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Post by shaxper on May 26, 2014 8:20:31 GMT -5
Overpriced? Hmm how about Batman Death in the family arc from the 80's or even the Year One arc from the same period. I managed to get my single issues for both runs at around $2-3 per book. But I see collections of all 4 for each going as high as $30-40 or more! Yes they are classic but again, a very available time period and I always see these issues around (I now pick them up and sell them because they fetch online). Also overpriced is Miller's Dark Knight run. Again, managed to find #2,3 and 4 for around $2 each but finding the first issue is seeming impossible unless I wanna spend $60-100! It's odd. These books were all overpriced in the '90s, but I found them all in discount bins about a decade ago and picked them up for a few dollars apiece. Now they're all selling for big money again. I'm particularly surprised by Death in the Family -- which I'm seeing sell for $25 an issue. Why? Jason Todd came back after all, he wasn't the only Robin to die, and he's not the most memorable of the Robins to most (though he is to me). Is it just pure nostalgia for how big a deal that run USED to be?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 9:55:55 GMT -5
Some of the most over-valued back issues that come to mind for me: - Silver Surfer #4 ("low print run" back then meant 300,000 copies. That doesn't make an otherwise unremarkable book worth $100+) - Incredible Hulk # 181 (I could spend all day arguing this one, but I won't. You guys can go there if you like) - Batman #100 (I'm seriously lost as to what makes this book worth $500+ other than the fact that it's #100) Hulk #181 gets the prize because it's the first full-appearance of Wolverine compared to just a cameo in the final panel (I think) of the preceding issue. Has a one-panel debut of anyone else ever increased the value of a book?
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Post by Crimebuster on May 26, 2014 12:00:19 GMT -5
Some of the most over-valued back issues that come to mind for me: - Silver Surfer #4 ("low print run" back then meant 300,000 copies. That doesn't make an otherwise unremarkable book worth $100+) - Incredible Hulk # 181 (I could spend all day arguing this one, but I won't. You guys can go there if you like) - Batman #100 (I'm seriously lost as to what makes this book worth $500+ other than the fact that it's #100) Hulk #181 gets the prize because it's the first full-appearance of Wolverine compared to just a cameo in the final panel (I think) of the preceding issue. Has a one-panel debut of anyone else ever increased the value of a book? There have been far less complete first appearances that have moved the needle more than #180. #180 is just one panel, but it has everything - full body shot and name. Compare to Man of Steel #17, the "first appearance" of Doomsday, which has a couple panels of a fist punching a wall. Or the people speculating on Captain America #359 for the "first appearance" of Crossbones, who is in one panel, unnamed, in silhouette, meaning he could literally be anybody in the MU. Some people are even bumping the price of Swamp Thing #25, which has one panel where Sting appears in the background, because the Sting cameo was later retconned into an appearance by John Constantine. So speculators will drive up the price of any stupid thing they can think of. For me, Hulk #180 is undervalued compared to #181, as it's an actual first appearance. And that's not even getting into things like More Fun #51 or Gobbledygook #1, which have seen increased prices due to advertisements for new characters set to appear in future comics.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on May 26, 2014 12:14:49 GMT -5
I recently sold Batman #358 for $30 online. It was 6.0-7.0 grade and had first appearance of Croc and Jason Todd. Croc is in a trench coat the entire time and you never even see his face or name published. Jason Todd is barely in it either. I saw this issue at a local shop a few years back and grabbed it for a couple bucks then. When I saw how is was selling (and considered that I didnt love it enough), I decided to sell and put them money towards something better.
That would be my example of an issue with a couple panel appearances that seems to be driving up prices.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 13:56:53 GMT -5
Not much of the more expensive comics I buy really have an established value. They're the type of things that pop up maybe once a year or less. There's a handful of people trying to sell Raw magazines for far more than anyone is willing to pay, since they've been consistently relisted for a couple years now. I've bought issues for between $20-$40, which was probably a bit low. People are trying (and failing) to sell copies for $100-$300. So I'd say they're probably worth somewhere around $60-$80 each.
What seems to be super low is the old Fangraphix fanzine. It's four issues long, the first two being magazine sized and the final two being comic book sized. They are the first work of Tony Caputo and Marc Hansen. It's the predecessor of NOW comics. It's the first appearance of Ralph Snart, which was almost a huge property at one point. It was the main event of NOW comics, selling higher numbers than The Real Ghostbusters. And the entire series can be bought for about $8.
