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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 28, 2015 19:41:47 GMT -5
Thanks, b-d, but such a companion book should really be something for Roy Thomas to write!
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Post by benday-dot on Apr 29, 2015 19:25:53 GMT -5
That would be great, but I'm not sure if the Rascally One would have your critical voice. That's what is great about your reviews, they offer the warts and all, the good and the bad of Savage Sword. I am of the opinion there is more good than bad, as I am sure, you are, but while Thomas is a font of knowledge, and would bring a wealth of insider anecdote,he would probably be a bit sheepish about calling out some his colleagues failings in their handling of the work of REH.
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Post by Rob Allen on Apr 29, 2015 19:46:57 GMT -5
Roy is also way too busy for another book project. He's had to reduce Alter Ego to 7 issues this year instead of the usual 8 so he can get the Stan Lee book out, and then the 2 1940s books he's doing with Kurt, and the Taschen and PS books he consults on, and the Spider-Man newspaper strip. Besides, you've already written the book. Your reviews in this thread could be published as is. Some anecdotes from Roy would be icing on the cake.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 2, 2015 10:55:05 GMT -5
Savage sword of Conan # 96, January 1984 Cover by Joe Jusko, featuring the Devourer of souls that we meet again in thjis issue. Conan looks well-oiled, here... maybe all those worms are very slimy? The inside front and back covers are occupied by an Ernie Chan drawing done in a very loose style. It's a pity that we have to remove the books' staples to be able to see it in its entirety. This is an interesting technique for Ernie. Table of contents:The ape-bat of Marmet Tarn! with the return of Wrarrl, the devourer of souls, introduced in issue #90. The Gary Kwapisz portfolio, taking us nearer to the day the artist would be ready to become the mag's main contributor.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 2, 2015 10:55:46 GMT -5
SSoC #96------------ The ape-bat of Marmet tarn!Script by Michael Fleisher Artwork by John Buscema and Rudy Nebres I learned a new word, thanks to this issue: "tarn", which is a mountain lake or pool. That's not quite how it's shown in this issue, where it looks like a large lake far away from any mountain, but I'm still grateful for the addition to my vocabulary. The artwork is very nice; Nebres is an inker I was really fond of in the 80s when it came to fantasy stories. (Remember his John Carter or Weirdworld work?) I'm sure Buscema would have said his inking ill-served his pencils, but in my opinion the combination gives something beautiful. This story packs a particularly strong emotional punch with its dramatic denouement. Good job on Fleisher's part! Its female protagonist may have the look of a generic Hyborian age woman, but she shows a personality more original than what we're used to in these pages. The tale is set right after SSoC#90, "Devourer of souls", the story that introduced the otherworldly Wrarrl, that ebon-clad inhuman giant who turns men's souls into worms and eats them. We thought he had been slain at the end of issue 90, but here we learn how he escaped that final fate. (Can't keep a good villain down in comics!) Conan has apparently given up leading mercenary armies for the time being, and as the story opens he enters a very quiet Corinthian town. As he waters his hard-working mare, the Cimmerian is abruptly attacked by a giant winged ape equipped with fangs a foot long! Managing to cause the beast to retreat thanks to a vigorous defense, the barbarian collapses, exhausted. The local townsfolk eventually come out of hiding and explain that the flying creature has been preying on them for a long while, slaying people to assuage its unholy appetite. Since the Cimmerian managed to hold his own against it, they hire him to hunt it down. Meanwhile, Wrarrl the devourer reappears on our plane of existence. Instead of dying in a flash of light, as we thought had happened at the end of SSoC#90, the demon had briefly transferred himself to a parallel world before returning to our own, severely weakened. Quickly recovering by turning anyone he encounters into soul worms and consuming them, Wrarrl sets on a new mission. As you may recall, his goal last time had been to use a certain magical gem (in collaboration with a wizard) to open a gateway between his world and ours, heralding an otherdimensional invasion. The problem last time was that the door could only be opened every ten years, and that the jewel was necessary to do so; but at the end of SSoC#90, Conan had smashed the magical gem. No worry! Apparently there's a spare gem in a cavern not too far away from where the events of SSoC#90 occurred; and from what we'll learn later on, the "once every ten years" limitation seemingly no longer applies. (Readers may wonder why, if there was a spare jewel so