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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 13:24:35 GMT -5
Sometimes I find I am suddenly discovering little chunks of genius and beauty in Ditko's art. I mean, I appreciate the overall appearance of his art from the get-go, but then I see his Sandman, and it occurs to me, again, just how brilliant he is. His villains look like villains. They do not look like people posed as villains. They look other-wordly, which is what i, personally, want and love.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 13:27:07 GMT -5
But before you roll your eyes at my Last post, please be gentle because I am new to his art. I may see his work differently the more I get used to it.
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Post by earl on Jan 1, 2016 15:37:12 GMT -5
Steve Ditko's few issues with The Hulk are also fairly key with the character as they created The Leader in that run. ![](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--Em7gpGdbs8/TgLFz-yW0SI/AAAAAAAAAsU/9kSjJl82WnI/s1600/Tales_to_Astonish_63-Steve_Ditko.jpg)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 16:10:16 GMT -5
Steve Ditko's few issues with The Hulk are also fairly key with the character as they created The Leader in that run. ![](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--Em7gpGdbs8/TgLFz-yW0SI/AAAAAAAAAsU/9kSjJl82WnI/s1600/Tales_to_Astonish_63-Steve_Ditko.jpg) I know that golden age artists like Ditko and Everett drew odd creatures so well because that is what they were used to drawing. I haven't pinned something super telling about Ditko's art just yet because I'm not familiar enough with it (and I know his Spidey stuff is different from some of his other works), but I can usually pick up Everett as the artist on something because of the eyes. Eyes were very telling, imo, for Everett's art. EDIT: Fingers. For Ditko, for me, so far, it's the way he draws fingers.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 1, 2016 16:18:01 GMT -5
My problem with Ditko is that his style of drawing looked very dated to me once the silver age was over. Kirby and other artists from the 60's made the transition and adapted their art , but Ditkos stuff looked very out of place in the Marvel work that he did in the 80's.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 16:20:19 GMT -5
My problem with Ditko is that his style of drawing looked very dated to me once the silver age was over. Kirby and other artists from the 60's made the transition and adapted their art , but Ditkos stuff looked very out of place in the Marvel work that he did in the 80's. I did not even know he did work for Marvel in the 80s. What did he do? Do you have any scans?
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 1, 2016 16:26:07 GMT -5
He did an annuals for the Avengers and drew Rom. It was sad to see how fall he'd fallen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 16:35:51 GMT -5
He did an annuals for the Avengers and drew Rom. It was sad to see how fall he'd fallen. Oh, boy. I will have to go have a look-see.
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Post by Pharozonk on Jan 1, 2016 16:40:39 GMT -5
My problem with Ditko is that his style of drawing looked very dated to me once the silver age was over. Kirby and other artists from the 60's made the transition and adapted their art , but Ditkos stuff looked very out of place in the Marvel work that he did in the 80's. I did not even know he did work for Marvel in the 80s. What did he do? Do you have any scans? He even worked on some of the 80's Legion issues you bought I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 16:43:27 GMT -5
I did not even know he did work for Marvel in the 80s. What did he do? Do you have any scans? He even worked on some of the 80's Legion issues you bought I think. hahahaha, but haven't obviously read yet. D'oh! I'm a complete ding-a-ling sometimes. *sigh*
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 1, 2016 17:01:07 GMT -5
He did an annuals for the Avengers and drew Rom. It was sad to see how fall he'd fallen. And Chuck Norris Karate Comandos, Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, Young Indiana Jones, the first appearance of Squirrel Girl a bunch of weird short-lived assignments. He still had bad feelings toward Stan/'60s Marvel refused to do Spider-man or Doctor Strange. He was doing some quite good corporate work into the '70s.. I dig his Shade, Speedball, and (especially!) Captain Universe runs, but by the '80s I think he just stopped giving a #$%^ and stopped trying. And, honestly, I think Ditko the inker is even stronger than Ditko the penciller. So I never really dug any of the stuff that he didn't ink himself, even his '60s runs on the Hulk and Iron Man. Conversely, though, his independent work remained as strong as ever on the pencil side. The TEXT is basically objectivist lecturing and is bordering on unreadable. But his pencilling (even today) is quite good on the material he cares about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 17:07:35 GMT -5
Marvel Ditko circa 1988... ![](http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/604955.jpg) -M
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 17:12:15 GMT -5
Marvel Ditko circa 1988... ![](http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/604955.jpg) -M See??? It looks like he was kind of trying to go with the art of the times. I mean, I don't really know what I'm talking about, but I think I have probably seen a lot worse from 1988.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 17:15:28 GMT -5
My problem with Ditko is that his style of drawing looked very dated to me once the silver age was over. Kirby and other artists from the 60's made the transition and adapted their art , but Ditkos stuff looked very out of place in the Marvel work that he did in the 80's. I did not even know he did work for Marvel in the 80s. What did he do? Do you have any scans? Here is Ditko in 1984 from Avengers Annual #13...inked by John Bryne! ![](http://i.imgur.com/TCcOZyZ.jpg) ![](http://i.imgur.com/ZBvfiOQ.jpg) ![](http://i.imgur.com/KBK7rSn.jpg) ![](http://i.imgur.com/vDwNqHo.jpg) ![](http://i.imgur.com/uje3QIY.jpg) ![](http://i.imgur.com/JaDpH0G.jpg) ![](http://i.imgur.com/V1Oyw6p.jpg)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 17:19:37 GMT -5
^ Byrne inking Ditko sounds like a horrible clash of styles to me, but it's really pretty enjoyable for the most part. Byrne supplies a lot more detail to the figures than we're used to seeing in a Ditko story, but he keeps the classic (and often bordering on bizarre) Ditko poses. Unless you HATE Ditko, the results are a lot of fun, especially as a one-off annual story.
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