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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 28, 2024 7:07:54 GMT -5
RagsIn wanted you to see the results of a lot that I just sold this week. I'm just purging my collection.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 28, 2024 7:03:20 GMT -5
I can't name a single Superhero writer that doesn't begin to recycle their plots or approach plots the same way after years of doing it. Johns is not the only culprit. Indeed. I could name some choice writers (and artist/writers) in comic history who were guilty of that, but that would turn into 90 pages of what-about-isms. I guess that's why most writers move on. Even people like Alan Moore only seem to do about 3 years on a title. The stories get stale and you need a fresh perspective. Look at Claremont, he stayed too late at the dance with X-men.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 28, 2024 5:00:30 GMT -5
I respect Bendis for pushing the boundaries of what a comic book narrative looks like. It may not always work for me, but at least he doesn't pretend that comic books ended with the Bronze Age.
I'd certainly prefer someone who tries something different, in however limited a manner, than someone like - I dunno, Geoff Johns? - who keeps recycling his idea of the comics he loved as a kid. However, I haven't read enough superhero comics the last many years to talk about any of these guys much. The few things I have looked at have not impressed me - at all - and that goes for all of them.
I can't name a single Superhero writer that doesn't begin to recycle their plots or approach plots the same way after years of doing it. Johns is not the only culprit.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 26, 2024 21:05:20 GMT -5
Journey into Mystery# 110 " Every Hand against him"Writer Stan Lee , Artist:Jack Kirby, Inks: Chic Stone Plot summary: Loki makes his way to earth and bails out Mr. Hyde and the Cobra. Once away from prying eyes, he reveals himself as Thor's brother and hated enemy to the two miscreants. He doubles their power and instructs them on how to kill Thor telling them to first capture Jane Foster. They do so and Blake turns to Thor but is immediately stifled from taking them down for fear that Jane will come to harm. As they leave ,they order Thor to meet them in 24 hours time in order to turn over his hammer to them. Meanwhile, Loki, who has returned to Asgard, is watching the events unfold with Odin. He convinces the all father that Thor has turned coward and is not fighting evil like he is commanded to do. Odin appears before Thor and banishes him from Asgard. Of course Thor goes to Asgard to confront his brother, who he senses is behind the entire situation. One he beats up everyone on the rainbow bridge and in the land eternal, he confronts Loki who tells him where to find the two antagonists. Odin appears and sends Thor back to earth suspending his judgement of him for the time being. When he reaches earth, he is sent to where the two have Jane captive and he is caught in an explosion that also harms Jane. Janet is in critical condition and looks like she won't survive much time without medical attention. Thor uses his hammer to stop time in the house as the two are preparing to finish them off. To be continued. Comments: Interesting type of story that goes all over the place. Once again Loki shows the ability to grant amazing powers to ordinary humans. Cobra and Hydes powers are doubled but there's no indication that it's permanent or temporary. I'm not comfortable with powers being granted with a wave of the hand and without a price. Also, it looks like Loki can just come and go from Asgard as he pleases. Maybe Odin gave up on trying to keep him prisoner? Once again , another villain covets Thors hammer . Them saying, that they will meet him in 24 hours was kind of dopey. The cliffhanger is cool, and creates a nice tension. Cool Moment :
Thor fighting his way through Asgard was a nice visual. I feel like he's going to do that every 7 issues or so in this series. Silly moment: Loki , once confronted by Thor in Asgard , ignores his aggressiveness and smells a flower. Tales of Asgard
"The Defeat of Odin " Lee/ Kirby/ Colletta
The forces of Asgard prepare to face the attack of the legions of Prince Rivvak. Rivvak has just gained the throne from his father who has died but doesn't have the courage for the upcoming battle. Odin commands his army to attack across an area that is full of geysers and are forced to retreat, giving the new King a victory and the respect of his people. Thor , to his surprise , can see that Odin chose to throw the fight. Commentary: The forces of Rivvak are not given a name or identified as people from a different land. It makes me think they were just a faction of former people of Asgard that went their separate way sometime in the past. It doesn't really pay to overthink a 5 page backup story, I guess.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 26, 2024 19:58:14 GMT -5
Journey into Mystery #109October 1964 "When Magneto Strikes!" Commentary: I mentioned before that this one was not one of my favorites, but I have come around it. Reading the whole series like this and digging deep into each issue one by one, I find so much to like that I didn't always notice before. Like Blake holding his own in Magneto's submersible fort. Like the X-Men and their efforts to be discrete in someone else's comic book series. Like Jane Foster's relief at having some time for romance with Don that doesn't involve getting abducted by evil gods or super-villains. OR COMMIES! I think the main reason I used to have a problem with it is just how little really happens. There's no grand plan from the Brotherhood. Magneto is just messing around with his powers. The Brotherhood isn't in it very much, and I love the Brotherhood! Pietro, Wanda, the Toad and Mastermind are so much fun! I love the team dynamic! They are all such jerks to each other! But with no affection like you get between, say, Johnny and Ben in the Fantastic Four. And then there's the way Magneto just writes off another secret base! How does he keep doing that?! But ... that stuff doesn't really bother me that much anymore. It's just more dumb comic book stuff. With great art from Jack Kirby and Chic Stone! Comic books are stupid. Tales of Asgard: "Banished from Asgard!": And then in Tales of Asgard, we get the tale of the time Odin was BIG MAD and he banished Thor! (Well, one of the times he banished Thor.) And the Asgardian named Arkin the Weak ran off to tell Knorda, the beautiful (and normal-sized) queen of the mountain giants so they could ambush Thor while he is out of favor with Odin. With Thor unable to defend Asgard, the fabled city will soon fall to the giants and the forces of evil. But ... it's a set-up. A fake banishment. Thor leads Knorda and her mountain giants into a trap. You see, Odin suspected there was a traitor among them and he set up this trap to smoke him out. One assumes that Arkin was very dreadfully punished because, as far as I know, he has never appeared again. Before I give my commentary, this a picture of my copy Commentary:
