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Post by tarkintino on Nov 1, 2017 17:59:26 GMT -5
And say what you want about the faces (I like 'em fine) but he really was the first artist in a while to dress Mary Jane in then-contemporary fashions. She basically dressed like a 68 year old senator through the '80s, and Todd M. was the first guy to actually think about what a young woman would wear. No, he was not. Far from it, as Romita illustrated Mary Jane (for one example) in contemporary fashions while he was on ASM, as seen in 1967 (L) & 1973 (R), including the subtle changes in hairstyles as one decade moved into another-- ![](https://i.imgur.com/Df5CK9m.jpg?1)
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Post by tarkintino on Nov 1, 2017 18:13:21 GMT -5
Though Roquefort's images make the case nicely for why one shouldn't compare McFarlane with Romita when discussing MJ (I'd almost certainly say "Romita and Ditko" had the latter ever drawn her) I will compare him (and favorably, too) with Ditko, Romita, Kane, Andru, and whoever else you want to add to the list when it comes to Spider-Man and his foes. Three different artists working on the same characters and while I'd maintain that Ditko and Romita are better than McFarlane, he does an admirable job of holding his own against them. I have to disagree. I've never seen a single McFarlane panel or cover that comes within a galaxy's distance of defining Spider-Man like Romita-- ![](https://i.imgur.com/kw3AIiv.jpg) Whether painted, or using more traditional methods, Romita's Spider-Man (and Green Goblin) capture the look and energy of what makes Spidey... Spidey.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 1, 2017 18:52:27 GMT -5
And say what you want about the faces (I like 'em fine) but he really was the first artist in a while to dress Mary Jane in then-contemporary fashions. She basically dressed like a 68 year old senator through the '80s, and Todd M. was the first guy to actually think about what a young woman would wear. No, he was not. Far from it, as Romita illustrated Mary Jane (for one example) in contemporary fashions while he was on ASM, as seen in 1967 (L) & 1973 (R), including the subtle changes in hairstyles as one decade moved into another-- I think 15 years counts as "a while." I would have said "Since Romita Sr." but I'm really poorly read on Spidey from about '78 to '83 or so. I'm not even quite sure who the major "Amazing" Spidey pencillers were between Andru and Romita Jr. I didn't want to sell anyone short without having read their stuff. And, yeah, of course Romita was spectacularly good at reproducing every aspect of the female form, including clothes. My problem was that he was *so* good that everyone until McFarlane basically copied what he did. I like Romita JUNIOR a lot, but I always felt that other artists - even one's I really like (Kane, Mooney, J. Buscema, Andru when he's not drawing superheroes!) - did sub-standard Spidey work because they were trying to ape Romita's God-of-Romance-Comics style. It was nice to see a change from that.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Nov 2, 2017 0:15:43 GMT -5
It just comes down to particular artists not keeping up with fashion trends. I'm a big Sal Buscema fan, but he drew Rick Jones in the late 70's wearing late 50's James Dean-style fashions. John Byrne, who was actually pretty good at this in the 70's and through the 80's, lost touch in a big way once the 90's rolled around. Every tween he drew seemed to be clothed in an amorphous baggy jumpsuit that was supposed to represent the latest hip fashion trend of the time. ![](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/6/64/What_If%3F_Vol_1_12.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20051124042930)
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Post by berkley on Nov 2, 2017 17:03:45 GMT -5
No, he was not. Far from it, as Romita illustrated Mary Jane (for one example) in contemporary fashions while he was on ASM, as seen in 1967 (L) & 1973 (R), including the subtle changes in hairstyles as one decade moved into another-- I think 15 years counts as "a while." I would have said "Since Romita Sr." but I'm really poorly read on Spidey from about '78 to '83 or so. I'm not even quite sure who the major "Amazing" Spidey pencillers were between Andru and Romita Jr. I didn't want to sell anyone short without having read their stuff. And, yeah, of course Romita was spectacularly good at reproducing every aspect of the female form, including clothes. My problem was that he was *so* good that everyone until McFarlane basically copied what he did. I like Romita JUNIOR a lot, but I always felt that other artists - even one's I really like (Kane, Mooney, J. Buscema, Andru when he's not drawing superheroes!) - did sub-standard Spidey work because they were trying to ape Romita's God-of-Romance-Comics style. It was nice to see a change from that. Yes, those pre-Raphaelites drew an attractive Mary Jane too, didn't they. ![](https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fluxuryactivist.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FRed-Hair-Lady-painting.jpg&f=1) (edit:) seriously, I've never had a problem with later Spider-Man artists imitating Romita. It's good to see someone bring their own style, but then how much I like it will depend on the style. I don't mind seeing a good imitation of something I already like, even though it's true that that pretty much automatically makes the artist doing the imitation second rate. But there are worse things!
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 5, 2017 8:49:35 GMT -5
I read that Shax was spending an afternoon moving Comic boxes , so i decided to do the same Saturday night. I rearranged my attic and it is a never ending job. Digital is looking a bit better to me...
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 10, 2017 9:15:56 GMT -5
I look at a cover like this and think that all the wonder of comic books has vanished. Too bad. ![](https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/7/72/Tales_of_the_Unexpected_23.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081226011505)
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Post by MDG on Dec 10, 2017 10:59:08 GMT -5
I look at a cover like this and think that all the wonder of comic books has vanished. Too bad. ![](https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/7/72/Tales_of_the_Unexpected_23.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081226011505) I think part of it is that it's not easy to just pick up a book casually and not feel that you're in the middle of a story you know nothing about and will end up in the same place.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 7, 2018 16:36:44 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about the Batman character. He has been overexposed to the point of boredom.
There I said it.
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Post by Duragizer on Jan 7, 2018 20:13:23 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about the Batman character. He has been overexposed to the point of boredom. There I said it. Though I still appreciate the Bronze Age/Copper Age/early DCAU Batman, I'd be lying if I said I didn't hold similar sentiments. The hardcore fanboys, Nolan, Snyder, and third-rate Frank Miller/Alan Moore-wannabes have done a great job turning the character into someone I don't care to follow in film or in comics.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jan 7, 2018 21:10:06 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about the Batman character. He has been overexposed to the point of boredom. Well, now there's "Hot Takes" and then there's this^. It feels like more of an "Habanero" or "Ghost Pepper Take." Batman. Boring! Good one! Can't wait for Hoosier X to see this. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Hoosier X on Jan 8, 2018 2:15:45 GMT -5
The current Rebirth Batman series has actually been pretty good since the silly War of Jokes and Riddles ended.
There. I said it.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 8, 2018 11:47:39 GMT -5
The current Rebirth Batman series has actually been pretty good since the silly War of Jokes and Riddles ended. There. I said it. I read the last three issues and the Annual. They were definitely very good.
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Post by Søren on Jan 8, 2018 12:05:42 GMT -5
![](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5phcOrjChnM/Trw47TV5axI/AAAAAAAADQ4/-jL503rP9_M/s1600/992049-batgirl__3_019_super.jpg) How wheelchairs are drawn comics annoy me (limited what have seen of it at least). Its like the artists have never actually seen one before. Always seem oversized and extremely impractical looking and like they don't fit the person. I mean, you never get through a doorway with those lol The chair is meant to be the least focus, not the main thing you see imo. There I said it ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 8, 2018 12:20:48 GMT -5
Probably start with the outline of the chair, to get the body position correct, causing the chair to be on a larger scale. At the same time, it depends on their source material; older wheel chairs were bigger than more modern ones.
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