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Post by chaykinstevens on Jul 13, 2022 16:19:20 GMT -5
We learn that Nomad is nothing more than a stunt-man named Eddie Ferbel with delusions of grandeur such as acting (Maybe having a name like "Eddie Ferbel" is what did him in? Who's to say?). DeMatteis reused the name Eddie Ferbel for one of Scott Free's neighbours in the 1989 Mister Miracle revival, and a character named Ms Ferbel appeared in a story he wrote in House of Mystery #272 in 1979. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 13, 2022 16:41:50 GMT -5
This may have been the first Red Skull story I read, apart from his origin in Bring on the Bad Guys. Skull has always been a favorite of mine. It felt like he was utilized less once Kirby left the first time, taking a backseat to newer villains of the month. He kind of had something of reputation not unlike Death from Judge Dredd, where he's still viewed as the main baddy, even if he isn't always there DeMatteis might not have known at this point that he would become the regular Cap writer. I think he said the initial arc was reworked from an aborted a one-shot tabloid-sized tie-in to a Cap TV movie. In the back of Dawn's Early Light, it has some talking points from Stern where he says that he had a three-part story involving Skull in mind before Shooter told him to do less continuous arcs and he left. Always wondered if the three-parter was reworked by DeMatteis into this one Also, Confessor , didn't somebody mention that Steve metabolizes alcohol faster so that it's kind of impossible for him to get drunk? That, I think, came later, though I know someone suggested the opposite, after the metabolization was stated. I do recall that discussion, though, just can't remember where the ideal about metabolizing alcohol first occurred. It is in the first movie. I still think Ameridroid sounds like a brand name of a robot manufacturer. |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jul 13, 2022 16:44:09 GMT -5
In the back of Dawn's Early Light, it has some talking points from Stern where he says that he had a three-part story involving Skull in mind before Shooter told him to do less continuous arcs and he left. Always wondered if the three-parter was reworked by DeMatteis into this one I think Roger Stern's aborted Red Skull storyline would have involved the Swine and Arnim Zola. Byrne pencilled six pages before they walked away - these were published in some Cap collected editions. Also, Confessor , didn't somebody mention that Steve metabolizes alcohol faster so that it's kind of impossible for him to get drunk? Robert Morales wrote Steve saying he can't get drunk in Captain America v4 #27. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 13, 2022 16:45:32 GMT -5
I still think Ameridroid sounds like a brand name of a robot manufacturer. Or better yet, an American themed restaurant in Japan with robotic servers |
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 14, 2022 12:47:19 GMT -5
Finale: The Last Movie! (Captain America #263)Plot: Recounting details from the previous issues, Skull gloats before Cap. Now he has him right where he wants him and with his reputation damaged, he can kill him in clear conscience. Skull reanimates Dekker's body and uses him to attack Cap. But Dekker is slowly reminded of how Skull used him and lashes out, his body limp from electrocution. With the barrier between himself and Skull gone, Cap hurls his shield in a fit of rage and shatters a Doombot level clone of Skull. Back on the parade route, the reporter who did so much to elevate Nomad to godhood weeps for him in a maudlin fashion only to be arrested mid-sentence for conspiracy. Cap darts through the Nihilist Order's complex following Skull's voice. Back at Galactic Picture, the plug is pulled on the movie and it's decided that a documentary of Cap's exploits will be aired on tv. This was all according to plan you see, as Skull was in fact the grand overseer of Galactic Pictures. Because of all the bad press and the realization that Cap was purposely done in, his status as a man of the people has never been greater. So he sold the documentary to the highest bidder (MBC), laced with a hypno-chemical right out of Halloween 3 that will turn it's viewers into violent participants that will destroy everything around them (wonder if Skull got the idea from the Madbomb incident?). But this isn't going to happen without a fight. Later, Cap apprehends the only copy of the documentary and burns it (what a way to get rid of a cool million dollars huh?). Afterwards, Galactic Pictures is no more and is currently having it's finances investigated. But Cap and Wally look on the bright side, knowing that Cap helped save the American people from a really bad nightmare and Hollywood always has a silver lining.  Overall Thoughts: A bombastic ending to a great opening arc. In what seems to be a reoccurring theme for DeMatteis, the villain of the month isn't so much interested in getting rid of Cap, but the utter destruction of the very fabric of America itself
