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Post by Confessor on Feb 14, 2019 11:15:01 GMT -5
Bobby was always girl-crazy... Classic over-compensation. GORGEOUS images, but I'm not sure she was perceived within her own superhero universe as being exceptionally gorgeous. Come to think of it, how old was she supposed to be in those stories?? Yep!... yet another entry in this thread that has totally misunderstood the question being asked by the OP. As to her age, I'm not a Marvel family fan or expert at all, but she's Billy Batson's twin sister, right? Wikipedia tells me that Billy Batson is between 12 and 14-years-old, so that means that Billy's sister is the same age. So, when she's Mary Marvel, she's a prepubescent girl inside a fully grown woman's body. So, yeah...if characters in the Captain Marvel comics do think of her as sexually attractive, that's kinda f***ed up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 16:20:31 GMT -5
GORGEOUS images, but I'm not sure she was perceived within her own superhero universe as being exceptionally gorgeous. Come to think of it, how old was she supposed to be in those stories?? Yep!... yet another entry in this thread that has totally misunderstood the question being asked by the OP. As to her age, I'm not a Marvel family fan or expert at all, but she's Billy Batson's twin sister, right? Wikipedia tells me that Billy Batson is between 12 and 14-years-old, so that means that Billy's sister is the same age. So, when she's Mary Marvel, she's a prepubescent girl inside a fully grown woman's body. So, yeah...if characters in the Captain Marvel comics do think of her as sexually attractive, that's kinda f***ed up. I was re-thinking for the past hour or so ... and you are right. No questions about it. Mary Bromfield here Mary Batson here too ... That's is why this is so confusing at times and mishandled too. These panels clearly shows that.
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 14, 2019 16:54:36 GMT -5
With the hairstyles of the '40s and '50s it's hard to tell a teenager from an adult in pictures sometimes I find. I always wondered with Mary Marvel if they tried to make her look like the young adult Judy Garland of this era sometimes.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 14, 2019 17:02:39 GMT -5
Bobby was always girl-crazy... Classic over-compensation. GORGEOUS images, but I'm not sure she was perceived within her own superhero universe as being exceptionally gorgeous. Come to think of it, how old was she supposed to be in those stories?? Yep!... yet another entry in this thread that has totally misunderstood the question being asked by the OP. As to her age, I'm not a Marvel family fan or expert at all, but she's Billy Batson's twin sister, right? Wikipedia tells me that Billy Batson is between 12 and 14-years-old, so that means that Billy's sister is the same age. So, when she's Mary Marvel, she's a prepubescent girl inside a fully grown woman's body. So, yeah...if characters in the Captain Marvel comics do think of her as sexually attractive, that's kinda f***ed up. This is the first time that I heard that Mary Marvel becomes older in the switch. She looks like the same age.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 14, 2019 17:42:33 GMT -5
Classic over-compensation. Yep!... yet another entry in this thread that has totally misunderstood the question being asked by the OP. As to her age, I'm not a Marvel family fan or expert at all, but she's Billy Batson's twin sister, right? Wikipedia tells me that Billy Batson is between 12 and 14-years-old, so that means that Billy's sister is the same age. So, when she's Mary Marvel, she's a prepubescent girl inside a fully grown woman's body. So, yeah...if characters in the Captain Marvel comics do think of her as sexually attractive, that's kinda f***ed up. This is the first time that I heard that Mary Marvel becomes older in the switch. She looks like the same age. Oh, maybe you're right. I just amused that, since Billy Batson becomes the adult Captain Marvel, that Mary Batson also became an adult...or at least became a bit older...18 or something. If you're right, and Mary Marvel is in fact 12-14yo, then yeah, that's even more messed up if other characters are finding her sexually attractive. I have no idea if they do or not.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 14, 2019 17:45:32 GMT -5
I dont recall any story in the golden age where someone was attracted to MM. But as you pointed out, many posters are having a problem understanding the premise of this thread. Maybe you should delete the entire thread.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 14, 2019 18:52:11 GMT -5
