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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 6, 2017 8:05:37 GMT -5
"What if the Crisis on Infinite Earths Never Happened?" We'd actually spend more time discussing comics and artists... We still discuss those things , but at the time, this was a major change in the way DC wrote their entire line. It was a great event and mini series, but these things always become undone by later editorial regimes. I guess the final straw was when they brought Barry Allen back. That's when it really never happened. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 6, 2017 8:17:27 GMT -5
"What if the Crisis on Infinite Earths Never Happened?" We'd actually spend more time discussing comics and artists... We still discuss those things , but at the time, this was a major change in the way DC wrote their entire line. It was a great event and mini series, but these things always become undone by later editorial regimes. I guess the final straw was when they brought Barry Allen back. That's when it really never happened. I tried to read it during the 90ies, and I couldn't go through it in one go, because it was just soooo boring IMHO. I understood it all, or at least enough to follow and understand the story, but it's cerainly never was a story that stands on its own. I can only imagine nostalgia would allow you to cast a positive eye on it. On the other hand, the whole Mark Waid Flash run, that was a great well-crafted story. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 6, 2017 8:26:34 GMT -5
'What if the Crisis on Infinite Earths Never Happened?'
Perez would be respected LESS.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 6, 2017 8:26:36 GMT -5
The Waid Flash run didn't involve Barry Allen.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 6, 2017 8:36:48 GMT -5
i don't care, i just adore perez, lol, and am answering the question, after being torn in 2 by the byrne/perez poll. lmao
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 6, 2017 9:00:00 GMT -5
The Waid Flash run didn't involve Barry Allen. Kinda confirms my point, all that I care about is good stories. Continuity only matters to me if the book has one sole writer from start to finish. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 6, 2017 9:31:47 GMT -5
The Waid Flash run didn't involve Barry Allen. Kinda confirms my point, all that I care about is good stories. Continuity only matters to me if the book has one sole writer from start to finish.that is an interesting point. and why the Len/Bernie and Alan/Steve/John Swamp Things were the only ones that mattered to me. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 6, 2017 15:54:04 GMT -5
So as far as I can tell, Marvel just did a series merging it's multiple earths together. (Although without rebooting any of it's long running characters.) It is a little sad that I am too old and jaded to care. Technically only a few aspects of the Ultimate Universe were merged with the 616. Basically Miles Morales and his supporting cast. The rest of the Multiverse still exists as far as I'm aware. Huh. There's new Squadron Supreme & Nighthawk books (which I haven't read) so I was thinking some of either Squadron Supreme or Sinister got merged into Marvel Earth (616) as well. And, hey, since we're here - Convergence was a partial Crisis on the Infinite Earths, right? I just got the trade from the library but I don't think I'm going to finish it. |
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Post by Jesse on Aug 7, 2017 12:04:35 GMT -5
Huh. There's new Squadron Supreme & Nighthawk books (which I haven't read) so I was thinking some of either Squadron Supreme or Sinister got merged into Marvel Earth (616) as well. And, hey, since we're here - Convergence was a partial Crisis on the Infinite Earths, right? I just got the trade from the library but I don't think I'm going to finish it. Somewhat, it actually brings back characters from various versions of Earth including pre-Crisis Superman and Lois Lane who are married as well as the Parallax version of Hal Jordan who I think is still out there in the main Universe somewhere. Puts them all on DC's version of Battleworld and forces them to fight for their existence. Some of it was interesting just to revisit a few of these characters. The pre-Crisis versions of Superman and Lois Lane were featured in their own series called "Superman: Lois & Clark" that took place in the current main Universe and explains what they had been doing during the new 52. The new 52 version of Superman dies in "Superman: The Final Days of Superman" as does Lois Lane within the first couple issues of Superwoman. Their souls are merged with that of the pre-Crisis versions of Superman and Lois Lane during the "Superman Reborn" story arc and history is once again changed. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 7, 2017 16:07:59 GMT -5
Huh. Ok.
Man, I think all of that universe merging crap makes for terrible stories. I appreciate it, Jesse. I am so glad I don't have to read it.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 8, 2017 8:35:05 GMT -5
That was pre-Flashpoint Lois and Clark not pre- Crisis Lois and Clark but yeah... Convergence never really felt like it tapped into the actual feel of the old characters and eras it was returning, IMO, except in a couple of rare cases - the Secret Wars tie-ins over at Marvel around the same time did a much better job, I felt.
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Post by zaku on Aug 9, 2017 4:20:53 GMT -5
"What if the Crisis on Infinite Earths Never Happened?" We'd actually spend more time discussing comics and artists... We'd discuss about the last Superman story where Lois Lane is trying to uncover the real identity of Clark Kent. Meanwhile, she is battling with Lana Lang over the love of Superman, who is a jerk to both. The B plot would be about Lex Luthor who want to destroy the world because he's suffering from early balding. The appendix story is about Superman who causes Steve Lombard another concussion  |
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Post by String on Aug 9, 2017 12:16:21 GMT -5
Wasn't there some complaints by other creators that Wolfman wasn't targeting any of his own character creations for death in CoiE? I remember some rumor or something from awhile back about that's why he later killed Kole in NTT as some form of payment debt in this regard left over from the grumbling about CoiE.
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