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Post by thecolortechnic on May 27, 2014 20:28:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2014 20:41:50 GMT -5
Have no idea, maybe a bug in its pricing/stock algorithm? A NM copy can be found on Chuck's site for a twenty. I'm glad I bought the majority of my silver-age Spideys from 2003-2012...prices now for higher-grade issues are tough on the buyer.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2014 23:14:27 GMT -5
Must be a glitch. They have a copy on eBay for $68 when you can buy the whole set for $8 from multiple other sellers right next to it.
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Post by benday-dot on May 28, 2014 20:28:53 GMT -5
Speculation is just out of control these days. Just about any first appearance - except, of course Tim Drake - seems to be going crazy because people are hoping the character will end up in a movie. So there are tons of books I thnk are way overpriced right now. The first appearances of Rocket Raccoon and Starlord being prime examples 1 and 2. I agree Scott, this annoys me greatly too. I was picking away at a run of Daredevil and hit an unexpected roadblock when it came to issue #111. It turns this is the first appearance of the Silver Samurai. I may be out of the loop in the current MU, but is this really a big deal? Is this spike really just due to the character's appearance in a semi-mediocre Wolverine movie? Does he have any other significant purchase or importance in the MU. I'll skip this issue rather than pay anything ridiculous for a comic just because it features the rather forgettable Silver Samurai.
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Post by shaxper on May 28, 2014 20:41:42 GMT -5
Back when I was working on my Batman run, I had immense trouble getting the Ras Al Ghul issues affordably in the wake of Batman Begins.
I wonder, though, how much of it is really speculation, and how much is just collectors going "Oh yeah. I really SHOULD have those issues. The movie reminded me how awesome that character is."
After all, all it takes is a glance at the Mini Reviews thread to find us reading through old Star-Lord and Rocket Raccoon issues now that Guardians of the Galaxy is coming out. The films rekindle interest in old properties.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 28, 2014 22:41:42 GMT -5
Speculation is just out of control these days. Just about any first appearance - except, of course Tim Drake - seems to be going crazy because people are hoping the character will end up in a movie. So there are tons of books I thnk are way overpriced right now. The first appearances of Rocket Raccoon and Starlord being prime examples 1 and 2. I agree Scott, this annoys me greatly too. I was picking away at a run of Daredevil and hit an unexpected roadblock when it came to issue #111. It turns this is the first appearance of the Silver Samurai. I may be out of the loop in the current MU, but is this really a big deal? Is this spike really just due to the character's appearance in a semi-mediocre Wolverine movie? Does he have any other significant purchase or importance in the MU. I'll skip this issue rather than pay anything ridiculous for a comic just because it features the rather forgettable Silver Samurai. I'm sure that was just a movie bump.. a quick e-bay search shows a 'buy it now' for 9.95, but others for a couple hundred. I expect it popped for the movie and is on the way back to where it belongs.
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Post by Crimebuster on May 29, 2014 2:48:47 GMT -5
Yeah, it got a major bump in the months before Wolverine came out. Then - SPOILERS! - it turned out "Silver Samurai" in the movie was just a big robot exoskeleton thing. Turns out, nobody cares about Silver Samurai post movie any more than they did pre movie. I think the book still has some residual price bump from that big lead up, but it's definitely cooled way off.
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Post by superecwfan1 on May 29, 2014 6:43:21 GMT -5
Funniest thing about that Tales of the Teen Titans #44. When I 1st started collecting years ago , Krogers (a grocery store chain) had comics on their shelves. It was the early 1990's and I had just started collecting. They had those 3 books in a bag for whatever price there was. And usually you'd find one good book you really needed at times. Marvel was also selling 4 books for $5 bucks in a collectible case if anyone remembers that. Out of that I got Incredible Hulk #389 , #393 , #400 and #405 as issues. All 1st print issues.
So going to Tales of the Teen Titans #44. I got one of those grab bag deals and bought it. Never realizing at the time what I bought. Inside the middle book was a Tales of the Teen Titans #44.....1st print. It remains one of the weirdest things to see DC put in those bags. I won't complain as later as i learned more about comics I did a holy fuck at what I had.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 13:05:01 GMT -5
This thread has a lot of unrealized potential in my opinion. I'll probably make some comments within the next several days.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 13:41:21 GMT -5
Have no idea, maybe a bug in its pricing/stock algorithm? A NM copy can be found on Chuck's site for a twenty. I'm glad I bought the majority of my silver-age Spideys from 2003-2012...prices now for higher-grade issues are tough on the buyer. Interestingly, this issue is now $9 at mycomicshop.com
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