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Post by shaxper on Jul 20, 2020 18:42:43 GMT -5
I'm currently dealing with a run-killer that I frankly don't understand. Life With Archie #8 sells for hundreds of dollars because...the cover references Elvis Presley.  I just don't get it. |
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Post by The Captain on Jul 20, 2020 18:44:01 GMT -5
Defenders #10, the big Thor/Hulk slugfest, is significantly overpriced compared with the rest of the series. High grade copies are about $50, twice the previous issue and five times the following one. Avengers #87 has the origin of Black Panther in it, and a high grade copy goes for at least $50, usually closer to $75 or more. The issues prior and after can each be had for about $12 in high grades. Star Wars #68 has Boba Fett's origin in it, and it usually goes for $75 or more. The previous and following issues each can be had for about $5. Amazing Spider-Man #229 and #230 (Spidey vs Juggernaut) are $25 books. Issue #228 is a $5 book, and #231 can be had for as little as $4. All of the above are based on recent eBay auctions/Buy It Now books. Of the five books you mentioned I had 4 of them and sold the Spider-man's years ago. I'm glad I don't have to buy my Avengers collection in 2020. I spent: $50 on a VF copy of Defenders #10 in 2012 (it was the last issue I needed to complete the run) $20 on a F+/VF- copy of Star Wars #68 in 2017 (same as Defenders #10, last issue to complete the run) $9 on a F+/VF- copy of Avengers #87 in 2013 $1 apiece on the Amazing Spider-Man books back in the 2002/2003 time frame. Still have all five in my collection. |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 20, 2020 18:47:20 GMT -5
I'd also add that I truly love Len Wein's run on Incredible Hulk, and it bugs me a bit that neither #180 nor #181 are in my run.
Oh, I own #180 (don't see the value in paying for a #181), but I keep it in a safer area with my key books, so I don't have the fun of flipping through it in the short box.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 20, 2020 18:55:12 GMT -5
A few more that have given me trouble over the years:
Avengers #144 -- lent it to a friend two years back, and she never returned it. Now look at the price!
Action Comics #598 -- Seriously, who cares about Checkmate anyway?
Superman #22 -- I just wanted a Post-Crisis run of Superman. Not really concerned with Superman executing rogue Kryptonians and then going berserk as a result.
Silver Surfer #4 -- Fans now rationalize its value as being due to the striking cover and memorable team-up, but the original rationale for the inflated price was the "low" print number which, by today's standards, would have been a triumph of a sales figure.
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Post by The Captain on Jul 20, 2020 18:56:08 GMT -5
I'd also add that I truly love Len Wein's run on Incredible Hulk, and it bugs me a bit that neither #180 nor #181 are in my run. Oh, I own #180 (don't see the value in paying for a #181), but I keep it in a safer area with my key books, so I don't have the fun of flipping through it in the short box. I don't have original copies of either of those or #182, but I have the facsimile editions of 180 and 182 and the Marvel Milestone edition of 181, so I have the complete story. I used to keep my key books in a fire safe, but when I got my custom comic cabinets back in 2013/2014, I just put them back into the collection. Every drawer has a lock on it, and my daughters know that they touch the good stuff upon penalty of severe disappointment. I have considered putting all of the key books in one drawer so that I could grab them easily if there were a fire. There are probably at least 50-100 books that I would want to be able to throw into a short box and take out with me, either due to sentimental value or sheer monetary considerations. |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 20, 2020 18:58:42 GMT -5
Every drawer has a lock on it, and my daughters know that they touch the good stuff upon penalty of severe disappointment. My kind of parenting! I keep all of mine in one box, really just so that I can flip through my other boxes without having to worry about accidentally damaging something important. I can flip through my books with care-free ease, yank some out, and clumsily drop others back in, knowing the truly important stuff is somewhere else. |
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Post by berkley on Jul 20, 2020 19:38:17 GMT -5
I'm currently dealing with a run-killer that I frankly don't understand. Life With Archie #8 sells for hundreds of dollars because...the cover references Elvis Presley. I just don't get it. I thought maybe it was a very early pop culture reference to Elvis from outside the strictly pop music world but GCD says it was a 1961 issue, so it can't be that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 19:41:30 GMT -5
I'm currently dealing with a run-killer that I frankly don't understand. Life With Archie #8 sells for hundreds of dollars because...the cover references Elvis Presley. I just don't get it. I thought maybe it was a very early pop culture reference to Elvis from outside the strictly pop music world but GCD says it was a 1961 issue, so it can't be that. Collectible prices are a product of demand. A mention of Elvis makes the book desirable for a number of people who do not collect comics per se, but do collect Elvis memorabilia, so more people wan the book. Greater demand, greater prices. It may not be more desirable to comic collectors because of the Elvis mention, but it creates demand for the book outside the normal market of comic collectors so sellers can realize a higher price on it. Sucks ofr the comic collector, great for the seller. -M |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 20, 2020 20:32:43 GMT -5
So I don’t know if it was desired back in 2009 but Archie 271 was a mere $8 in Mint condition according to Overstreet. Now I know they tend to be behind on the current demands so perhaps that was not the case back in 2009. I am also not sure if the newer Overstreet notates things like “innuendo” cover but my 2009 edition sure didn’t.
