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Post by berkley on Mar 4, 2024 19:44:02 GMT -5
The 1 comic=1comic and the 20 pages of an OGN =1 comic make sense to me, but the newspaper strips feel a bit less obvious to me, for some reason. Maybe I'll try timing myself to see how long it takes me to read 4 or 8 weeks of Canyon next time I get back to that one, and compare it to the time I take over a comic or 20 pages of an OGN.
I just go with shaxper 's recomendation of 20-25 pages equaling 1 comic. That's what I did for the Belgian Blake & Mortimer albums I read in January. 3) When calculating your total number of comics read for each month, a single comic book is generally considered to be a modern age 20-25 page comic book. Any book of a significantly longer length can be counted as such (i.e. a comic containing 70 pages of CONTENT, not including adds, could be counted as 3 issues).
Yes, I agree, but the collected newspaper strips are where I think it gets a little less obvious. I lean towards 4 weeks=1 comic for those, because a day's strip feels like around 1 page of a comic book. Most collections print at least 3 weekday strips per page, which would usually be 12 panels - which I concede is not too many for a single comic book page, though I think many, perhaps even most comic books would average less than that. However, because of the structure of news-strips, most single days contain something of significance to the plot, which is more than would happen every 4 panels in most comic books.
But all this is just groping for an explanation for my intuitive feeling that the 20-page rule might not work for strip collections. And another thing, what about collections that print 4 or 5 strips per page? That would really stretch the point, to my mind.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 4, 2024 20:01:04 GMT -5
I just go with shaxper 's recomendation of 20-25 pages equaling 1 comic. That's what I did for the Belgian Blake & Mortimer albums I read in January. Yes, I agree, but the collected newspaper strips are where I think it gets a little less obvious. I lean towards 4 weeks=1 comic for those, because a day's strip feels like around 1 page of a comic book. Most collections print at least 3 weekday strips per page, which would usually be 12 panels - which I concede is not too many for a single comic book page, though I think many, perhaps even most comic books would average less than that. However, because of the structure of news-strips, most single days contain something of significance to the plot, which is more than would happen every 4 panels in most comic books. But all this is just groping for an explanation for my intuitive feeling that the 20-page rule might not work for strip collections. And another thing, what about collections that print 4 or 5 strips per page? That would really stretch the point, to my mind.
Personally, I wouldn't overthink it because, even if we are just talking about floppy U.S. comic books, there's a world of difference in terms of time required and volume of text between reading 5 issues of a mid-2000s comic and 5 issues of a densely packed early 60s comic. So, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just estimate it as best you can. It's not a competition to see who can read the most issues, after all. That said, I guess even with newspaper strips the 20 page guideline would still work when determining a regular comic issue's worth, no? Like, if you were reading Peanuts strips, with maybe 4 or 5 strips per page, that's still roughly a page of a comic which would be somewhat similar in volume to a page of a Tintin album or a page of an issue of the Ditko/Lee Amazing Spider-Man. And even if you're reading something with longer daily strips, a page is still a page, surely?
