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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 18:25:33 GMT -5
So I just saw that Lonestar is charging $21.50 for a VF copy of the first issue of the 3 issue adaptation of the Labyrinth movie featuring David Bowie (issues 2 and 3 are out of stock). Is this a massive surge because of speculation after Bowie's death or has this been going for a premium for a while? I've always seen it (and passed it over) in dollar and quarter bins for years. Kind of blows my mind if it's shot up that much is 3 days since Bowie passed.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 19:10:03 GMT -5
So I just saw that Lonestar is charging $21.50 for a VF copy of the first issue of the 3 issue adaptation of the Labyrinth movie featuring David Bowie (issues 2 and 3 are out of stock). Is this a massive surge because of speculation after Bowie's death or has this been going for a premium for a while? I've always seen it (and passed it over) in dollar and quarter bins for years. Kind of blows my mind if it's shot up that much is 3 days since Bowie passed. -M Not that I know, but my guess is it is since Bowie's death. I hate people.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 1:00:08 GMT -5
Just saw that a CGC 9.8 copy of All Star Comics #58, the first issue of the 70s JSA revival and the first appearance of Power Girl just sold for $1525.00 in their August auction *it garnered 39 bids from 22 separate bidders, so not a case of just 2 guys getting into a pissing contest to get it and driving the price up to unreasonable levels just to win). When I looked on their site to see what copies were selling for all, the copies for sale were consignment copies, meaning the seller, not Lonestar sets the price. The least expensive copy available was $40 and that was for a Fair/Good 1.5 copy. I didn't realize this book had exploded that high in damnd for it to be commanding that kind of money now. Glad I've had the issue for a while now, as it's not a good enough story to pay that kind of money for, even for a first appearance.
-M
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Aug 18, 2016 18:14:13 GMT -5
This brings up a subject that I have been wondering about. I just don't understand why slabbed copies are worth something like 5 or 10 times what an unslabbed copy is worth.
I saw a slabbed copy of Western Kid #2 for sale in a comic shop for close to $100. This is the 70s reprint. It has nice Romita art but what is the point if you can't read it?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 18, 2016 18:31:01 GMT -5
This brings up a subject that I have been wondering about. I just don't understand why slabbed copies are worth something like 5 or 10 times what an unslabbed copy is worth. I saw a slabbed copy of Western Kid #2 for sale in a comic shop for close to $100. This is the 70s reprint. It has nice Romita art but what is the point if you can't read it? There lies the most conflictual subject of discussion in modern comicdom! The short answer is that a slabbed comic is worth more because some people are ready to pay more for it. Why that is, however, is something that puzzles me greatly. Sure, we expect a slabbed comic to be in the same state as it was when it was entombed in plastic, unlike a comic marked "NM" that might have been taken out of its mylar sleeve to wipe spaghetti sauce from a kitchen counter. However, I usually trust comic book sellers not to act in such a dishonest way (for fear of losing their customers, if no other reason). Furthermore, the evaluation performed by the slabbing industry can't be verified without breaking the slab, which naturally involves paying more to have it re-slabbed. In the final analysis, I see the slabbing industry less as a necessary service than as a self-fulfilling prophecy. However, it seems to work... So props to them for creating a new business and making money out of it.
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Post by draculafan1 on Aug 19, 2016 9:53:33 GMT -5
It reminds me of a joke I once heard: "This teapot is one of the last two ever made and I want to start the bidding at"...Oops it falls out of his hands " who will start the bidding for this broken teapot that was once part of a set of two"! That's the way I see slabbing it is another taken of the market never to be read again. As for the companies they are capitalising on the collector by issuing its own set of rules and the laugh is they are paying for it to happen. Think of this you were attending a con back in the day and you met Jack Kirby, "Mr Kirby I've enjoyed your talent for such a long time could you please sign this Amazing fantasy 15". That is now your most treasured comic and a great story to go with it as well, however the slabbing company would now give it a purple label as none of there staff witnessed the signing. The comic is now seen as either a restored or maybe a page missing comic even though it was near mint at the time and was still until you got it slabbed. No I'm all for raw comics and I've 5 to go for a full set of Amazing Spider-man .
