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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 2, 2015 19:31:46 GMT -5
Very interesting idea for a thread, Shax!
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Post by benday-dot on Feb 2, 2015 20:25:41 GMT -5
Beyond the fact that, as many of you know, Doug is my favorite writer in all of comicdom, he was also likely the most published writer in all of comidom, touching a plethora of titles and franchises between the 1970s and 1990s. Whatever your favorite character or title, there's a good chance Doug wrote for it at some point. Most writers/historians of comics give the title of most most published or prolific writer in comicdom to Joe Gill, veteran Charlton scribe. Though Stan Lee would be up there too. Not sure where Doug Moench would place, but it would be high. Having gotten my unpardonable nitpicking out of the way... you have gotten yourself a BIG project here sir, but it is great one and in very good hands... and off to fine start. Very good review of Snow Job. Also... Happy Birthday Shaxper. |
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Post by earl on Feb 2, 2015 21:16:54 GMT -5
I'd have to figure that Doug Moench is one of the most prolific Batman writers from 'New Look' to present. I'd figure he had at least 10 years of regularly writing a Batman title, not to mention all of the mini-series and other stories he did.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 23:19:01 GMT -5
Doug Moench's greatest creation with the help of Chuck Dixon and Graham Nolan - CREATED BANE!  His stories involving Bane with Batman are legendary and that's one of the many reasons that I admire his work as a writer and a creator. I hope that you includes him along the way and I will be more than interested in reading your take of this character in a whole. |
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Post by shaxper on Feb 3, 2015 5:48:44 GMT -5
Bane's a long way off, of course, created in the mid 1990s, but I hope to get there eventually.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 3, 2015 10:38:39 GMT -5
Doug Moench's greatest creation with the help of Chuck Dixon and Graham Nolan - CREATED BANE! His stories involving Bane with Batman are legendary and that's one of the many reasons that I admire his work as a writer and a creator. I hope that you includes him along the way and I will be more than interested in reading your take of this character in a whole. I'm not sure it's humanly possible to disagree more with a post than I disagree with this one. The only good thing I can say about Bane is that at least he's not Doomsday. |
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Post by Confessor on Feb 3, 2015 10:53:52 GMT -5
Good idea for a thread. I'm not hugely well read where Doug Moench is concerned, but comics he's written that I own and have enjoyed include Six from Sirius, Slash Maraud, Batman & Dracula: Red Rain, and The Big Book of Conspiracies. Looking foward to reading your thoughts on his work.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Feb 3, 2015 14:26:24 GMT -5
Doug Moench's greatest creation with the help of Chuck Dixon and Graham Nolan - CREATED BANE! His stories involving Bane with Batman are legendary and that's one of the many reasons that I admire his work as a writer and a creator. I hope that you includes him along the way and I will be more than interested in reading your take of this character in a whole. I'm not sure it's humanly possible to disagree more with a post than I disagree with this one. The only good thing I can say about Bane is that at least he's not Doomsday. Slam, I couldnt agree more, from the moment I first encountered him I have loathed every aspect of the character, and the less said about the awfulnessity of KnightsEnd etc the better. As for Mr Moench, I always found him to be a solid, entertaining writer, not my favourite, but good. However MOKF is a work of art. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 3, 2015 14:46:49 GMT -5
I always respected Moench's work. I thought that what he was doing with Batman in the Don Newton/Gene Colan era was quite good. I like Master of Kung Fu a lot.
I think my favorite work of his is Aztec Ace, though I haven't read it in eons.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 15:52:21 GMT -5
Moench created and wrote a lot of multi-layered, rich, complex characters over the years, Bane is not one of them; he is a one-note plot device.
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Post by paulie on Feb 3, 2015 15:54:30 GMT -5
I've thought of doing a similar thread with John Ostrander. But I'm bad about keeping up with review threads. Looking forward this one. Ostrander deserves it. |
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Post by badwolf on Feb 3, 2015 15:58:49 GMT -5
Bane always seemed to me something like Venom, a product of the 90s "super-badass" villain trend. (Yeah, I know all villains are meant to be a credible threat, but the steroid junkie look makes it seem like it's trying too hard.)
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Post by Phil Maurice on Feb 3, 2015 16:38:05 GMT -5
Do I have anything nice to say about Bane? Hmm. He was originally voiced by the wonderful Henry Silva (The Manchurian Candidate, Sharkey's Machine) in two of my favorite episodes of TNBA (Over the Edge) and S:TAS (Knight Time), both of which use the character to great effect, imo.
As for Moench creations which I feel a greater affinity for, I would probably choose Moon Knight or Deathlok. His work on those characters really grabbed me at the time, and returning to the material decades later, I was pleasantly surprised to find it still engaging, exciting, and entertaining. |
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Post by earl on Feb 3, 2015 18:45:19 GMT -5
I think some of the things you guys don't like about Bane are the things I like. It's very 90s, but then again Power Man and Iron Fist are very 70s. I think expanding on the 'Venom' story by Denny O'Neil and having a villain that used PED's to basically make himself superhuman was pretty spot on choice for the time. It's a huge story and parts of it don't quite gell, but overall I thought the whole Knights' saga was pretty good. It's definitely one of the better big crossovers, probably in Batman only second to No Man's Land for me. I thought the follow up story with Bane and Ra's Al Ghul which I think was mostly by Chuck Dixon was even better. AFter that I think Bane lost a bit of momentum, but Gail Simone updated the character and used it pretty well in Secret Six. I even like the Lucha Libre mask.
I haven't read tons of 90s super hero comics, but I think Batman was generally pretty good.
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Post by fanboystranger on Feb 3, 2015 18:56:07 GMT -5
Beyond the fact that, as many of you know, Doug is my favorite writer in all of comicdom, he was also likely the most published writer in all of comidom, touching a plethora of titles and franchises between the 1970s and 1990s. Whatever your favorite character or title, there's a good chance Doug wrote for it at some point. Most writers/historians of comics give the title of most most published or prolific writer in comicdom to Joe Gill, veteran Charlton scribe. Though Stan Lee would be up there too. Not sure where Doug Moench would place, but it would be high. Gotta think Pat Mills would be up there, too. 40+ years in the business, multiple projects running at any given time. |
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