Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Feb 16, 2018 2:05:34 GMT -5
I have less of a problem with retelling origins per se, and more of a problem when writers add more and more stuff to them every time. I guess this is more of a problem with Marvel characters because, with the never ending Crises at DC, the origin story can actually change fundamentally. But with Spider-Man's origin, for example, there are subtle changes made each time it's retold and sometimes whole extended scenes being inserted between events as shown in Amazing Fantasy #15. That really annoys me, mostly because it's never done well.
But overall, I think modern retellings are perhaps useful to new readers. Although, most of them would probably just Google a character's origin.
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Post by String on Feb 16, 2018 11:31:07 GMT -5
This is how it's done and this is all you ever really need:   |
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 16, 2018 11:44:00 GMT -5
This is how it's done and this is all you ever really need: I like the idea, but the Kents? They're creepy. |
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Post by MDG on Feb 16, 2018 12:11:45 GMT -5
This is how it's done and this is all you ever really need: I think this might be a little too minimal. It expects the reader to fill in a lot from what they know. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 16, 2018 12:14:27 GMT -5
It relies on you knowing the original already. Spider-man: homecoming did the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 13:38:04 GMT -5
The origin of hash browns:
Originally, the full name was "hashed brown potatoes" (or "hashed browned potatoes"), of which the first known mention is by American food author Maria Parloa (1843–1909) in 1888. from Wikipedia.
Sorry. I guess you were discussing something else. Suddenly I feel hungry.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 16, 2018 13:46:18 GMT -5
The origin of hash browns:Originally, the full name was "hashed brown potatoes" (or "hashed browned potatoes"), of which the first known mention is by American food author Maria Parloa (1843–1909) in 1888. from Wikipedia. Sorry. I guess you were discussing something else. Suddenly I feel hungry. And now it's time for Geoff Johns to write six-issue mini-series' for Hashed Reds, Hashed Blues, Hashed Greens, Hashed Yellows and Hashed Blacks. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 16, 2018 14:05:19 GMT -5
The origin of hash browns:Originally, the full name was "hashed brown potatoes" (or "hashed browned potatoes"), of which the first known mention is by American food author Maria Parloa (1843–1909) in 1888. from Wikipedia. Sorry. I guess you were discussing something else. Suddenly I feel hungry. And now it's time for Geoff Johns to write six-issue mini-series' for Hashed Reds, Hashed Blues, Hashed Greens, Hashed Yellows and Hashed Blacks. Ohhhh! And M James goes down.... |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Feb 16, 2018 19:49:57 GMT -5
And now it's time for Geoff Johns to write six-issue mini-series' for Hashed Reds, Hashed Blues, Hashed Greens, Hashed Yellows and Hashed Blacks. A peek behind the scenes, as Johns' editor fact-checks his work:  |
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Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Feb 16, 2018 20:14:05 GMT -5
The origin of hash browns:Originally, the full name was "hashed brown potatoes" (or "hashed browned potatoes"), of which the first known mention is by American food author Maria Parloa (1843–1909) in 1888. from Wikipedia. Sorry. I guess you were discussing something else. Suddenly I feel hungry. And now it's time for Geoff Johns to write six-issue mini-series' for Hashed Reds, Hashed Blues, Hashed Greens, Hashed Yellows and Hashed Blacks. How come Green Lantern never helped the Hashed Blacks, huh? Answer me that, Mr. Green Lantern? |
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Post by String on Feb 17, 2018 11:59:33 GMT -5
The origin of hash browns:Originally, the full name was "hashed brown potatoes" (or "hashed browned potatoes"), of which the first known mention is by American food author Maria Parloa (1843–1909) in 1888. from Wikipedia. Sorry. I guess you were discussing something else. Suddenly I feel hungry. And now it's time for Geoff Johns to write six-issue mini-series' for Hashed Reds, Hashed Blues, Hashed Greens, Hashed Yellows and Hashed Blacks. Which will also serve as the lead-in to the 12 issue maxi-series Crisis in Infinite Diners, featuring the rise of the dreaded Anti-Hash! |
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 17, 2018 12:29:49 GMT -5
This is how it's done and this is all you ever really need: I think this might be a little too minimal. It expects the reader to fill in a lot from what they know. I made the mistake of saying the same thing back in the CBR days (I called it "smug") and got promptly gang-pummeled by the Morrison cultists. Good times. Cei-U! I summon the anti-nostalgia! |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 17, 2018 14:54:49 GMT -5
Ok, yeah, I really think you need another page to show that this story is about a baby. Where is the baby? You need the baby!
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Post by String on Feb 17, 2018 17:59:03 GMT -5
I think this might be a little too minimal. It expects the reader to fill in a lot from what they know. I made the mistake of saying the same thing back in the CBR days (I called it "smug") and got promptly gang-pummeled by the Morrison cultists. Good times. Cei-U! I summon the anti-nostalgia! Well, I am far from being a Morrison purist but wouldn't you agree that, over all the decades of exposure through radio, animation, TV, film, and all sorts of media, that Superman's origin is THE most established and generally known comic book origin in the world? All Morrison does here is succinctly sum up the very basis of his origin in eight words and then quickly moves onto to his story. Thus anyone with even a passing knowledge of his origin should be able to glean the meaning behind this page. And if not, well then, there's always Google right? |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 17, 2018 19:32:08 GMT -5
I made the mistake of saying the same thing back in the CBR days (I called it "smug") and got promptly gang-pummeled by the Morrison cultists. Good times. Cei-U! I summon the anti-nostalgia! Well, I am far from being a Morrison purist but wouldn't you agree that, over all the decades of exposure through radio, animation, TV, film, and all sorts of media, that Superman's origin is THE most established and generally known comic book origin in the world? All Morrison does here is succinctly sum up the very basis of his origin in eight words and then quickly moves onto to his story. Thus anyone with even a passing knowledge of his origin should be able to glean the meaning behind this page. And if not, well then, there's always Google right? For the vast majority of the people reading that book it was probably more than sufficient. I suspect that maybe more than one-page, four panels, eight words, would be needed to get the point across to someone who is unfamiliar with Superman. But probably not a lot more. |
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