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Post by coke & comics on Jun 13, 2014 22:54:30 GMT -5
Even with a top ten list, I still left off several Moore stories I love, including his Omega Men and Green Lantern Corps backups, his Superman stories, D.R. & Quinch, 1963, etc.
Man he's a great writer.
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Post by berkley on Jun 13, 2014 23:37:36 GMT -5
Top 5 Jim Shooter stories 1. Mordru the Merciless from Adventure Comics #369 & 370 (also my favorite Legion story ever) 2. Fatal Five/ Death of Ferro Lad from Adventure Comics #352 & 353 3. Superman's Race With the Flash from Superman #199 4. Korvac Saga from Avengers #167-177 5. Superman and Batman...Brothers from World's Finest #172 I've never read any of Shooter's work for DC but I think it would have been better for all concerned if he had stayed there. I think his way of looking at things, both as a writer and as a management guy, was more suited to that company and its characters, and the Nefaria story shows that, like so many comics writers, he really wanted to be writing Superman all along. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 0:07:00 GMT -5
For the Shooter stuff, I would rate the Bride of Ultron (Avengers 160-162) above the Korvac saga for his Avengers stuff, and probably #1 on my list.
-M
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Post by berkley on Jun 14, 2014 0:22:35 GMT -5
For the Shooter stuff, I would rate the Bride of Ultron (Avengers 160-162) above the Korvac saga for his Avengers stuff, and probably #1 on my list. -M I probably would as well, but I suspect that's largely because Perez was able to do the artwork for the entire Ultron story, unlike the Korvac. Without Perez's artwork Shooter's story suddenly seemed to lose a lot of its attraction for me, which was my first clue that perhaps he wasn't quite as good a writer as I'd previously thought. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jun 14, 2014 9:02:32 GMT -5
Even with a top ten list, I still left off several Moore stories I love, including his Omega Men and Green Lantern Corps backups, his Superman stories, D.R. & Quinch, 1963, etc. Man he's a great writer. Omega Men? Like around the 80's series? It's the one I've got but I'm not at home to check. If so I read it all and either forgot he wrote it or never looked. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 14, 2014 9:19:52 GMT -5
For the Shooter stuff, I would rate the Bride of Ultron (Avengers 160-162) above the Korvac saga for his Avengers stuff, and probably #1 on my list. -M I probably would as well, but I suspect that's largely because Perez was able to do the artwork for the entire Ultron story, unlike the Korvac. Without Perez's artwork Shooter's story suddenly seemed to lose a lot of its attraction for me, which was my first clue that perhaps he wasn't quite as good a writer as I'd previously thought. Art is very important to stories but I think that Shooter crafted nice sagas without A list artists. The Fall of Hank Pym had dreadful art at the start and much of his Valiant Stuff had average to beginner level work. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 14, 2014 9:21:07 GMT -5
Top 5 Jim Shooter stories 1. Mordru the Merciless from Adventure Comics #369 & 370 (also my favorite Legion story ever) 2. Fatal Five/ Death of Ferro Lad from Adventure Comics #352 & 353 3. Superman's Race With the Flash from Superman #199 4. Korvac Saga from Avengers #167-177 5. Superman and Batman...Brothers from World's Finest #172 I've never read any of Shooter's work for DC but I think it would have been better for all concerned if he had stayed there. I think his way of looking at things, both as a writer and as a management guy, was more suited to that company and its characters, and the Nefaria story shows that, like so many comics writers, he really wanted to be writing Superman all along. I will admit that I started to be aware of Shooters work after he landed at Marvel. I guess I missed out on the Legion stories. |
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Post by Action Ace on Jun 14, 2014 10:27:03 GMT -5
I've never read any of Shooter's work for DC but I think it would have been better for all concerned if he had stayed there. I think his way of looking at things, both as a writer and as a management guy, was more suited to that company and its characters, and the Nefaria story shows that, like so many comics writers, he really wanted to be writing Superman all along. I will admit that I started to be aware of Shooters work after he landed at Marvel. I guess I missed out on the Legion stories. It's close, but I think he may actually have more writing credits at DC now than Marvel with that last Legion run. |
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Post by coke & comics on Jun 14, 2014 10:32:23 GMT -5
Even with a top ten list, I still left off several Moore stories I love, including his Omega Men and Green Lantern Corps backups, his Superman stories, D.R. & Quinch, 1963, etc. Man he's a great writer. Omega Men? Like around the 80's series? It's the one I've got but I'm not at home to check. If so I read it all and either forgot he wrote it or never looked. He only wrote a couple backup stories. But they were excellent. One about a scientist learning how aliens reproduce and another about a war against stone giants with a different perception of time. |
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Post by thebeastofyuccaflats on Jun 14, 2014 11:27:27 GMT -5
Top Ten Alan Moore blah blah blah
1. From Hell
2. Top 10/Smax
3. Miracleman
4. Watchmen
5. LOEG (vol. 1)
6. The Ballad Of Halo Jones
7. Swamp Thing
8. Promethea
9. Tomorrow Stories
10. Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow?
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jun 14, 2014 18:09:48 GMT -5
I've been thinking for a while about 3 songs/classical pieces that you would never tire of. If there were only these 3 and no other music you could listen to what would they be.
Mine ....
Purple Rain -- Prince
Crimson & Clover -- Tommy James & the Shondells
Moonlight Sonata -- Beethoven
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Post by MDG on Jun 14, 2014 18:58:37 GMT -5
Crimson & Clover -- Tommy James & the Shondells I had a real urge to hear the long version the other night. |
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Post by coke & comics on Jun 19, 2014 22:50:04 GMT -5
Best and worst adaptations of comic characters to screen in superhero movies:
Best:
1. Michael Fassbender as Magneto
2. JK Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson
3. Tom Hiddleston as Loki
4. Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man
5. Mark Ruffalo as Hulk
Worst:
1. Julian McMahon as Dr. Doom
2. Jessica Alba as Invisible Woman
3. Jennifer Garner as Elektra
4. Ben Affleck as Daredevil
5. George Clooney as Batman
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 0:08:47 GMT -5
Worst comic character castings...movie or television
Eric Allen Kramer as Thor (Incredible Hulk Returns)
Rex Smith as Daredevil (The Trial of the Incredible Hulk)
Brandon Routh as Superman
David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury
Halle Berry as Storm
Halle Berry as Catwoman
Kevin Sorbo as Kull
Dolph Lundgren as the Punisher
David Odger Stiers as the Martian Manhunter
Topher Grace as Eddie Brock/Venom
-M
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Post by Pharozonk on Jun 20, 2014 8:39:20 GMT -5
Best and worst adaptations of comic characters to screen in superhero movies: Best: 1. Michael Fassbender as Magneto 2. JK Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson 3. Tom Hiddleston as Loki 4. Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man 5. Mark Ruffalo as Hulk Worst: 1. Julian McMahon as Dr. Doom 2. Jessica Alba as Invisible Woman 3. Jennifer Garner as Elektra 4. Ben Affleck as Daredevil 5. George Clooney as Batman No love for Patrick Stewart or James McAvoy as Professor X? |
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