close at hand, Wrarrl and the wizard bent themselves out of shape when they lost the first one in issue #90. Perhaps they were just extremely annoyed to see their plan foiled, and didn't want any delay). Using the second magical jewel, Wrarrl opens the door between worlds and allows a handful of his brethren through. Shall we be forgiven for not being as impressed by these lumpy-looking guys dressed like serfs as we were by the dragon-helmeted and armoured Wrarrl? There's no mistaking who's the boss in that crowd. Meanwhile, Conan is "tracking" the flying ape. This is not the first time in recent months that people are "tracking" flying creatures. How the hell do they do it, I have no idea. Getting near a vast lake, the barbarian must take care of the unavoidable "monster of the month" episode; this time, a giant mantis is intent on making its repast of a lovely young woman. Conan decapitates the arthropod, which doesn't appear to be out of place in the Corinthian landscape; the Cimmerian refers to the beast as "a giant cliff mantis" as he would have said "an Aquilonian boar" or "a Shemite donkey". In the past, I've expressed my dislike of these fantastic creatures that are introduced willy-nilly as if it was perfectly natural to encounter giant insects in Conan's world.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 2, 2015 10:56:22 GMT -5
The woman Conan saved is named Lia, a young widow who lives alone with her brother-in-law in a rather nice old castle. The brother-in-law is unable to walk, due to events that he relates at dinner-time. He and his brother, Lia's deceased husband, were obsessed with finding a long-lost magical grimoire that contained a cornucopia of magical spells. Having found a map leading to the book, Lia's husband had sailed across the tarn with a crew of hardy companions to find the precious grimoire, and been gone for more than a year. Upon his return, however, his ship had been caught in a storm just as it was reaching home. His brother had taken a rowboat and had braved the furious seas to go help the fast-sinking ship, but as he reached it the main mast had fallen on him and broken his spine. Grabbing a floating piece of debris, he had been pushed back to shore, not having managed to save anyone from the wreck. The next day, Conan and Lia decide to go dive over the spot where the ship sank, hoping that the grimoire might still be there. (I personally doubt that any book would survive a prolonged stay at the bottom of a lake, but since it is a magical book, who knows). Lia manifests her interest in Conan in a way I find very refreshing. Normally, in this kind of tale, the damsel-in-distress flings herself in the arms of her saviour in a way that's probably every teenage boy's fantasy, doubly stroking the hero's ego by (a) acknowledging his prowess and (b) rewarding him with sexual favours. Even if this is a trope of the genre, it is a little embarrassing to a grown-up reader. Here, however, Lia acts like a self-possessed individual with normal urges and desires; she doesn't throw herself at Conan out of gratitude, but is genuinely attracted because he's a good-looking, brave and nice guy. So the two dive from their little rowboat, find the wreck immediately (which is amazing! I've dived on wrecks before, and they're remarkably hard to find unless there's a buoy attached to them!) and are immediately by the second "monster of the month" episode of this issue. A tentacled creature tries to eat the two divers, but after poking the thing's only eye out, they manage to escape and reach the shore. There, the amorous Lia decides to prey on the Cimmerian in a different way! Watching the couple from afar, we se... the brother-in-law, walking without help, and muttering "curse that slut! CURSE her!" The next night, Lia is attacked in her bedroom by the winged ape. Her scream alerts Conan, who rushes in; just as the ape is taking flight with his victim, the Cimmerian jumps on its back and the trio goes down. The Cimmerian slashes the creature with his sword, apparently hurting it seriously, and the ape flies to a nearby window. Conan chases after it, and traces of blood on the ground lead him to the brother-in-law, who is able to shift his shape to that of the ape! The dastardly fellow reveals that he he did manage to reach his brother's ship in time... but in time to murder him and his surviving comrades, and make away with the grimoire. He feigned invalidism so that none would suspect the powers that were now his! That's a very weird argument, if you ask me. Why feign being unable to walk, with all the drawbacks that entails? Why would anyone suspect a bearded middle-aged guy to actually be a winged gorilla with fangs a foot long? I mean, even Clark Kent makes do with a pair of glasses, even if he looks just like Superman; Lia's brother-in-law looks nothing like a giant gorilla. But anyway. The fellow does change into his simian alter-ego and attacks. The following battle is epic, and although Conan seems defeated at one point he manages to turn the table on his opponent and manage to impale it on a pointy stone decoration. However the problems aren't over... just right then, who should enter the castle's courtyard but Wrarrl and his lumpy companions? The devourer thirsts for revenge against the Cimmerian who foiled his plans the last time they met, and he demands a rematch!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 2, 2015 10:56:43 GMT -5