Traditionally, Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel Jr stay the same age as Mary Batson and Freddy Freeman. Only Billy Batson turns into an adult hero. At Fawcett, it was pretty consistent. At DC, it was a mixed bag. Billy, Freddy and Mary were often portrayed as older teens, with the Marvel Family counterpart appearing pretty much as them in costume, except Billy, who turned into the decidedly older Captain Marvel. Mary definitely appeared older than Freddy, in solo stories, at DC. The Power of Shazam series kept her younger, and Jef Smith and the Billy Batson and the Power of Shazam series had Mary Marvel as appearing as a small child. Bob Oskner tended to make Mary look like she was anywhere from 17 to 25, Kurt Schaffenberger was a little more consistent, though, again, more of a later teen ager. About a third of the Shazam comics of the 70s were Fawcett reprints, which had Mary looking like a younger teen, no older than 14(ish). The covers used the more modern DC models, which could be at odds with the interiors). Don Newton tended to draw an older Mary; but, kept Junior younger and physically smaller. Same with Alan Weiss. Fawcett Mary Marvel... DC Marvel Family... Oskner Mary... Don Newton Marvel Family... Alan Weiss... (house ad for The Amazing World of DC Comics) Jerry Ordway... Peter Krause Mary and Junior... Jeff Smith Mary The Final Crisis era Mary is quite another thing, and symptomatic what I thought was wrong with the DC regime, of the time.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 14, 2019 19:01:23 GMT -5
This is the only story where I think she was much older.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 8:59:28 GMT -5
Has Starfire from the New Teen Titans been mentioned? Back in the 80s, she was found attractive by several DC characters if I remember correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 12:24:13 GMT -5
Has Starfire from the New Teen Titans been mentioned? Back in the 80s, she was found attractive by several DC characters if I remember correctly. No, you were the 1st one to mentioned her ... Yes, she was found attractive by Kid Flash, Speedy, and a few more characters too namely Robin ... I considered ... Starfire somewhat Bi-Sexual because she like Donna too ...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 17:12:11 GMT -5
Captain America by Joe SimonJoe made it quite real and gave him a nice assuming look that I like so well here.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 15, 2019 21:10:00 GMT -5
Captain America by Joe SimonJoe made it quite real and gave him a nice assuming look that I like so well here. Yeah, but did the other characters in those old comics find Captain America to be particularly attractive or desirable, Mecha? This is not a thread for you to post whoever you think looks attractive, as drawn by whatever artist. Actually, it's irrelevant who is drawing the character, because it's not about how they look to you or any other comic book reader anyway. This thread is about posting examples of characters that are regarded as being particularly attractive by the other characters in their respective books. Think less about art and artists, and think more about how other characters interact with these attractive characters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 21:27:27 GMT -5
Well, when the Captain America movie came out ... and Steve Rogers was developed into Captain America ... Nurses and Peggy Carter played by Hayley Atwell was looking him over and admiring him and that alone ... makes him attractive and I consider Joe Simon here one of my favorite artists that drew him, Confessor and I'm surprised you don't see it. The other characters ... part makes no relevance here and I don't think that's a part of this discussion and that's open a whole can of worms here. That part needs more information to chew on and I don't quite understand why you brought it up and to my attention here. I'm not criticizing you here ... but, I need more information to understand why. That's the best answer you can get from me.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 15, 2019 21:40:36 GMT -5
Well, when the Captain America movie came out ... and Steve Rogers was developed into Captain America ... Nurses and Peggy Carter played by Hayley Atwell was looking him over and admiring him and that alone Well, that's the movie, rather than the comic, but yeah, OK. That's at least a relevant example of what this thread's asking for. ... makes him attractive and I consider Joe Simon here one of my favorite artists that drew him, Confessor and I'm surprised you don't see it. Yes, I'm sure Joe Simon drew him marvellously, but that's not what this thread is about. It's not about which artist drew whatever character attractively. It's about which characters are considered to be particularly attractive by the other characters in the comic. I can't make it anymore plain than that. The other characters ... part makes no relevance here and I don't think that's a part of this discussion... No, no...the other characters part is the whole deal. It really is! Go back and read Icctrombone's very first post, at the start of this thread, again. That is definitely what he's asking for.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 23:44:18 GMT -5
Confessor ... on the last quote, I understand where you are going for ... my apologies.
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