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Post by james on Mar 4, 2024 20:36:25 GMT -5
A community within a community, this is where interested participants log what they read each month so that we can examine each other's selections and discuss them. While there's a whole other thread in this forum for discussing classic comics you've read, the conversations here pertain more to other members inquiring about or commenting on what you are reading (and vice versa). More than anything else though, it's just darn fun to keep track of what you've read for a year and keep tabs on what your fellow classic comics posters are reading as well! In previous years, the emphasis was placed on how many comics you read. This is still an interesting number to track for a variety of purposes, but the end goal shouldn't be quantity over quality. There are no "winners" in this thread. Heck, I read a lot less than most each year, and I still keep starting the darn thing up again every January. The previous years' reading clubs: 2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014. Guidelines 1) Please reserve a post in this thread where you will continue to update your list. Whenever you read something new, edit your original posts to reflect this change. 2) Do not post any other replies to this thread until January 5th. Let's give everyone a chance to reserve a post on the first page of the thread. 3) When calculating your total number of comics read for each month, a single comic book is generally considered to be a modern age 20-25 page comic book. Any book of a significantly longer length can be counted as such (i.e. a comic containing 70 pages of CONTENT, not including adds, could be counted as 3 issues). 4) Comic strips may be counted. I generally count 40 standard daily strips as 1 issue, but it's up to you to count them as you see fit. Obviously, Little Nemo's Adventures in Slumberland should be counted differently than Garfield. 5) Several of us counted comic-related novels and pulp stories in our lists in previous years. In the past, I have tended to count anywhere from 8 to 15 pages of text as a single comic book issue, depending upon text size and complexity. Looking forward to seeing what you read! You may reserve your spots in the thread NOW!! ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ January Absolute Carnage: Immortal Hulk Amazing Adventures (1950) #1 Blondie Comics #15 Classics Illustrated #124 (War of The Worlds) Defenders: Best Defense Fantastic Four #233-234 Hulk (2000) #13 Immortal Hulk #7-27* Immortal Hulk: Best Defense Mandrake The Magician #1 Star Trek #400 Star Trek Free Comic Book Day 2023 Treasure Chest (v. 13) #2 Uncanny X-Men #146-147* w/ Amber Walt Disney's Christmas Parade (1963) #1 Walt Disney's Donald Duck #257, 263, 273, 277, 280, 282, 284, 285, 287, 288-299, 301-304 Wasp (2023) #1 Wonder Book of Rubber
*indicates an issue I have read previously total read this month: 64 total reviewed this month: Best comics I read this month: Absolute Carnage: Immortal Hulk, Blondie Comics #15, Fantastic Four #234, Immortal Hulk #17-24*, Wonder Book of Rubber (no, seriously!) Other highlights this month: Amazing Adventures (1950) #1, Classics Illustrated #124 (War of The Worlds), Immortal Hulk #7-16*,25-27, Star Trek #400, Treasure Chest (v. 13) #2, Uncanny X-Men #146-147* w/ Amber, Walt Disney's Christmas Parade (1963) #1, Walt Disney's Donald Duck #257,263,273,280,282,294,303 FebruaryAction Comics #678 All-Star Western #10 Bone #1-12*, 13-20 Gamma Flight #1 Immortal Hulk #28-40, 41*, 42-50 Immortal Hulk: Time of Monsters Immortal She-Hulk #1 Incredible Hulk #-1, 312 King In Black: Immortal Hulk Marvel Family #1 Superman: The Man of Steel #13 Wild Bill Elliott Comics #7 *indicates an issue I have read previously total read this month: 54 total reviewed this month: 2 Best comics I read this month: All-Star Western #10, Bone #13-20, Immortal Hulk #34-49, King In Black: Immortal Hulk Other highlights this month: Immortal Hulk: Time of Monsters, Marvel Family #1 _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ 2023 Total Read: 118 2023 Total Reviewed: 2 Platinum Age: Golden Age: 1 Atom Age: 5 Silver Age: 3 Bronze Age: 7 Copper Age: 46 Modern Age: 56 superhero: 63 humor: 27 fantasy/mythology: 20 science fiction: 4 western: 2 promotional: 1 action/adventure: biography/everyday life: horror/occult: crime: Industry news/fandom: drama/romance/soap opera: war: other: 1 Marvel: 59 Gladstone: 25 Cartoon Books: 20 DC: 3 IDW: 2 King: 2 B. F. Goodrich: 1 Dell: 1 Fawcett: 1 Gilberton: 1 Gold Key: 1 Pflaum: 1 Ziff Davis: 1
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 5, 2024 1:12:44 GMT -5
I judge somewhat case by case...for older comics collected in trades by topics or characters (so that some are not complete issues), I go with the 20-ish pages = 1 issue. For stuff in different formats (like Manga, or European books) I go with 1 comic takes 15-20 minutes to, so how long does this take me? That has turned out to typically be 2 typical manga chapters = 1 comic... so 3-4 issues per volume.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 7, 2024 17:22:58 GMT -5
Has anyone read any of the Solomon Kane novellas? I've long enjoyed the comics, and during this latest reading of mine I came across two separate adaptations of Deaths Black Riders and I'm wondering which is closer to the original. I want to say the earlier Marvel version by Roy Thomas likely strayed more as it had Kane and Conan team up, but you never know.
