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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 19, 2014 18:32:08 GMT -5
John Sable 1 (First Comics June '83) This is number one of two in my evolution from following characters (and focusing almost exclusively on the Big Two) to following creators and stories and branching out my reading. This one didn't quite make the break that the one that will come later did. I was a huge fan of Warlord. So when Grell went to First I sampled Starslayer...but Sable really caught my attention. It was the right mix of different from Super-heroes with a bit of that same aesthetic to really draw me in. I still leaned heavily toward super-heroes and DC and Marvel for a few more years. But Sable was the gateway into a wider world.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 19, 2014 19:09:36 GMT -5
12 days of Classic Christmas #6
Mr. Miracle #8
Jack Kirby Mike Royer 1972Mr. Miracle was my favorite of all the Forth world books. I don’t know why but this particular issue captured my fancy more than the others. He was trapped in a battle with a creature in it’s mind. As a boy, I drew this issue over and over. Kirby drew great battle scenes and Barda was beautiful yet powerful. I hated what Dc did to them later on by putting them in the Justice League as part of an ongoing joke. But here they were awesome Kirby was and still is , King of the double page splash. Big Barda was great.
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Post by Action Ace on Dec 19, 2014 19:33:43 GMT -5
CLASSIC COMICS CHRISTMAS #6
JLA #1
"Them"
On sale November 6, 1996 Written by Grant Morrison Penciled by Howard Porter Inked by John Dell Edited by Ruben Diaz Cover by Howard Porter I had heard of Grant Morrison, but all I had read of him to this point was the first five issues of Aztek that he co-wrote with Mark Millar. It's a great start to a great series filled with wonder that harkens back to the Fox/ Sekowsky era. (right down to writer I love paired with artist I can barely tolerate) There are two other factors that put it on this list though. First, this was the spark of the Counter-Revolution. For years DC had avoided putting the big guns back together in the JLA for whatever reason. The powers that be favored tossing a bunch of heroes on to the team, slapping JLA on the cover and hoping for the best. Thankfully, Morrison overcame that with his pitch and the Big 7 was born. It was a big success for DC and showed the company that Pre-Crisis elements could be brought back. In the years that followed, Post-Crisis foundations were cracked (Byrne's Superman), the multiverse returned and old friends came back such as Hal and Barry. Second, this was my introduction to comic book "discussion" on the internet. Morrison's JLA was not welcome by a large part of DC's fanbase. The book was criticized for being boring, with one dimensional stars that had their own books. Many wanted the humorous JLI back or second stringers that could be developed by the writer to become stars. Needless to say, I had words with these people, lots of them. So, if you're looking to blame someone for why I'm posting in this forum, blame Grant Morrison and JLA #1.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Dec 19, 2014 19:57:20 GMT -5
#6. Suicide Squad #1
Synopsis: Amanda Waller organizes a mission to take down the Jihad before they can attack the U.S. Why I chose it: If most comic collectors are anything like me (a terrifying thought, I know) then they will a series that they regard as 'their series': a series that was never incredibly popular, but which they loved, and which they got in on the ground floor of, following it all the way to cancellation. Suicide Squad is 'my series'. Suicide Squad offered up an exciting mix of action and espionage, combined with some deep emotional involvement. The fact that these were characters that no one cared up freed John Ostrander to do what he wanted with them. He added real depth to what had previously been cardboard characters (pretty much everything about Deadshot's personality was created by Ostrander in this series). And he made you care about these characters while never letting you forget that these were horrible, and/or severely damaged, individuals. And he created a fantastic supporting cast, including Amanda Waller (the real Amanda Waller, not the waifish supermodel who appears in the New 52). When it was cancelled, I cursed the narrow-mindedness of the suits in the corporate who cared only about money and not story-telling, and the stupidity of fanboys who wouldn't know quality comics if they bit them on the arse and only wanted to read about Wolverine clones. So, Suicide Squad = 'my series'. Dont curse me brother, i bought every issue of that sucker I could get my sweaty little 'fulla hands on.
