I didn’t much like the first Suicide Squad movie. It had its moments. Mostly involving Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn.
But the second one rocks. Yeah. I sensed a Guardians of the Galaxy vibe.
But I liked it quite a bit better than Guardians of the Galaxy.
It’s one of the better DC movies lately. Maybe the best.
Yeah, the first one was seriously one of the worst comic book movies to come out in the last decade but this one was surprisingly fun. I loved King Shark!
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Who is the character who's slinging/flipping the colored chips? Even reading over the character/actor list on IMDB, nothing rings a bell for me about this character.
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"I got a ticket to the moon but I'd rather see the sunrise in your eyes" - Jeff Lynne
Who is the character who's slinging/flipping the colored chips? Even reading over the character/actor list on IMDB, nothing rings a bell for me about this character.
that's Polka Dot Man
(tho they seriously upped his powers for the movie - in the comics his polka dots had gimmic reactions mainly (think of Green Arrow's trick arrows but as polka dots))
^I love how despondent David Dastmalchian looks in that picture. I think Double Toasted nailed it when they said he looks like the kid whose mom put him in the discount costume on Halloween, when really he wanted to go as Batman. XD
I know Polka Dot had some real issues going on, but when Rat Catcher says to him "I thought you were the crazy one" after Peacemaker gives the "kill men, women, and children" line, and Polka says "I am", it's almost like he feels he's being upstaged in insanity by all these kooky people on his team and he doesn't like it. There's another moment like that later on in the movie that I can't precisely recall, but where Polka comes off as the straight man too.
Take my hand/lead me to some peaceful land/that I cannot find inside my head
I think they hoped to make him their own Punisher, since Vigilante failed at that
Err, probably I should ask this in the comics forum, but didn't Vigilante have a good run? 50 issues or something?
Depends on how you view that. DC intended to make him a similar character, which worked in the short run, but Marvel has gotten nearly 40 years of the Punisher as a major title, not just a mid-level book, for a few years. DC got about 5 years out of it, if you include the introduction, in New Teen Titans. Even in the short run, Vigilante was not a big seller and certainly not a an favorite; definitely nothing at the level of the Punisher, during that same period (or since). Actually, Deathstroke probably should have gotten his own title sooner, based on the popularity of the character. It managed 60 issues of a series that I never found particularly engaging. I gave it a go, at the start, but it really lacked the spark of the New Teen Titan stories. Problem was, they tried to hard to make him a babyface, instead of a "tweener." Even so, it was a better fit for that style of a character and had a far more interesting hook.
I tried Vigilante, briefly, based on the intro in Titans, which was really good (well, the annual, with more of Perez's generic hired guns with gimmicks, was a bit iffy, due to that factor); but, they had the wrong people on the series to really try to capture that same audience. Hated the issues with the Peacemaker, which were the only other ones I picked up , after the initial launch.
DC has never really been able to match the success of the Punisher, though that character was a cult thing, until the 80s. It was purely a rip-off of the Executioner novels; which gave it a certain mileage, as an antagonist, reluctant partner, in the 70s; then, Miller and others tapped into the right elements for an 80s audience and Marvel has been able to continue that, ever since, even to the point of it being a rather chilling icon for police officers who seem to think they are at war with the public they are supposed to serve (leading to Marvel even having the character address that as a twisted mindset). Vigilante worked in the short run, as a revenge story; but then it petered out. Marv Wolfman was not the writer for that type of character and Paul Kupperberg was not much of an improvement. John Ostrander could have done something with that, as he showed with Suicide Squad, and, especially, Deadshot.
Wild Dog was a similar attempt, from Max Allen Collins, who had the pedigree, but never had a really great artist on it and I, personally, never felt it was that compelling a character (Ms Tree was better at it). It looked and sounded like a lower-rent vigilante character, like the cheap Executioner knock-offs, in the Men's Adventure pulps (Death Merchant, Penetrator, etc) of low budget film attempts, like The Exterminator (Robert Ginty as a Vietnam vet, with a flame thrower).
This was rather too crude and violent for me, but it was still kind of fun. Rat Catcher (and Sebastian) was my favorite character. Bloodsport was nothing like in the comics... he was just another Deadshot. Is there really a comics character called the Detachable Kid? If they were going to go hard-R for this film anyway, they should have put some nudity in to balance out the gore. They had a perfect opportunity in the club but passed on it.
This was rather too crude and violent for me, but it was still kind of fun. Rat Catcher (and Sebastian) was my favorite character. Bloodsport was nothing like in the comics... he was just another Deadshot. Is there really a comics character called the Detachable Kid? If they were going to go hard-R for this film anyway, they should have put some nudity in to balance out the gore. They had a perfect opportunity in the club but passed on it.
Why would they need nudity?
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This was rather too crude and violent for me, but it was still kind of fun. Rat Catcher (and Sebastian) was my favorite character. Bloodsport was nothing like in the comics... he was just another Deadshot. Is there really a comics character called the Detachable Kid? If they were going to go hard-R for this film anyway, they should have put some nudity in to balance out the gore. They had a perfect opportunity in the club but passed on it.
Why would they need nudity?
To give Detachable Kid something to do?
"The rarer action is In virtue than in vengeance." -- The Tempest, 5.1
This was rather too crude and violent for me, but it was still kind of fun. Rat Catcher (and Sebastian) was my favorite character. Bloodsport was nothing like in the comics... he was just another Deadshot. Is there really a comics character called the Detachable Kid? If they were going to go hard-R for this film anyway, they should have put some nudity in to balance out the gore. They had a perfect opportunity in the club but passed on it.
I think the Detachable Kid was based on Arm-Fall-Off-Boy from the Legion.
Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 31, 2023 8:23:37 GMT -5
Late at the party, but the film started streaming on Netflix over here this week. I'm halfway through right now.
I agree with the comments above: there's a clear Guardians of the Galaxy feel to this film (which I see as a positive point). However, unlike GotG, The Suicide Squad doesn't even try to pretend that it's anything else than a whacky comedy; a Roadrunner cartoon with superheroes. In such a context, the over-the-top graphic violence becomes totally harmless and often very funny. A shark eating someone in Jaws or a bomb blowing someone up in The Hurt Locker does not generate the same reaction as in a film basically disconnected from the real world; hence, we feel no guilt watching Wile E. Coyote being hit by a locomotive or some guerilla dude being swallowed by King Shark. Some would argue that such stories desensitize us to violence, but I think that most everyone can telle the difference between cartoon violence and the real thing. Personally, I welcome gallows humour in all its absurdity.
After having enjoyed the opening scene tremendously (who expected Michael Rooker's character to die before his name had even appeared on screen for the opening credits?), it took me a while to realize that I had already seen a very similar sequence in Deadpool 2. I don't begrudge The Suicide Squad for it; after all, it's not as if superhero movies were all that original to begin with. It also made sense to start by showing how the film's title is warranted.
The chapter titles look really nice indeed, and the deadpan way the actors handle their ridiculous characters works very well. Little things like Arms-fall-off Boy (or whatever his name is here) are hilarious; I loved seeing his arms float listlessly towards enemy soldiers to merely slap them as in a game of patty cake. That and Weasel not knowing how to swim, early in the film, made sure I'd stay around for more!
Although James Gunn oversees a major do-over in the DCU and that many actors will be let go, I hope he'll keep Margot Robbie around. (I wish he'd keep Gadot, Cavill and Viola Davis as well, but we can't have it all).
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