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Post by Ozymandias on Nov 8, 2022 4:43:21 GMT -5
The Uncanny X-Men issues #141–142.
There was some demand for more fine grain, so I'm adding half points for the part of the spectrum which got the most votes in The Dark Phoenix Saga poll. There's also a poll for The Proteus Saga running along this one.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 8, 2022 5:20:13 GMT -5
For me this was the best X-men story in the Byrne era. Too bad alternate universes/ futures were milked to death after this. It was all done in 2 issues. That's unheard of today. It would have been at least 7 issues with tie ins to other books that have nothing to do with the X-men. I'm looking at you Inferno.
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Post by Ozymandias on Nov 8, 2022 6:06:20 GMT -5
To a lesser extent, Mutant Massacre did its thing before Inferno.
When I talked about Days of Future Past, back then, I deluded myself into thinking that two issues didn't seem enough, but maybe it was, at least for many others.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 8, 2022 6:11:45 GMT -5
To a lesser extent, Mutant Massacre did its thing before Inferno. When I talked about Days of Future Past, back then, I deluded myself into thinking that two issues didn't seem enough, but maybe it was, at least for many others. This was the era before everything started to get padded out. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 6:44:17 GMT -5
I voted 8.5.
Is it the greatest X-tale (or the greatest alternate universe tale?). I’d say no. I quite like “The Age of Apocalypse” on every level, I was utterly engrossed by that. But “Days of Future Past” was very solid, kept my attention throughout, and is probably the template I’d use if I was a writer and tasked with doing an alternate universe X-storyline. 9 and 10 would feel too generous, but 8 is a little bit low, so 8.5 works perfectly for me.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 8, 2022 7:00:06 GMT -5
I gave it a 5, not so much as a statement on its quality (it's p;retty good, actually, and it gave us Senator Kelly and the new Brotherhood) but as the beginning of Claremont's incessant revisitation of this storyline, leading to Rachel Summers, Nimrod, Bishop, and all the rest of the time travel bushwah that plagued thee book thereafter and was about as enjoyable as watching a leper pick his scabs.
Cei-U!
I summon the continuity clusterf**k!
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Post by coke & comics on Nov 8, 2022 7:50:20 GMT -5
I think it's pretty close to the best X-Men story ever. For my money, the best Claremont/Byrne X-Men story.
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Post by badwolf on Nov 8, 2022 9:22:11 GMT -5
10/10
I remember how this blew me away when it first came out.
I don't think we should judge it by the stuff that followed.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 8, 2022 9:23:37 GMT -5
I think it's pretty close to the best X-Men story ever. For my money, the best Claremont/Byrne X-Men story. I agree with this. So I went 7.5. |
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Post by Dizzy D on Nov 8, 2022 9:26:43 GMT -5
I quite like it, I think it's the first step on making Magneto a more rounded character. It's short and too the point and doesn't keep too many dangling plotlines like other Claremont stories. Mystique's Brotherhood is one of my favourite villain groups in comics.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 8, 2022 10:33:28 GMT -5
I went with a mid-range 5, because I was neither blown away by it or horrified by it. It just fell into the middle of the pack, for me. The basic premise was fine; but, it struck me as little more than an X-Men What If...? story, with the usual dark tone to things in the alternate world.
It may be nostalgia; but I am more attached to pre-Dark Phoenix X-Men stories than post-Dark Phoenix ones, largely due to when I encountered them. However, when I started picking up Classic X-Men, in college, to read all of the issues I missed and couldn't afford to buy as back issues, I still found that the issues I enjoyed then still held up well and the ones that didn't bowl me over still didn't, when I became a regular reader. Of course, that was from the early 80s, when Claremont started to repeat himself.
I always enjoyed the more swashbuckling flavor that the Cockrum stories had, especially the Shi'ar stuff, which is part of why I have never been satisfied with #107, because of the abrupt shift to Byrne's more technocratic sci-fi renderings. I also preferred the way Cockrum drew the SR-71, even though the lines were altered. It made it seem more unique, for the X-Men, like a modified prototype, rather than the more generic version that others drew (even if it was more accurate).
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 8, 2022 10:34:22 GMT -5
Brilliant take on superhero stories, with massively high stakes, big character development, and it was all done in an economical two-issues run. The story's legacy was grievously hurt by overexploitation... but as a single story, it is among the very best super-team tales I ever read.
(We should never have gone back to that timeline. It should have been erased, as per the story's premise).
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Post by impulse on Nov 8, 2022 11:17:23 GMT -5
Definitely a product of its times, but one of if not my favorite X-MEN stories of all time. It just seemed so cool. This was before alternate reality stories were played out to death.
Taken in context for the times, it's a 10 for me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 12:59:15 GMT -5
This was before alternate reality stories were played out to death. Absolutely! Well said. Like wrestling (why does Hell in a Cell need to be an entire PPV rather than an occasional gimmick match?), a lot in comics has been played out to death. I did quite enjoy DC’s Metal storyline from a few years ago, but then now - and even today - it seems we’re getting countless spin-offs/tie-ins to that story, I’m still waiting for “Elongated Man: Metal” or something. Less is more. Days of Future Past was a nice, digestible meal. Today any concept or storyline has to be a 6-course meal. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 8, 2022 15:54:11 GMT -5
8.5. A bold game-changer, but possibly the only time in X-Men history where a major storyline should have been made longer. There was so much more to do here.
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