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Post by Calamas on Dec 19, 2014 20:21:38 GMT -5
Action Comics #583 Sept 1986 “Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? Part Two” Alan Moore Curt Swan Kurt Schaffenberger My first duplicate. And one of three choices I felt had a chance to be picked by someone else. There’s not much more I can say that hasn’t already been expressed. Except maybe to suggest one other reason why it was the perfect wrap up to an era. It had come about belatedly. Superman had gotten away from the “Bates-Maggin-Pasko-Wein”-type Bronze Age stories. DC had tried to return to the time of shorter stories featuring con men, ruses, and lighthearted capers. They didn’t work. With John Byrne on the horizon and Julie Schwartz leaving the stage, Superman needed a better sign off. He got a brilliant one. Has any other story ever celebrated the past while still pointing out the absurdities (“Did you honestly believe a fifth-dimensional sorcerer would resemble a funny little man in a derby hat?”). And an ending appropriate to both the story and the era. A final-panel wink never meant so much.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Dec 19, 2014 20:58:02 GMT -5
#6. The Authority 5Warren Ellis, Bryan Hitch, and Paul NearyWell I was pipped to the post yesterday as they say, yet on reflection, as I look at the covers on GCD, I realise that the second arc spoke to me more. This issue started the story of the Shiftships, essentially an invasion from an alternate earth, well thats it, I'm gone. Superheroes...check (mate big fat fricking check indeed) Alternate worlds...check Kick-ass art...checkarooni DubipR said it all so much more eloquently than this ole 'fulla has it in him to do. I didnt hear "widescreen " for years, though it fits, but its comics man, they're all "widescreen". Marvel might be killing it at the box-office now, but Jack Effing Kirby did WIDESCREEN a few years before and no-one took any notice. Bugger, I'm meant to be supporting my case, not tearing it down. I just plain old dug these books, I grokked them big time, they spoke to my inner geek in his language, dude they were effing cool (sorry,but sometimes anglo-saxon IS appropriate). How cool were these members, Apollo and Midnighter became the best couple in comics, Jenny Sparks, the Doctor (and Stephen Strange is meant to be the best, I think not). Ellis gave us archetypal characters that started to live up to potential, and I was there... Then REAL LIFE happens, another child, another mouth to feed, no discretionary budget, comics get the axe...but I was there, I saw it start, I saw the potential and it was good. This was just one of those books/stories that stick with you, dont let go, nag at you all the time and Im so happy I listened.
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Post by metarog on Dec 19, 2014 21:26:39 GMT -5
6. Captain America #176 Marvel
This was not my usual type of comic book story… or so I thought! However, it is in my opinion one of the best scripted stories that Marvel ever put out. There are no fight scenes or really any type of “action” that was prevalent at the time. What it does have is a decision from Cap that shocked and inspired me. You have to read the Secret Empire storyline and especially the prior issue to really understand all the dialogue here but even as a stand alone issue it is a real gem. Essentially Steve Rogers decides to give up being Cap after realizing he could be identified as part of a corrupt and immoral system. It is based strongly on the Nixon administration although that is never explicitly referenced. Cap talks to various friends regarding this decision but ultimately cannot continue considering the fiasco he witnessed in the Secret Empire storyline. He is obviously very torn and anguished over this and this comes through in the brooding atmosphere of the issue. This is not an uplifting tale by any means but it is impactful and insightful. It is one of my favorites for showing me that principles should never be compromised even at great personal cost.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 19, 2014 21:50:07 GMT -5
