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Post by coke & comics on Apr 30, 2016 14:54:53 GMT -5
I loved the soundtrack, especially the opening Bob Dylan theme of "Times Are A Changin'", it just fits so perfectly Feel the opposite. I like the songs in the soundtrack, but find the soundtrack emblemic of the problems of the film. Dylan, Hendrix, Joplin, Simon & Garfunkel... sure these are my favorite songs too. They're everybody's favorite songs. I could have come up with that soundtrack. It's pedestrian. It's uninspired. Like the rest of the film and unlike the comic. |
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Post by berkley on May 7, 2016 23:02:57 GMT -5
I continue to feel that superheroes don't work that well when played by actors on the big screen. For me, the suspension of disbelief needed to take the story even a little bit seriously (so the dramatic moments are appropriately dramatic) doesn't come easily when I see real people dressed in strange costumes tossing cars around, etc - as opposed to more or less stylised drawings on the comic-book page.
So I'm always a little surprised when I see another superhero movie breaking box office records. As a fan, I like watching them myself, in spite of the reservations expressed above. But it surprises me that so many people who aren't superhero comics fans enjoy these movies so much.
For this reason, I'd like to see a serious attempt at an animated superhero movie. The Incredibles was close, but it was a comedy and the look was a little too generic-Pixar for my taste. But I think it showed what might be possible if someone would give it a shot. And I'd love to see the film-makers try translating the style of a particular artist from the page to the screen. I don't know if it would work, but I think the experiment is worth making. Imagine an animated Agents of SHIELD based on Steranko's style, or a Kirby/Coletta Thor.
However, I may have to rethink all of this, because I thought the recent Daredevil tv series worked really well. But maybe this success was partly due to the nature of the character - DD doesn't really do anything much more unbelievable that the things you see in a good martial arts film. Possibly this is partly whhy the Iron Man films have been widely considered the best movies - Stark's body-armour is the kind of thing you might see in a science fiction movie.
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Post by Ozymandias on May 8, 2016 13:01:56 GMT -5
As a fan, I like watching them myself, in spite of the reservations expressed above. But it surprises me that so many people who aren't superhero comics fans enjoy these movies so much. I'd say The Matrix, played an important role, in the suspension of disbelief pandemic, outside the superhero fan community. |
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Post by sunofdarkchild on May 8, 2016 13:04:11 GMT -5
The Dark Knight is the only superhero film to make me go 'I just watched a great moment in cinematic history.' And it did it several times. The opening bank heist, the Hong Kong kidnapping, the chase scene, and the interrogation scene are wonders of acting/cinematography.
Iron Man isn't on that level, but before it came out I was convinced that the Iron Man suit could not work in live action, so seeing it rendered so well blew my mind.
The Incredibles is easily the most human superhero movie to date. No one scene stands out, but the movie as a whole is pretty much perfect.
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Post by batlaw on May 8, 2016 13:44:24 GMT -5
The Incredibles is easily the most human superhero movie to date. No one scene stands out, but the movie as a whole is pretty much perfect. For me the plane crash scene is the stand out in incredibles. So exceptional. So incredibly powerful and human. Just gripping imo. Especially impactful as a parent. The theme of mr incredibles longing for "the good old days" and simply for "more" is particular touching and relatable and personally impactful to me. It's further explored more intensely and brilliantly in Unbreakable where it really hits me hard personally. That sense of something missing. That mysterious lifelong inner need and urge going unfulfilled. That "something" being something good and positive. As for TDK, I think it's a really great movie. But it didn't have an "impact" on me personally, and I don't regard it (or the other Nolan bat films) as highly as most. I praise TDK for "elevating" comic book movies in the eyes of average moviegoers. I that's its greatest accomplishment more so than anything within the movie itself. |
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Post by Batflunkie on May 8, 2016 13:51:54 GMT -5
The Incredibles is easily the most human superhero movie to date. No one scene stands out, but the movie as a whole is pretty much perfect. It's kind of obvious how big of a homage it is of the Fantastic Four, need I bring up the parallels between the Underminer and the Mole Man? There's also some inspiration drawn from Captain America I think too, namely Frozone/Falcon, Syndrome/the kid who idolized Cap but later turned into a total super villain during Englehart's run |
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 15, 2016 12:53:37 GMT -5
I continue to feel that superheroes don't work that well when played by actors on the big screen. For me, the suspension of disbelief needed to take the story even a little bit seriously (so the dramatic moments are appropriately dramatic) doesn't come easily when I see real people dressed in strange costumes tossing cars around, etc - as opposed to more or less stylised drawings on the comic-book page. So I'm always a little surprised when I see another superhero movie breaking box office records. As a fan, I like watching them myself, in spite of the reservations expressed above. But it surprises me that so many people who aren't superhero comics fans enjoy these movies so much. For this reason, I'd like to see a serious attempt at an animated superhero movie. The Incredibles was close, but it was a comedy and the look was a little too generic-Pixar for my taste. But I think it showed what might be possible if someone would give it a shot. And I'd love to see the film-makers try translating the style of a particular artist from the page to the screen. I don't know if it would work, but I think the experiment is worth making. Imagine an animated Agents of SHIELD based on Steranko's style, or a Kirby/Coletta Thor. However, I may have to rethink all of this, because I thought the recent Daredevil tv series worked really well. But maybe this success was partly due to the nature of the character - DD doesn't really do anything much more unbelievable that the things you see in a good martial arts film. Possibly this is partly whhy the Iron Man films have been widely considered the best movies - Stark's body-armour is the kind of thing you might see in a science fiction movie. I feel the same way. Some films work better than others, but it's mainly a visual thing for me. Let's face it, as good as the Cap movies have been, the costume still looks ridiculous. It's almost impossible to make a costume like Cap's look good in live action, mainly because of the basic design of the mask. Batman has suffered a similar problem. I'm a big fan of the Daredevil series as well, but the costume in season 1 didn't look great to me. They did a much better job refining the design in season 2. I think most fans would agree that the best animated adaptations blow even the best live action films out of the water. The Batman of the DCAU is arguably superior to even the best representations in the comics. I also thought that Avengers Assemble was very well done and wish that Marvel would have stuck with that version of their animated universe. |
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Post by Mormel on May 16, 2016 1:35:00 GMT -5
^Robert, do you mean 'Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes'? That's the one that usually gets the praise. I've seen both EMH and Assemble and I can enjoy either just about equally.
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 16, 2016 2:16:21 GMT -5
^Robert, do you mean 'Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes'? That's the one that usually gets the praise. I've seen both EMH and Assemble and I can enjoy either just about equally. Oh, yes. I get those mixed up all the time. Earth's Mightiest Heroes is probably the best Marvel animated series to date and I think rivaled Justice League to some degree. |
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