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Post by brutalis on Aug 19, 2016 11:55:36 GMT -5
It reminds me of a joke I once heard: "This teapot is one of the last two ever made and I want to start the bidding at"...Oops it falls out of his hands " who will start the bidding for this broken teapot that was once part of a set of two"! That's the way I see slabbing it is another taken of the market never to be read again. As for the companies they are capitalising on the collector by issuing its own set of rules and the laugh is they are paying for it to happen. Think of this you were attending a con back in the day and you met Jack Kirby, "Mr Kirby I've enjoyed your talent for such a long time could you please sign this Amazing fantasy 15". That is now your most treasured comic and a great story to go with it as well, however the slabbing company would now give it a purple label as none of there staff witnessed the signing. The comic is now seen as either a restored or maybe a page missing comic even though it was near mint at the time and was still until you got it slabbed. No I'm all for raw comics and I've 5 to go for a full set of Amazing Spider-man . Yes, thank you for signing my comic of your art Mr. Kirby and know that i am such a fan of you that i am sealing it so that i may never open it again to enjoy your art. Talk about yer dumb and dumber. Comics is for reading kids! Open those bagged and boarded and slabbed in sealed plastic goodness and let those boys breathe!!! Gimme a worn well read showing it was loved comic book over a pristine locked away from sight comic any day.
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Post by draculafan1 on Aug 19, 2016 13:06:54 GMT -5
I was also angered over an episode of the History detectives it featured a black man who had bought a few coverless comic books featuring one of the first examples of Black romance. During the programme they eventually found the aforementioned comic, the punchline was it was slabbed! It struck me that his was the more valuable as it could be read and enjoyed in person, maybe I'm just nitpicking but it did strike me as sad.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 19, 2016 13:57:04 GMT -5
Seriously, you do understand any slabbed book can be opened and read. Nothing prevents that. it would take seconds to do so
I'd only slab books myself if I intend to sell the item over the internet. If I bought a slabbed book for my collection, I 'd remove the slab. It's only there to make the transaction go smoother, in my opinion. I have no idea why people moan over this issue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 14:23:19 GMT -5
We've had several threads degenerate and get locked over the slabbing issue and lost members because of those discussions. It's a divisive issue here and elsewhere in the industry/fandom. Since this site prides itself on civil discourse about comics, I'm asking all my fellow members to just leave it at an "agree to disagree" without belittling the opinions or preferences of those on either side please.
-M
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Aug 19, 2016 15:51:36 GMT -5
I didn't mean to start anything. I didn't know it was still such a hot button issue.
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Post by draculafan1 on Aug 19, 2016 15:56:54 GMT -5
I agree let's leave slabbing alone, after all I came here to avoid bad feeling and this seemed to be one of the better sites on comics.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Aug 19, 2016 16:20:56 GMT -5
On the subject of Western reprints that fetch high prices, Rawhide Kid #140 in the 35-cent price variant is highly coveted by certain collectors. Far fewer of them have surfaced than other variants of the same vintage and as a result, demand far outstrips the meager supply. As more collectors become aware of these rarities and become intrigued by them, the prices we'll see for such books in the future may give us pause.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 19, 2016 16:45:34 GMT -5
On the subject of Western reprints that fetch high prices, Rawhide Kid #140 in the 35-cent price variant is highly coveted by certain collectors. Far fewer of them have surfaced than other variants of the same vintage and as a result, demand far outstrips the meager supply. As more collectors become aware of these rarities and become intrigued by them, the prices we'll see for such books in the future may give us pause. Nice cover! In the same vein, Conan annual #1 is all reprint but it has one awesome cover by Barry Windsor-Smith that would be worth the high price all by itself!
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Aug 19, 2016 17:03:46 GMT -5
I remember that Conan Annual cover. Someone should add it to the Original/New Covers for Reprints thread.
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