Creeping in the shadows and alleyways of my youth.... we move to the year 1995 for this selection Number 6STRAY BULLETS #4Year of Publication: June 1995 Written & Drawn by: David Lapham Synopsis: Young Virginia "Ginny" Applejack has run away from home due to the events that happened in prior issues. She is picked up by a gentleman name Paul Barrow. Ginny tells Paul she doesn't want to go home and wants to see the world. Paul tells her that he's related to the infamous Clyde Barrow and tells her that he's a robber. Ginny's hesitant in believing him as he looks he her in a lecherous way, but doesn't do anything from keeping her from running. Paul speaks the truth as he shows Ginny a sack full of cash and a gun. The two travel down the highway and slowly become friendly with each other. Ginny wants to be a robber now, as they pull into a gas station. She wants to rob but Paul tells her to write a note to slip to the attendant. She stays in the car as Paul goes in... and then comes out with more cash. More travelling down the road with Paul and Ginny, as Paul's true intention is revealed in this issue. One of the best, if not, the best issue, in Lapham's opus. Why This Is A Classic: David Lapham's crime noir book hit the comics market when I was in college and hit at the right time. With the speculation market and the Bad Grrl craze booming, Lapham's book was the counterweight of everything that was good in the 90s. Self-published and something that wasn't in the market at the time. It was simple back to basic storytelling of crime comics, but set in the 70s and 80s. Each story kept the reader in suspense. Critics will spout how wonderful Brubaker's Criminal series or 100 Bullets, but none of them hold a candle to Stray Bullets. When this was coming out, in college, and before I devoured a steady diet of crime novels, noir films and old time radio programs. Having something akin to all of that wrapped up in 22 pages was a great second course to balance out my superhero reading. Each issue were done in one, but some of the characters would show up down the line. Primarily the series focused on Ginny Applejack, but this issue is the standout.
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Post by Calamas on Dec 19, 2014 21:56:41 GMT -5
John Sable 1 (First Comics June '83) This is number one of two in my evolution from following characters (and focusing almost exclusively on the Big Two) to following creators and stories and branching out my reading. This one didn't quite make the break that the one that will come later did. I was a huge fan of Warlord. So when Grell went to First I sampled Starslayer...but Sable really caught my attention. It was the right mix of different from Super-heroes with a bit of that same aesthetic to really draw me in. I still leaned heavily toward super-heroes and DC and Marvel for a few more years. But Sable was the gateway into a wider world. This was one of my choices I thought I would be alone in picking. Great minds. . . . Also a Warlord fan. In fact, with the next to last cut I dropped Warlord #13, "The Hunter"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 22:35:36 GMT -5
Day 7 brings us Pick #6 Cerebus #57"Suddenly, Sophia" Artist/Writer - Dave Sim Backgrounds - Gerhard We're doing individual issues, not series or story arcs. But I had to get Cerebus on this list somehow. And this one issue was especially satisfying, once I got to read it. I started buying Cerebus early on, around issue #9, and quickly got all the back issues. Loved the little runt, and I enjoyed the parodies of other characters - Elrod/Elric, Cockroach/Batman, and especially Red Sophia/Red Sonja. But something about issues 23 & 24, a two-parter called 'The Beguiling,' rubbed me the wrong way. Couldn't define it then, can't now. But those 2 issues turned me off the book, and I dropped it. Of course, right after that, #26 began the 'High Society' arc, regarded by many (including me) as the high point of the whole 300 issue run. That's the way my world works. I heard rumblings in the fan press about how good the book had gotten, but I ignored them because . . . well, because I'm an idiot. Towards the end of 'Church & State' I finally gave in and tried the book again. And I loved it. What had started as a barbarian comedy had evolved into a complex, layered, multi-issue tale about religion and politics, faith and greed, users and pawns and pawns becoming users. It was awesome. It was also confusing as hell, since I'd missed a lot. (Dave Sim did not do recaps, eh?) And so began the quest to fill in those gaps. I have never enjoyed the back issue hunt as much as I enjoyed getting those Cerebus issues. Not only was I completing a set, I was putting together the story like a huge, sprawling jigsaw puzzle. Two of the biggest questions I had were how did Cerebus end up married to Red Sophia, and how was Weisshaupt able to manipulate the aardvark? So I was out of town for work, and of course I hit the LCS. And Cerebus #57 was there. I picked it up, and read it that night while my roommate watched TV. Or tried too; my laughter and gasping and 'holy shit' s distracted him enough to ask what I was reading. I tried explaining, how this was a long-running story, how I'd missed some bits, how this one issue was answering a lot of my questions (all while being funny as hell). He was a good guy; he nodded, bemused, and went back to his TV.