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Post by badwolf on Jul 14, 2022 14:28:21 GMT -5
That's such a great cover, although I think it could do without the word balloon. Zeck's Red Skull is the definitive one for me.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 14, 2022 21:05:23 GMT -5
This was a fun arc, though some of the finale was a bit hard to buy into. One of the things within this run is a call back to old characters, like Lyle Dekker and Red Skull; and, down the road, The Howling Commandos, the 50s Cap and Bucky, and Baron Helmut Zemo, who had been Phoenix, in an earlier story that left him disfigured. Plus, the great Deathlok crossover that kind served to bring a better conclusion to the original deathlok storyline and place him back into the Marvel Universe, after Gruenwald and Macchio kid of killed him off. Plus, Cap enters the world of professional wrestling....  Not a badly drawn dropkick, though the body is positioned wrong for the bump. |
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Post by berkley on Jul 14, 2022 23:42:00 GMT -5
This was a fun arc, though some of the finale was a bit hard to buy into. One of the things within this run is a call back to old characters, like Lyle Dekker and Red Skull; and, down the road, The Howling Commandos, the 50s Cap and Bucky, and Baron Helmut Zemo, who had been Phoenix, in an earlier story that left him disfigured. Plus, the great Deathlok crossover that kind served to bring a better conclusion to the original deathlok storyline and place him back into the Marvel Universe, after Gruenwald and Macchio kid of killed him off. Plus, Cap enters the world of professional wrestling.... Not a badly drawn dropkick, though the body is positioned wrong for the bump.
The perspective seems a bit off - the other guy's feet are in front of CA, but CA is drawn on a much larger scale, as if he's closer to the viewer. The overall effect feels awkward to me.
edit: looking at it again, I almost wonder if the Captain America figure was "copied and pasted" in from another drawing
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 15, 2022 10:11:46 GMT -5
This was a fun arc, though some of the finale was a bit hard to buy into. One of the things within this run is a call back to old characters, like Lyle Dekker and Red Skull; and, down the road, The Howling Commandos, the 50s Cap and Bucky, and Baron Helmut Zemo, who had been Phoenix, in an earlier story that left him disfigured. Plus, the great Deathlok crossover that kind served to bring a better conclusion to the original deathlok storyline and place him back into the Marvel Universe, after Gruenwald and Macchio kid of killed him off. Plus, Cap enters the world of professional wrestling.... Not a badly drawn dropkick, though the body is positioned wrong for the bump.
The perspective seems a bit off - the other guy's feet are in front of CA, but CA is drawn on a much larger scale, as if he's closer to the viewer. The overall effect feels awkward to me.
edit: looking at it again, I almost wonder if the Captain America figure was "copied and pasted" in from another drawing
Well, Cap is falling the wrong way, for a dropkick. You take a back bump, off of a dropkick. Mr X should be facing more towards the mat, at that stage of the kick, as the deliverer takes a front bump (usually), off of a dropkick. I give them points for at least depicting a real wrestling high spot, rather than a generic comic book maneuver. A flying body press, ala Mil Mascaras, might have been a bit more spectacular and easier for the artist to do. Maybe he couldn't get ahold of a copy of Pro Wrestling Illustrated. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 15, 2022 11:44:14 GMT -5
This was a fun arc, though some of the finale was a bit hard to buy into. One of the things within this run is a call back to old characters, like Lyle Dekker and Red Skull; and, down the road, The Howling Commandos, the 50s Cap and Bucky, and Baron Helmut Zemo, who had been Phoenix, in an earlier story that left him disfigured. Plus, the great Deathlok crossover that kind served to bring a better conclusion to the original deathlok storyline and place him back into the Marvel Universe, after Gruenwald and Macchio kid of killed him off. Plus, Cap enters the world of professional wrestling.... Not a badly drawn dropkick, though the body is positioned wrong for the bump. That particular issue was done by David Anthony Kraft, which is actually quite a good issue. His other Cap issues have more of a "Saturday Morning Cartoon" feel (see #265 & #266/#273 & #274), but the one you posted has a very grim, late 70's exploitation cinema feeling to it |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jul 15, 2022 14:02:09 GMT -5
I wonder why they chose to ditch the John Byrne drawing of Cap in the corner box and revert to the one from Jack Kirby's second run. |
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