Same goes for Life of Archie referencing Elvis. No mention in Overstreet although the first 11 issues of that series seem pricey. Maybe less so today than then I don’t really know.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 20, 2020 22:26:10 GMT -5
I searched for both covers and I don't see what's dirty about cover #271. You innocent young thing. I just looked them up... I guess I'm innocent too, I don't get it either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 22:45:34 GMT -5
Of course the most famous of the "suggestive" covers that is a run killer is probably Rifleman #10, which just had a 3.0 GCG copy go for $265 in the July Prime auction at Lonestar while most of the issues around it are under $20 in that grade (and rarely break $50 except for the highest grade copies.
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Post by donaldg on Jul 20, 2020 22:51:35 GMT -5
So I don’t know if it was desired back in 2009 but Archie 271 was a mere $8 in Mint condition according to Overstreet. Now I know they tend to be behind on the current demands so perhaps that was not the case back in 2009. I am also not sure if the newer Overstreet notates things like “innuendo” cover but my 2009 edition sure didn’t. Same goes for Life of Archie referencing Elvis. No mention in Overstreet although the first 11 issues of that series seem pricey. Maybe less so today than then I don’t really know. The 2019-2020 Overstreet places #271 at $10.00 in NM- condition. That's, of course, unslabbed. On Lone Star's website, I can only find 2 slabbed copies available as consignment items at VG+ and VG-. They actually want $125.00 for the VG- and $99.00 for the VG+. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 22:58:25 GMT -5
So I don’t know if it was desired back in 2009 but Archie 271 was a mere $8 in Mint condition according to Overstreet. Now I know they tend to be behind on the current demands so perhaps that was not the case back in 2009. I am also not sure if the newer Overstreet notates things like “innuendo” cover but my 2009 edition sure didn’t. Same goes for Life of Archie referencing Elvis. No mention in Overstreet although the first 11 issues of that series seem pricey. Maybe less so today than then I don’t really know. The 2019-2020 Overstreet places #271 at $10.00 in NM- condition. That's, of course, unslabbed. On Lone Star's website, I can only find 2 slabbed copies available as consignment items at VG+ and VG-. They actually want $125.00 for the VG- and $99.00 for the VG+. Has Oversteet started taking actual online sales into consideration yet or is it still the same cadre of brick & mortar retailers as consultants who only consider sales in their shops from a year or more ago to determine the "going" rate for the guide? And do they still set the minimum "value" of a book at the price of a current new comic release rather than reflecting stuff that is dollar and quarter bin fare? I'm asking, as I don't know anymore because I haven't looked at an Overstreet in nearly 10 years because their info was out of date and irrelevant before it went to print at that point. -M |
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 21, 2020 0:33:24 GMT -5
I'm currently dealing with a run-killer that I frankly don't understand. Life With Archie #8 sells for hundreds of dollars because...the cover references Elvis Presley. I just don't get it. There are a couple other, earlier Archie covers with Elvis references, and they also command a premium over the issues around them. I'm surprised this one is going for that much, though, that seems excessive, and I certainly didn't pay close to that when I got my copy a few years ago. I do see that one sold cheaply on ebay recently, but it was also listed as being in the 1.0-1.5 range, so I'm not sure that sale is indicative of anything other than being low grade. There are several romance comics from the 60's that reference Elvis or The Beatles on the cover, and they all go for more or less of a premium over the issues around them. |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 21, 2020 5:55:19 GMT -5
There are several romance comics from the 60's that reference Elvis or The Beatles on the cover, and they all go for more or less of a premium over the issues around them. I would understand it if Elvis appeared on the cover, but this seems excessive. There is so much Elvis memorabilia out there; does the rapid Elvis collector really need a comic that just mentions him? Supply and demand. Yeah, I know. |
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