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Post by berkley on Mar 14, 2024 23:30:11 GMT -5
Has anyone read any of the Solomon Kane novellas? I've long enjoyed the comics, and during this latest reading of mine I came across two separate adaptations of Deaths Black Riders and I'm wondering which is closer to the original. I want to say the earlier Marvel version by Roy Thomas likely strayed more as it had Kane and Conan team up, but you never know.
I have, but so long ago that I don't remember them well in detail, just the overall setting and atmosphere, and of course Kane's character, which I think the Marvel adaptations tried to stick to. Where or when did the Marvel version of this story appear? If it was in the 1970s then I'd imagine I must have read it at the time but I can't place it off the top of my head.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 15, 2024 5:09:22 GMT -5
Has anyone read any of the Solomon Kane novellas? I've long enjoyed the comics, and during this latest reading of mine I came across two separate adaptations of Deaths Black Riders and I'm wondering which is closer to the original. I want to say the earlier Marvel version by Roy Thomas likely strayed more as it had Kane and Conan team up, but you never know.
I have, but so long ago that I don't remember them well in detail, just the overall setting and atmosphere, and of course Kane's character, which I think the Marvel adaptations tried to stick to. Where or when did the Marvel version of this story appear? If it was in the 1970s then I'd imagine I must have read it at the time but I can't place it off the top of my head.
It was actually much later, it was in 1994 and it had Conan and Kane actually meeting through magical shenanigans. I thought it was fun, and I can't find any story summaries of Death's Dark Riders on line so I can't confirm it but I'm thinking that having Conan meet Kane was Roy Thomas' invention, especially as it didn't happen in the latter Dark Horse adaptation.
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Post by commond on Apr 1, 2024 0:00:08 GMT -5
I was quite pleased with my comic book reading this month.
I began exploring the work of John Severin after thoroughly enjoying his artwork on the Losers, and also began examining the work of Bryan Talbot, a creator who doesn't get mentioned a lot around here. The Tale of One Bad Rat is a harrowing tale about a victim of child that draws heavily upon the works of Beatrix Potter. Heart of Empire is a sequel to The Adventures of Luther Arkwright, and one of the better works from the late 90s that I'm aware of. I also managed to get completely up to date with the long running manga series, Kingdom, and finish Slam Dunk. The final match in Slam Dunk is some of the most engrossing comic book work I've read in a long time. A lot of people don't like the final epilogue chapter, but I thought it was very Japanese and a typically understated ending to a manga. This One Summer was a beautiful graphic novel that I need to do a write up for in my Eisners thread. Loved The Elsewhere Prince, and enjoyed Blueberry every Sunday.
Fables went out on a whimper, and I continue to be somewhat unenthusiastic about Terry Moore's recent stuff. I started reading Dragon Ball because Toriyama died recently and it's such a famous series in Japan, but I wasn't expecting there to be so much toilet humor and sex jokes. I get that it's a comedy aimed at young adolescent boys but so many girls like it too. I guess there's some kind of culture gap going on.
EDIT: Oh, and I replaced Nexus with Madman as my ongoing re-read, and man am I loving reading that book again. It's even better than I remembered.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Apr 1, 2024 0:29:38 GMT -5
Wrapped up March, most of my reading has been focused on more recent stuff, been on a DC kick and catching up on both Rebirth and Dawn of DC stuff I never looked at. Solid month of reading, again broke the 100 comic mark, and well on pace to meet my stated goal for the year. Highlight this month included late 70s/early 80s vintage Savage Sword of Conan issues, the recent Titan Conan series, the debut of Helen of Wyndhorn, the Ape-Ril Special from DC, the Facsimile Edition of Detective #411 introducing Talia al Ghul, and the collected edition of Phillip Kennedy Johnson's Warworld Saga from his Action Comics run.
