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Post by Phil Maurice on Oct 21, 2017 16:00:02 GMT -5
You could heed the words of the noted liberal hippie carpenter from Nazareth, which were: "You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well." Short version: "Kill 'em with kindness." That's the sort of behavior that baffles the oppressors and causes history to look upon them with a jaundiced eye. Very effective. I'm also a subscriber to the old adage that "living well is the best revenge."
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Post by Jesse on Oct 21, 2017 16:03:55 GMT -5
“An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind” ...there I said it!
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Post by Phil Maurice on Oct 21, 2017 16:33:28 GMT -5
This seems apt. From The Mikado by Gilbert and Sullivan (edited for length):
My object all sublime
I shall achieve in time—
To let the punishment fit the crime,
And make each prisoner pent
Unwillingly represent
A source of innocent merriment,
The advertising quack who wearies
With tales of countless cures,
His teeth, I’ve enacted,
Shall all be extracted
By terrified amateurs.
The billiard-sharp whom anyone catches
His doom’s extremely hard—
He’s made to dwell
In a dungeon cell
On a spot that’s always barred.
And there he plays extravagant matches
In fitless finger-stalls,
On a cloth untrue
With a twisted cue
And elliptical billiard balls.
My object all sublime
I shall achieve in time—
To let the punishment fit the crime—
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Oct 21, 2017 23:45:32 GMT -5
Yes it potentially does. But all things must end eventually. Ever conflict has and will. If you let people walk over you though without seeking justice what have you gained in the process? An ass whipping? A bitter reminder that someone wronged you and got away with it and you had the potential to balance the scales, but decided not to? Not sure what that does for you moving forward. You could heed the words of the noted liberal hippie carpenter from Nazareth, which were: "You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well." Visiting evil upon another person for his actions toward you will bring no positive result and will likely lead to an escalation of activity. Sometimes, even though someone did you wrong, you have to be the bigger man or else you are just as guilty as they. Hmmm...I don't think I can wrap my head around the logic of that quote. To me it seems to just tell you to bend over and take it. Maybe even with a smile. I get what you said yourself though.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Oct 23, 2017 8:14:45 GMT -5
The real big man (or woman) is not the one who takes revenge, but who finds the strength to forgive... or at least to decide that the never-ending chain of retaliation ends with oneself. This does not mean we must meekly accept the oppressor’s wrong or the proud man’s contumely. It is entirely possible to stand on one’s two feet and defend one’s rights without resorting to revenge. That is Spider-man’s way as opposed to the Punisher’s, and I am convinced that it is what separates civilization from the law of the jungle. The catharsis of revenge is certainly satisfactory, in a very primal way... but when we become adults, both as individuals and as societies, we are supposed to replace instant gratification with self-discipline, and favour decisions that will benefit the greater number in the long run. Hence a justice system to replace lynch mobs, and a police force to replace vigilantes. You've given me something to think about I admit.
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Post by Confessor on Oct 24, 2017 4:32:34 GMT -5
Not that I've seen any of the recent films with Wonder Woman in, mind, but Gal Godot just seems to me to have entirely the wrong body shape for Wonder Woman. She's supposed to be an Amazon warrior and, as such, should be big, tall, curvaceous and look like she could actually do you some damage in a fight. There, I said it!
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Oct 24, 2017 6:58:36 GMT -5
The ideal height for a man is between 6'0" and 6'3". There I said it.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 24, 2017 8:08:02 GMT -5
I tried to be 6' ...
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Post by Cei-U! on Oct 24, 2017 8:42:48 GMT -5
Not that I've seen any of the recent films with Wonder Woman in, mind, but Gal Godot just seems to me to have entirely the wrong body shape for Wonder Woman. She's supposed to be an Amazon warrior and, as such, should be big, tall, curvaceous and look like she could actually do you some damage in a fight. There, I said it! You may well change your mind once you see the movie. She was amazing. Besides, as envisioned by original artist Harry Peter, Diana was anything but "curvaceous." Not to mention that according to Greek myth, the Amazons should all be missing a breast (they cut off the one on whichever side their dominant hand was to prevent it from interfering with their archery skills in battle). Cei-U! I summon the martial mastectomy!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 8:51:51 GMT -5
Not that I've seen any of the recent films with Wonder Woman in, mind, but Gal Godot just seems to me to have entirely the wrong body shape for Wonder Woman. She's supposed to be an Amazon warrior and, as such, should be big, tall, curvaceous and look like she could actually do you some damage in a fight. There, I said it! Not to mention that according to Greek myth, the Amazons should all be missing a breast (they cut off the one on whichever side their dominant hand was to prevent it from interfering with their archery skills in battle). Cei-U! I summon the martial mastectomy! I've never heard of this at all ... Cutting off one Breast to help them in their archery skill ... Ouch! Learned something new and shocking at the same time!
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Oct 24, 2017 9:35:03 GMT -5
Entertaining any type of thought or series of thoughts within your mind no matter how distasteful, unethical, unlawful or immoral is not wrong. As long as you keep your delusions to yourself and don't act upon them within the realm of reality and risk jeopardizing someone (that has shown you no ill-will) else's personal well being.
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Post by brutalis on Oct 24, 2017 10:05:52 GMT -5
The worst part of vacation's are that you need a vacation to recover from the vacation you just had. That and prepping work for the week you are away and then nobody covering your work while you are gone and then your 1st day back everyone expecting you to automatically be back in the flow and caught up with everything that occurred during your week of vacation. Oh the endless cycle..... After a week in the happiest place on Earth called Disneyland it is back to the worst place on Earth called work Is it too soon to plan for the next vacation?!? Thankfully the winter holidays are coming soon and the work schedule will be full of mandatory days off to conserve costs in the workplace:D
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 24, 2017 10:22:13 GMT -5
Yeah, that last day of Vacation is the worst...
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 24, 2017 11:00:03 GMT -5
Entertaining any type of thought or series of thoughts within your mind no matter how distasteful, unethical, unlawful or immoral is not wrong. As long as you keep your delusions to yourself and don't act upon them within the realm of reality and risk jeopardizing someone (that has shown you no ill-will) else's personal well being. That's a BIG problem I see among certain groups right now, and especially (alas) among groups with whom I share a lot of fundamental ideals. They seem to believe that a thought police is a good thing. That it's not enough to agree that certain ideas would be disastrous for society, or that they are fundamentally wrong, but that even entertaining them is wrong and should not be tolerated. The concept of goodthink (as in the novel 1984) is one that scares the hell out of me. I think that some ideas must be fought tooth and nail, but if they must be fought they must first be freely expressed. Otherwise we'll never prove that they're wrong; we'll just silence those who hold them. And who's to say, in a system that accepts such behaviour, that we won't find ourselves silenced for holding our own ideas some day?
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 24, 2017 13:04:20 GMT -5
There is coming a time when free speech will be gone.
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