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Post by benday-dot on Dec 19, 2014 23:33:11 GMT -5
# 6 Vampirella #47 (Warren) The comic book magazine, black and white. It is a format all but extinct now in which to give us graphic storytelling. One time it proliferated and seemed to beckon a new, perhaps more mature, age for the funny book. I remain a bit skeptical about the mature part, but the fact is my collection would be so much poorer if it was lacking in the comic book magazine. Today I have boxes and boxes of magazines and so too my list would be the poorer for it if I left out an example of the venerable black and white 'zine. There was always something of the "top of the rack" to Vampirella, and a little of the just south, or north, depending on your perspective, of sleaze to the character. That's part of the charm to me. But so is the great and lurid cover copy that invariably appeared on these books. Very pulpish and evocative. And very 70's. And let's not forget the great Enrich covers. Enrich Torres, more than any other artist came to define the glossy exterior of Vampy. I've got almost a whole run of Vampirella, but it was the era of the title that started the investment in the talent of the Spanish artists that most seemed to define the series' aesthetic. This one's a corker of an issue: Gonzalo Mayo, Luis-Garcia, Torrents and Auraleon and Bermejo all do stellar work. There may be better issues of Vampirella, and I certainly have better magazines overall in my collection, but Vampirella #47 is almost intangibly emblematic to me.
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Post by foxley on Dec 20, 2014 0:23:08 GMT -5
#6. Suicide Squad #1
Synopsis: Amanda Waller organizes a mission to take down the Jihad before they can attack the U.S. Why I chose it: If most comic collectors are anything like me (a terrifying thought, I know) then they will a series that they regard as 'their series': a series that was never incredibly popular, but which they loved, and which they got in on the ground floor of, following it all the way to cancellation. Suicide Squad is 'my series'. Suicide Squad offered up an exciting mix of action and espionage, combined with some deep emotional involvement. The fact that these were characters that no one cared up freed John Ostrander to do what he wanted with them. He added real depth to what had previously been cardboard characters (pretty much everything about Deadshot's personality was created by Ostrander in this series). And he made you care about these characters while never letting you forget that these were horrible, and/or severely damaged, individuals. And he created a fantastic supporting cast, including Amanda Waller (the real Amanda Waller, not the waifish supermodel who appears in the New 52). When it was cancelled, I cursed the narrow-mindedness of the suits in the corporate who cared only about money and not story-telling, and the stupidity of fanboys who wouldn't know quality comics if they bit them on the arse and only wanted to read about Wolverine clones. So, Suicide Squad = 'my series'. Dont curse me brother, i bought every issue of that sucker I could get my sweaty little 'fulla hands on. Consider yourself uncursed. Always happy to meet another Squadophile. And, lest anyone take offence, my comment was not really intended to be a jab at fandom is general. It was just my attempt at expressing the frustration any comics fan must feel when their favourite title is cancelled, while other titles that you regard as drek with no redeeming qualities whatsoever just keep going and going and going.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 0:33:38 GMT -5
#6: The Incredible Hulk Annual #5 (Marvel, 1976) The next three comics on my list come exclusively via my experience with what I like to call "Manuel's stash". Manuel was friends with my Dad in the 80's. He was this tall, burly biker dude that had a room full to the brim with fireworks. This was a guy that loved to blow stuff up, and his 4th of July party's were extreme. Anyways, my parents would often visit Manuel's place, and I would come along for the ride. They would do their visiting while I ran amok outside. The only rule that Manuel had, quite seriously, was that I never go into the fireworks room. "You could blow yourself up", he'd add. This "room" was actually a walk-in closet attached to the garage. On one of these occasions, I did get bored and wandered around. My parents and their friends were knee-deep into drinking and card games, and I had been riding my bike outside. The garage was open, so I came in through there and noticed the firework room door was open as well. Manuel had hundreds of