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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 22, 2016 15:23:56 GMT -5
Don't think about how Captain America's shield works. Down that path leads madness. I agree that the way it's used is illogical - given it's supposed vibration absorbing properties, it should never be able to bounce/rebound off multiple objects, but I can accept that as hand-waving comic book science, whereas I can't accept things which are physically impossible for the characters (which is related to why seeing the likes of Neal Adams cheat on anatomy drives me crazy) I guess the bottom line is that it has to be somehow internally consistent, allowing for the comic-book science, and Cap Sam severing his own wing every time he throws a shield (that he has never shown any ability to throw accurately!) just fails the logic test. I don't see that as any less logical than throwing a round metal shield, one handed, and having it come back to you in the first place. This ain't DC; Marvel has never really had any truck with "science" or "physics" or "logic." I think Marvel's overwrought emotional realism is important, but since they've never made any attempt at internal consistency before, it would be even stranger if they started now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 17:25:35 GMT -5
I'll admit it's a fine line and everyone's tolerance sets the line in a different place. For me, things that are anatomically impossible just drag me out of the story and irritate me, whereas comic book physics is less so provided it's reasonably internally consistent. Not sure the shield even qualifies under that, but it works in context.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 22, 2016 18:03:23 GMT -5
I'm kind of with you on Neal Adams, btw. I really like Kirby because he's obviously not even remotely close to actual human anatomy ever - He's a cartoonist and mood is more important than realism, and that's fine. But guys like Adams (and Andru, Grell, Sekowsky) who are right sometimes and wrong sometimes totally bug me.
Side note: I kind of like Leifeld's stuff, under the Kirby clause above. He just seems to always be having fun drawing poorly!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 21:57:40 GMT -5
Did you have these problems with John Walker and James Rhodes as well? No. My main complaint is the frequency. Twice in 6 yrs?? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 2:19:56 GMT -5
Side note: I kind of like Leifeld's stuff, under the Kirby clause above. He just seems to always be having fun drawing poorly! I get where you're coming from - I'm really not a fan of Kirby's art (I may have mentioned this once or twice before!), but I understand why the people who like it like it. By the same token, Liefeld's art has a sort of huge energy about it on the page... if he wasn't just so lazy about getting the anatomy right* - he obviously can do it, he just doesn't, and it's not like Kirby where his anatomy is sort-of right (proportions are OK and bodies basically put together correctly, but bulging everywhere with square muscles), Liefeld just makes incredibly stupid mistakes and doesn't correct them (his dislocated-back pony-women being a "classic" example) (*and perspective. And viewing angles. And any sense of where characters are in relation to each other and how hig they are and how far forwards and backwards they are in a scene) |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 23, 2016 9:33:05 GMT -5
It's seems as if Marvel and DC have a sort of weird synergy between Batman and Captain America going on the last ten years or so. They "died" and came back at virtually the same time and "gave up the mantle" and are now returning at roughly the same time. Are the Cap and Bat editor's in some sort of competition that we're unaware of? I smell a conspiracy!
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 23, 2016 9:52:43 GMT -5
Side note: I kind of like Leifeld's stuff, under the Kirby clause above. He just seems to always be having fun drawing poorly! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you feeling okay ? |
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