Conan leaves some instructions to Lia, and goes to face his demonic adversary. Wrarrl's sword is still filled with eldritch energy that shocks the Cimmerian again and again, but when the devourer zaps Conan to turn his soul into a worm... nothing happens! Taken aback, Wrarrl says that it's as if the Cimmerian had no soul, something Conan confirms as he runs his sword through his surprised opponent. Lia, using the magical grimoire, had indeed temporarily removed Conan's soul from his body! Wrarrl falls dead, but his brethren gang up against Conan. His desperate defense wouldn't have saved him due to the numbers he faces, but then he receives help from an unexpected source: the drowned sailors walk out of the lake and tear the invaders to pieces! Conan collapses, exhausted, and Lia explains that she would have done anything to save his life, including striking a bargain with the dead sailors... She used the grimoire to call them and strike a bargain: she agreed to gop back with them to their lonely and watery grave. Conan tries to protest but is knocked out by one of the ghosts; when he comes to, Lia is taken below the lake, victim of her own courage and passion. A superb ending to a very good tale. Notes: - Conan is about 27 at the time. - The winged ape he faced here must have reminded him of the one who killed Bêlit, something like a year before. - Likewise, it's not the first time Conan has sex with his diving partner right after facing an underwater monster: the same scene occurred in SSoC#37 - Wrarrl appears to be dead at the end of this issue, but he'll be back in SSoC#109.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 2, 2015 10:57:35 GMT -5
SSoC #96
------------ The Gary Kwapisz portfolio Kwapisz always impressed me with the faces he drew, always very lifelike, and with the gorgeous backgrounds he put in his stories, especially the natural ones.
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Post by berkley on May 2, 2015 15:47:29 GMT -5
That looks much more impressive than some of the other Kwapisz samples I've seen online. I'll feel more encouraged to give some of the Kwapisz SSoCs a try if this is indicative of the bulk of his Conan work. These artist portfolios seem to have been one of the strong points of the later SSoC (i.e. after I stopped reading the series), based on this and the Pablo Marcos ones posted earlier.
I like Jusko's covers much of the time, though even at its best it(edit: Jusko's style, that is)'s a bit too slick and shiny to ever be a favourite with me, but his cover to SSoC #96 looks pretty terrible, to my eyes. One of the worst I've ever seen from him.
Some of the dialogue in the main story sounds hilarious: "The pincers! The pincers!" Somehow that doesn't strike me as a likely choice of words for the victim in that predicament! And yes, the giant Preying Mantis and Conan's casual reference to its presence do seem entirely misplaced in REH's Hyperborean world.
(edit:) forgot to add that I'm fully in agreement with benday-dot and Rob Allen that RR'S reviews in this thread would make an excellent book-form SSoC Companion, with minimal editing.
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Post by foxley on May 2, 2015 18:13:31 GMT -5
It is good to see that Fleisher could turn out an excellent story.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 2, 2015 19:21:58 GMT -5
Some of the dialogue in the main story sounds hilarious: "The pincers! The pincers!" Somehow that doesn't strike me as a likely choice of words for the victim in that predicament! That is true of several examples of dialogue in the Fleisher issues of SSoC. Prepare for downright hilarious statements in the next issue (unfortunately involuntary ones). Not that Fleisher's dialogues are always bad; in fact, quite often, I admire the humour he manages to slip in. But very often, characters do talk like characters in a story and not like real people. I hope I can change your mind about Kwapisz in future issues; I wasn't overly fond of his style at first, apart from his gorgeous backgrounds, but he grew to be a favorite. His work ethics in particular seemed to have been impeccable, as he always provided a TON of art in his stories - a sharp contrast with later artists in the 90s, who would be content to draw a close-up of a hero bouncing in the air, gritting their teeth, with no background (or ankles) to speak of.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 2, 2015 19:23:23 GMT -5
It is good to see that Fleisher could turn out an excellent story. Well, the guy who created those great Jonah Hex and Spectre stories sure has the talent to do so! It's just that with Conan, something apparently didn't click.