Not sure where April will take me reading-wise, still on a pretty big DC kick after being on a Marvel kick for almost 2 years and I want to hit some older stuff as well as the more recent vintage stuff I seemed to focus on in March, but I've gotten volumes of Jeff Smith, Terr Moore and Stan Sakai stuff recently that I want to dive in to, so we'll see where that goes.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 1, 2024 16:59:57 GMT -5
I agree Fables ended with a whimper...while I'd love to see someone else do some stories in Fables, I doubt that will happen. I enjoyed reading some late Barks... some of his stuff gets a little weird, but this was a good set of stories. I didn't read a whole lot of classic stuff this month, mostly just my pull lists. we'll see if that changes in April.
I was also surprised at the potty humor in the original Dragon Ball (much of that is removed from the anime)... I didn't read too much of it.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 1, 2024 17:08:39 GMT -5
Finished up March with 36.5 books, which is pretty in line with the first two months of the year. Almost all of it was either Hellboy or B.P.R.D. which I've been enjoying, but I'm going to take a little break because I'm feeling kind of burnt out on it.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 1, 2024 19:01:17 GMT -5
After finishing up my Solomon Kane reading I thought to reread some of my caveman comics after catching a screening of the 13th Warrior(a favorite of mine) at a cinema pub. I meant to do a smattering of old favorites like Anthro and Tor but when I got to Turock I just couldn't help myself and read everything I had. I need to go back and try to find some more collections of the early stuff as it holds up well both in art and story to this day despite its simplicity. Of the modern stuff I really loved the new direction the first Dynamite story took the concept, with instead of a valley of dinosaurs it was an alternate history where dinosaurs coexisted with man and were used as beasts of burden by crusaders and Gengis Khan. Was it ridiculous? Absolutely, but it was incredibly fun too.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 2, 2024 13:52:05 GMT -5
March was a fairly poor month for me, as far as comic reading goes -- I only read 16 comics!
Still, there were some great comics among that 16, such as Giant-Size X-Men #1, Uncanny X-Men #141 and 142 (Days of Future Past), and the finish of J. Michael Straczynski's run on Amazing Spider-Man. It's quality, not quantity, right?
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Apr 2, 2024 14:06:09 GMT -5
March was a fairly poor month for me, as far as comic reading goes -- I only read 16 comics! Still, there were some great comics among that 16, such as Giant-Size X-Men #1, Uncanny X-Men #141 and 142 (Days of Future Past), and the finish of J. Michael Straczynski's run on Amazing Spider-Man. It's quality, not quantity, right? As long as you are enjoying what you are reading and the reading experience, I'm never going to comment of the quantity. Everyone has their own pace, and their own preference for how much they want to read, let alone different schedules that may dictate how much time you have available for reading. -M
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 3, 2024 15:53:07 GMT -5
March was a fairly poor month for me, as far as comic reading goes -- I only read 16 comics! Still, there were some great comics among that 16, such as Giant-Size X-Men #1, Uncanny X-Men #141 and 142 (Days of Future Past), and the finish of J. Michael Straczynski's run on Amazing Spider-Man. It's quality, not quantity, right? As long as you are enjoying what you are reading and the reading experience, I'm never going to comment of the quantity. Everyone has their own pace, and their own preference for how much they want to read, let alone different schedules that may dictate how much time you have available for reading. -M Exactly this. I kind of stepped away from logging my reading a few years back because I felt like I was pressuring myself and reading to check boxes rather than fun, but I missed seeing what everyone is into so I jumped back in and I'm trying not to read for anything else but fun.
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