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Post by sabongero on Jul 26, 2018 13:40:38 GMT -5
I've been reading a lot of Image comic books lately. And to be honest, I have a really tough time even being inspired to write a one sentence review on some of them. The early to mid 90's from Image Publishing had a lot of underwhelming team books that lasted only a couple of issues and even after reading it, and putting the comic book down, I cannot even recall what stood out from the team, characters, or even the story.
I am sure a lot of Image Publishing teams will be mentioned here. But there must also be some DC and Marvel short-lived horrible teams that some of you have come across? Right?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 13:51:03 GMT -5
GLAGreat Lakes Avengers  I was laughing so hard when I saw this team -- most ridiculous, frighteningly terrible, and inept team that I've ever seen in Marvel History.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 26, 2018 13:53:11 GMT -5
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Post by sabongero on Jul 26, 2018 14:28:34 GMT -5
Holy S..tballs Batman! Okay, The Blob, Mr. Fantastic, Spider-Man, some guy from the New Warriors, Dinosaurman, and WTF is on the left?GLAGreat Lakes Avengers I was laughing so hard when I saw this team -- most ridiculous, frighteningly terrible, and inept team that I've ever seen in Marvel History.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 26, 2018 14:45:10 GMT -5
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 26, 2018 14:49:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 15:45:37 GMT -5
Holy S..tballs Batman! Okay, The Blob, Mr. Fantastic, Spider-Man, some guy from the New Warriors, Dinosaurman, and WTF is on the left?GLAGreat Lakes Avengers I was laughing so hard when I saw this team -- most ridiculous, frighteningly terrible, and inept team that I've ever seen in Marvel History. Everyone’s favorite super team from Milwaukee, the Great Lakes Avengers are a lovely bunch. They’re keen to help others and desperate to be taken seriously as superheroes. The only tiny drawback is that they’re utterly incompetent. Whether it’s destroying an aquarium while fighting Deadpool or failing miserably in their mission to apprehend the Thunderbolts, the ambition of the team far exceeds their meager talent. Created by John Byrne in West Coast Avengers #46, the team was initially trained by Hawkeye, who quickly found that they weren’t up to traditional Avengers standard. Mr Immortal, Doorman, Big Bertha and Flat Man have stuck together ever since, with members such as Grasshopper, Squirrel Girl and Gravity passing through their ranks along the way. Membership for Forbush Man surely can’t be far away. Got this information from CBR and I don't know who that and I've simply cared less. Nobody at my LCS wasn't buying at the time that this group debuted. It was that pathetic. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 26, 2018 16:32:46 GMT -5
The GLA are deliberately terrible. The Dell Superheroes, the Mighty Crusaders and the Outsiders (that version) were just bad due to poor writing and mediocre art.
The Champions often get a nod, though there were a few good stories there. It was a pretty odd mix of characters.
Continuity Comics' Revengers, Urth 4, and Hybrids were all pretty awful, on par with the Image teams.
The Detroit-era JLA took a lot of flak.
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Post by sabongero on Jul 27, 2018 7:23:12 GMT -5
The GLA are deliberately terrible. The Dell Superheroes, the Mighty Crusaders and the Outsiders (that version) were just bad due to poor writing and mediocre art. The Champions often get a nod, though there were a few good stories there. It was a pretty odd mix of characters. Continuity Comics' Revengers, Urth 4, and Hybrids were all pretty awful, on par with the Image teams. The Detroit-era JLA took a lot of flak.I didn't even know this team existed. I just googled it, and perhaps it's the list of D-List superheroes strung together. Perhaps if you had a really good writer write interesting stories utilizing the characters might have some readers care. The problem is that you need readers to "want" to care about the characters first, and it's hard for readers to "care" about D-List characters as opposed to A-List characters. Like in politics it is all about recognition first that generates interest. Then it can be given a chance.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 8:02:09 GMT -5
sabongero -- Justice League Detroit ^^^ was the worst team in JLA history. Despite having Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Firestorm, Elongated Man, and Zatanna on that team. I did not care for Gypsy, Vibe, Steel, and Dale Gunn made the roster and what makes a joke is when Zatanna starts bringing him milk and cookies and seducing him wearing a seductive nightgown and discussing things is got to be one of the lowest part of the equation. Even Vixen got into the act and that makes this group too much for me to handle.  Here's proof ...
