with an editor doesn't mean you're entitled to enact a 'retconning'.
you have to prove your talent 1st.
being palsies with an editor whom hires you does not prove this.
"There. I said it"
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 10, 2017 1:44:37 GMT -5
Too late for that.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 10, 2017 2:08:41 GMT -5
maybe we can retcon it
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Post by berkley on Jul 10, 2017 20:15:25 GMT -5
It's often debated why Batman lets the Joker live knowing he'll kill again, and the answer is that Batman doesn't kill. But if the Joker were as dangerously unstable as he's supposed to be in the comics and the movies, never mind Batman, most likely one of his fellow super-villains would have killed him long ago.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 10, 2017 21:34:28 GMT -5
It's often debated why Batman lets the Joker live knowing he'll kill again, and the answer is that Batman doesn't kill. But if the Joker were as dangerously unstable as he's supposed to be in the comics and the movies, never mind Batman, most likely one of his fellow super-villains would have killed him long ago. except in his 1st ten or so issues in Detective Comics.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 10, 2017 23:31:53 GMT -5
It's often debated why Batman lets the Joker live knowing he'll kill again, and the answer is that Batman doesn't kill. But if the Joker were as dangerously unstable as he's supposed to be in the comics and the movies, never mind Batman, most likely one of his fellow super-villains would have killed him long ago. In the real world, I suspect Joker would've been executed despite any lawyer's attempt to plead insanity. And indeed, the Golden Age Joker WAS executed in Detective #64, but survived. Thereafter, the character no longer killed (though Donenfeld knows he tried) until the famous O'Neil/Adams story in Batman #251. Cei-U! I summon an order of fried clown!
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 10, 2017 23:52:07 GMT -5
It's often debated why Batman lets the Joker live knowing he'll kill again, and the answer is that Batman doesn't kill. But if the Joker were as dangerously unstable as he's supposed to be in the comics and the movies, never mind Batman, most likely one of his fellow super-villains would have killed him long ago. It's not even an either/or situation for Batman. All he has to do to stop the Joker is chuck him in a pit in the Bat-Cave along with whatever food/books/whatever he wants and there you go. "Sir, must I really prepare caviar every evening for our guest?" "If we don't feed him caviar every evening Alfred, then we're no better than he is." Batman did once attempt to hijack the Joker while he was on his way to prison and take him to a famous brain specialist for a lobotomy, but I think his men got to him first. I think it was in Batman 2. He brought it up again in a Power Records comic in the 1970s but it seems to keep slipping his mind.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 11, 2017 0:15:43 GMT -5
It's often debated why Batman lets the Joker live knowing he'll kill again, and the answer is that Batman doesn't kill. But if the Joker were as dangerously unstable as he's supposed to be in the comics and the movies, never mind Batman, most likely one of his fellow super-villains would have killed him long ago. In the real world, I suspect Joker would've been executed despite any lawyer's attempt to plead insanity. And indeed, the Golden Age Joker WAS executed in Detective #64, but survived. Thereafter, the character no longer killed (though Donenfeld knows he tried) until the famous O'Neil/Adams story in Batman #251. Cei-U! I summon an order of fried clown! by other criminals. LoathesWare! I demand a side order of hypocrisy-broiled sjw clowns
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 11, 2017 2:18:04 GMT -5
I never understood why anyone followed the Joker as a crime boss. He's not a particularly imposing person nor a great fighter. All he is , is crazy.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 11, 2017 6:15:05 GMT -5
I never understood why anyone followed the Joker as a crime boss. Neither did I!
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 11, 2017 7:01:30 GMT -5
I never understood why anyone followed the Joker as a crime boss. He's not a particularly imposing person nor a great fighter. All he is , is crazy. because he never bothers to keep the loot, as he's crazy.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 11, 2017 10:25:39 GMT -5
I never understood why anyone followed the Joker as a crime boss. Neither did I! Yes, that's the reason I wouldn't work for him.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 17, 2017 14:24:51 GMT -5
Showing how powerful some new villain is by having them beat Galactus doesn't work at all any more. It hasn't since the early 90s, in fact.
Marvel writers would be well advised to use their cosmic characters as little as possible, and from as great a distance as possible. Familiarity breeds contempt, and for their concept to work, these entities need to remain awe-inspiring.
There! I said it.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 17, 2017 14:52:46 GMT -5
Showing how powerful some new villain is by having them beat Galactus doesn't work at all any more. It hasn't since the early 90s, in fact. Marvel writers would be well advised to use their cosmic characters as little as possible, and from as great a distance as possible. Familiarity breeds contempt, and for their concept to work, these entities need to remain awe-inspiring. There! I said it. Your post reminded me of this Wolverine comic I bought and read. But I cannot remember the actual outcome of the events. May 1999
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Post by berkley on Jul 17, 2017 20:30:08 GMT -5
Showing how powerful some new villain is by having them beat Galactus doesn't work at all any more. It hasn't since the early 90s, in fact. Marvel writers would be well advised to use their cosmic characters as little as possible, and from as great a distance as possible. Familiarity breeds contempt, and for their concept to work, these entities need to remain awe-inspiring. There! I said it. Or hero, for that matter. I just found out that there was an 80s or 90s Thor story where someone killed a Celestial with an enchanted axe, or something like that. I don't know which character it was or whether it was hero or villain or whatever, but what a misguided idea. I was looking at a recent Dr. Strange comic where Strange was battling Dormammu all the while keeping up an annoying Spider-Man style snappy chatter, calling him "Dormy", etc. Again, not a good idea if you want to make the best possible use of these characters: because the best possible use does, it seems to me, mean maintaining the sense of awe that an entity like Dormammu (or the Celestials, or Eternity, or what have you) should inspire, just as you say.
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