fireworks of all shapes and sizes. All I wanted to do was peek inside. Curiosity got the best of me and I wandered inside. Along with the fireworks, he also had a bookshelf full of Playboys, High Times, Biker mags and...comics. He had about a dozen comics on the shelf, mostly Giant-sizes and Annuals, all Marvel, all 70's. The comics had my interest, so I pulled them and started checking them out. That's when I heard Manuel yell "What are you doing?!" from the doorway. I thought I was in big trouble. But instead, he said "You found the good stuff!" and told me how he used to love comics and these were some of his favorites. He said I could keep them, but only if I promised never to go into the fireworks room again. He then grabbed a few fireworks and we proceeded to light them in the street. I was around nine or ten at the time. Awesome dude. Hulk Annual #5 was in Manuel's stash, which he gave to me. No comic better solidifies my love for the Hulk than this one. Six monsters vs. the Hulk, plain and simple. It's just a one after the other battle of the beasts. After Hulk defeats one, another attacks. There's Diablo, Taboo, Groot, Goom, Blip and Titan. Each fight is unique, but make no bones about it, Hulk smashes each and every foe in a dominate performance. At the end, he simply says "Hulk is the STRONGEST one there is!". 'Nuff said. Manuel was right. I did get blown away. But thankfully, it wasn't by his fireworks.
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 20, 2014 0:37:54 GMT -5
1985. Not that weird mini-series Marvel put out a couple years ago, but the actual 1985. I was 12 and had been reading comics for less than a year. Anything I could find, I bought and read. Content barely mattered, I was just enamored with the art form. So I found myself regularly buying series that I didn't actually like. One of them in particular should have appealed to me, given the core concept, but I just could not get it - the art was inscrutable, the story obtuse, the characters weird. But I kept buying it, just because. And then I was rewarded with an issue that blew my mind: 6. New Mutants Special Edition #1My first Marvel comic was Thor, and in my early reading days, I was much more into fantasy and sci-fi comics than superhero. This issue of New Mutants was like an ultimate wish fulfillment story: Kids, just like me, who suddenly get sent to Asgard, where they encounter all sorts of amazing things, like trolls and werewolf kings and dwarf princesses and fairies and valkyries and demons. It was also a great compliment to the Thor stuff Walt Simonson was doing at the time, because here we get to not only see what's going on in the rest of the Nine Realms, we also get to see the daily life of the people there. Thor, after all, is a comic about the prince. All of his friends are royalty, nobility, legends, heroes. Sometimes, as a result, Asgard doesn't seem like a real place, with people living in it. It just seems like a cool sound stage designed by Kirby - beautiful but empty. Not here. Here it feels like a real place; or rather, a lot of real places. But the main draw, pun half intended, is the art by Art Adams. It's mind blowing. I had never seen anything like it. Neither, apparently, had the new generation of artists coming up at the time like McFarlane and Lee, who blatantly emulated Art Adams at every turn in a failed attempt to capture his magic. Art Adams wouldn't turn out a lot of work in his early days in comics, because he was so slow; and later, he would become more cartoony. But here he delivers a pitch perfect comic, which I consider to be his masterpiece. Imagine being a kid and opening a comic and seeing this as the first page: What a great comic!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 20, 2014 9:39:29 GMT -5
#6 Avengers #1 Vol. 3 Writer: Kurt Busiek Artist: George Perez epic untitled cover version: Plot: Morgan Le Fey is atacking the Avengers, so they assemble to figure out what's going on. This comic could almost have been blank inside and made the list... this cover is AMAZING. I'll be honest, I don't remember it that well ,but in theory... is was the first comic I had a 'mark out' moment on.. Busiek and Perez on Avengers, and no more Heroes Reborn? I was practically jumping up and down when I saw this cover. Then, throw in the fact that Justice and Firestar (My favorite couple in comics) get promoted? Yes, please! The last page with the roster of the new team, is amazing.... YOu have the standard Cap 'Avengers Assemble' pose, which is great anyway, and Justice in the corner looking like he just won the lottery... one of my favorite group shots ever.
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