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 27, 2018 8:19:42 GMT -5
The Detroit-era Justice League only existed because A) Gerry Conway had run out of plot ideas for the real JLA, B) the book's then-editor lacked the cojones to tell him "Time to move on then, Ger, and let someone else have a crack at it" like Julius Schwartz would've done, and C) they were hoping fans would take to the new team like they'd taken to the new X-Men and new Teen Titans. A + B + C = one of the biggest miscalculations--and thus biggest bombs--in DC history.
Cei-U!
I summon the colossal clusterf*** of a comic!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 9:35:09 GMT -5
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Post by sabongero on Jul 27, 2018 10:40:03 GMT -5
sabongero -- Justice League Detroit ^^^ was the worst team in JLA history. Despite having Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Firestorm, Elongated Man, and Zatanna on that team. I did not care for Gypsy, Vibe, Steel, and Dale Gunn made the roster and what makes a joke is when Zatanna starts bringing him milk and cookies and seducing him wearing a seductive nightgown and discussing things is got to be one of the lowest part of the equation. Even Vixen got into the act and that makes this group too much for me to handle. Here's proof ... What Justice League title, issue number, and date is this from? I can't believe Zatanna was used in such a demeaning manner. I mean her costumer is already revealing. But to even do this on her evening attire and haha to degrade the character like this is a basic fail in my opinion. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 27, 2018 11:33:55 GMT -5
Gerry Conway, in the 80s (especially the late 80s) was not the Gerry Conway of the 70s. He was pretty burnt out, as a writer and he was largely given carte blanche, on his titles. He had some really good stuff, during his tenure; but, not by that point. It was bad enough that the team was, more or less, killed off, to make way for the Giffen/DeMatteis/Maguire group, which was a massive hit.
He went back to Marvel and handled the secondary Spider-Man books (Spectacular and Web), which drew some flak from critics, on some of his stories, due to some lazy writing. Some of it was nitpicky, like geography. He ended up moving on to television, with the occasional comic book piece (like the Topps Kibryverse books and a couple of things at DC and Marvel).
At the time, the story hook was there was an emergency and Aquaman summoned the League; but, the big guns didn't make it. So, he basically fired anyone not willing to make a full-time commitment and started with a young team and under-represented characters. I have never heard whether that was precipitated by the Superman and Batman offices or whether Conway initiated that. He was, as Cei-U points out, trying to emulate Marvel's X-Men and the Wolfman & Perez Teen Titans (which was DC's number 1 comic). Problem was, nobody cared about these characters. Steel was a new version of a fairly mediocre knock-off (created by Conway and swiping from Captain America and the Six Million Dollar Man). That was about all he had going for him. Gypsy's powers were hardly spectacular, though her relationship with J'onn was one of the better points. Vibe was pure stereotype and people hated him, with a passion. Zatanna was poorly handled throughout Conway's run, though there was a brief, interesting moment, where there is an attraction between her and Barry Allen. Conway really just did't make them an interesting group, though it has its fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 12:37:19 GMT -5
sabongero -- Justice League Detroit ^^^ was the worst team in JLA history. Despite having Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Firestorm, Elongated Man, and Zatanna on that team. I did not care for Gypsy, Vibe, Steel, and Dale Gunn made the roster and what makes a joke is when Zatanna starts bringing him milk and cookies and seducing him wearing a seductive nightgown and discussing things is got to be one of the lowest part of the equation. Even Vixen got into the act and that makes this group too much for me to handle. Here's proof ... What Justice League title, issue number, and date is this from? I can't believe Zatanna was used in such a demeaning manner. I mean her costumer is already revealing. But to even do this on her evening attire and haha to degrade the character like this is a basic fail in my opinion.  Justice League of America Annual Vol 1 #2 -- October 1984. This issue contains the story of the romance of Zatanna and Dale Gunn. |
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