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Post by foxley on May 2, 2015 19:48:08 GMT -5
It is good to see that Fleisher could turn out an excellent story. Well, the guy who created those great Jonah Hex and Spectre stories sure has the talent to do so! It's just that with Conan, something apparently didn't click. Sword and sorcery never really seemed to click with Fleisher. His run on The Warlord never really gelled either. While there are decent stories in the run, nothing approached the brilliance of Mike Grell.
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Post by benday-dot on May 2, 2015 20:42:27 GMT -5
That looks much more impressive than some of the other Kwapisz samples I've seen online. I'll feel more encouraged to give some of the Kwapisz SSoCs a try if this is indicative of the bulk of his Conan work. These artist portfolios seem to have been one of the strong points of the later SSoC (i.e. after I stopped reading the series), based on this and the Pablo Marcos ones posted earlier. I like Jusko's covers much of the time, though even at its best it's a bit too slick and shiny to ever be a favourite with me, but his cover to SSoC #96 looks pretty terrible, to my eyes. One of the worst I've ever seen from him. Some of the dialogue in the main story sounds hilarious: "The pincers! The pincers!" Somehow that doesn't strike me as a likely choice of words for the victim in that predicament! And yes, the giant Preying Mantis and Conan's casual reference to its presence do seem entirely misplaced in REH's Hyperborean world. (edit:) forgot to add that I'm fully in agreement with benday-dot and Rob Allen that RR'S reviews in this thread would make an excellent book-form SSoC Companion, with minimal editing. I agree with your opinion about this cover berk. That cover is kind of repulsive, and not in a good way, if you get my meaning. I am not a huge Jusko fan, he really does seem to come off as too slick and shiny as you say. There is a certain "school" of fantasy painting that seemed to emerge in the mid-late 70's, especially with the rise of Heavy Metal (the mag and the music), and oddly even influenced by disco, that really turns me off. It's bright airbrushed look, overly rendered and static looking composition, slick appearance, and often puerile, juvenile or even misogynistic character turns me off. It comes across as dated, vacuous and cringe worthy. There is a hint of this even in some Frazetta painting, but mostly it postdates him, and certainly veers far afield from the golden age of classic fantasy painting and illustration... true masters like St. John, Parish, Wyeth, Rackham and of course those like Krenkel, Angelos, Williamson, Jones, Windsor-Smith and indeed (mostly) Frazetta himself.
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Post by berkley on May 2, 2015 21:13:27 GMT -5
Some of the dialogue in the main story sounds hilarious: "The pincers! The pincers!" Somehow that doesn't strike me as a likely choice of words for the victim in that predicament! That is true of several examples of dialogue in the Fleisher issues of SSoC. Prepare for downright hilarious statements in the next issue (unfortunately involuntary ones). Not that Fleisher's dialogues are always bad; in fact, quite often, I admire the humour he manages to slip in. But very often, characters do talk like characters in a stpry and not like real people. I hope I can change your mind about Kwapisz in future issues; I wasn't overly fond of his style at first, apart from his gorgeous backgrounds, but he grew to be a favorite. His work ethics in particular seemed to have been impeccable, as he always provided a TON of art in his stories - a sharp contrast with later artists in the 90s, who would be content to draw a close-up of a hero bouncing in the air, gritting their teeth, with no background (or ankles) to speak of. I have a fairly open mind about Kwapisz. It's true that I haven't been completely won over by the few samples I've seen so far, but I am aware that they are few - too few to base a judgement on. And I have see one or two things that I do like, such as this portfolio sample from SSoC# 96.
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