This is an interesting cross pollination of the larger Marvel universe than we've seen thus far . We have seen appearances by the Avengers but here we get Magneto and ( almost) the X-men. The contest between Magneto and Thor is not close. Thor whips his butt and has to be turned into Blake in order to give the fight some tension. This is a very nice display of the Thunder gods abilities. I've yet to see a consistent depiction of the Hammer. Why does it turn into a cane after 60 seconds ? I remember in other stories and future issues where it remains a hammer until Blake reaches it again. Cool moments:I like the display of Thors arrogance. It fits with his character and you know his opponent is gonna get it. Here he brags to Magneto about his power. It's quite cool. Here, this panel shows off raw unbelievable power that had Magneto in fear. I love it. Tales of Asgard:The reader can guess that Thor;s banishment is some type of ruse and we see someone that is called Loki's cousin in this tale. How does that work, exactly ? If he was adopted , then this person should be another frost giant . If he's related through Odin's blood , doesn't that mean he's Thors cousin as well ? Maybe Cei-U! has answers.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 26, 2024 5:09:02 GMT -5
James
Honorable mention Tartanphantom, Kal
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 25, 2024 19:40:11 GMT -5
Good luck on getting the books, Hoosier.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 25, 2024 17:37:44 GMT -5
I saw a beat-up but not-too-beat-up copy of Detective Comics #237 on eBay. It’s got a nice glossy cover but it has a few defects, like a 1.5-inch spine split and some slightly ragged edges on the front cover. But it looks pretty nice mostly. We’ll see when it gets here, I guess. Only $150. Is it a key book ?
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 25, 2024 13:55:40 GMT -5
Sorry I missed it (again) You don't need us anymore. you hang with the cool kids now...
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 25, 2024 13:54:57 GMT -5
And a preview of this movie that Tartanphantom watched So Catherine Shell went to the Moon before Space: 1999? I got to see that one... She looked very attractive without that alien makeup.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 24, 2024 20:43:09 GMT -5
Meeting today attended by- spoontartanphantomMWGallaherRob Allenand Mee!!! Subjects covered- Pacific comics, Dave Stevens, Brian Bolland, the First Comics E-man run, Kirby's work in Black Panther, Kamandi, Eternals, Battlestar Galactica the second series, last years Flash movie, Jerry Lewis movie theater owner ? Humphey Bogart movies. And a preview of this movie that Tartanphantom watched
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 24, 2024 8:52:06 GMT -5
I don't remember Hawkman being overly conservative, I thought it was just that they clashed. I have a decent amount of Satellite era JLA, but most of the stories are forgettable. The "conservative" angle may have come up when they were both appearing in World's Finest. I think the idea was that Hawkman was a 'space cop' so he instinctively came down on the side of law and order. There was one story that was told in two parts:one in the Hawkman feature and one in the Green Arrow. A fugitive comes to Earth pursued by a lawman from his home planet. Hawkman teams up with the lawman while Green Arrow aids the fugitive. It is ultimately revealed that they are an intergalactic version of Jean Valjean and Inspector Javert, and the fugitive's crime was the equivalent of stealing bread. That story certainly highlighted their conservative and progressive mindsets. It's amazing how many times that plot is used. One of my favorite World's Finest stories involves a similar story.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 24, 2024 6:57:43 GMT -5
Coloring credits are missing from those Charlton books (and from all comics of that period) because coloring was the last stage in production and the assignment was frequently made after the lettering was complete. It wasn't until the '70s that the process was streamlined sufficiently to accommodate colorist credits. Cei-U! I summon the paint pots! I have to confess, I don't ever notice who colors or letters comics. And I don't think I ever saw a difference in the finished product.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 24, 2024 6:55:32 GMT -5
Those GA issues following the Neal Adam’s rendition seemed to show a flawed “ progressive “ that also had bouts of being a hypocrite. You know, like the rest of us. Yeah, absolutely. At this point a question. They often showed that the opposite of Green Arrow would be the "conservative" Hawkman. I admit that I have read practically nothing about Hawkman pre or post Crisis, but how did he acquire this "political" fame? Just because he's a kind of cop? I don't remember Hawkman being overly conservative, I thought it was just that they clashed. I have a decent amount of Satellite era JLA, but most of the stories are forgettable.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 24, 2024 4:39:03 GMT -5
Those GA issues following the Neal Adam’s rendition seemed to show a flawed “ progressive “ that also had bouts of being a hypocrite. You know, like the rest of us.
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