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Post by Farrar on Mar 10, 2019 13:14:41 GMT -5
March 1969 My Marvels, off the stands.I waited out 4 weeks and then I took a detour when going home from school. I got off the bus about a mile from my house and hightailed it over to the Friendly Shop and there they were, all three of "my" Marvels, the team books. I loved being able to buy the three comics at once instead of one at a time. With a dollar I could not only grab these three but had plenty enough left over for soda and candy, preferably Broadway Licorice Rolls, a real favorite candy of mine. Superb covers by Colan, Kirby, Adams...not too shabby a lineup, eh? Avengers #64: Great cover, right? I wasn't crazy about Gene Colan's Avengers art last month but somehow, in this, his second issue it looked better to my young eyes. He drew in a looser, more audacious style than my favorite Avengers artist the classically perfect John Buscema. So with #64 I was starting to really get into Colan's figure drawing (with those trademark big feet!) and crazy camera angles. Apart from the art, I was disappointed that Natasha appeared in only a few panels and didn't accompany the Avengers on their mission. And she wouldn't show up in Marvel again until a year later, in Avengers #76! Of course, the big thing about this story was that we FINALLY find out Hawkeye-now-Goliath's real name: he was addressed as "Clint" at the end. Yep, Hawkeye had been around since 1964 but he'd never had a civilian name in the comics before. There had been a few letters along the way asking what Hawkeye's real name was; in particular I recall a letter suggesting the name "Mike" for him. Btw interesting that Marvel named him "Clint", since that name was one that wasn't typically used in comics due to then-printing/spacing concerns (the L and the I ending up too close together; look it up!). At any rate, this was a watershed story. Fantastic Four #87: The conclusion to the 4 issue Dr. Doom story. It was great to see Sue back in full fighting mode with the team. X-Men #56: This issue was Neal Adams's first X-Men, and Marvel, issue. What a change from the neat, pretty Werner Roth art! I knew Adams's work somewhat from all those DC covers, house ads, and World's Finest #176 (from a year earlier) but I was unprepared for his work here on the X-Men. Frankly I HATED it. The X-Men looked off to me, so gnarly and craggy; and what was with Iceman's spiky eyebrows? The only one who looked good was Alex Summers. And Tom Palmer's inks, with all those screen effects, didn't help either. Plus the colors made the book seem somber and dour (Adams himself is said to have been the colorist, as I found out later). You see, I'd been weaned on the clean lines of Schaffenberger, Curt Swan, Kirby with Sinnott, and John Buscema with George Klein so Adams's style was not something I appreciated at the time. I suppose it was too illustrative for me. Besides Colan, the closest I'd encountered to this type of art had been John Buscema inking his own pencils in Avengers #49 and #50--and I remember I'd been somewhat put off by that too (as mentioned, I preferred Klein's inks on Buscema). But I'm grateful that my artistic eye and taste were being challenged--and expanded--by exposure to Adams and Colan. All in all a trio of interesting, satisfying issues; and I was stoked by being able to buy them all at once.
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Post by brutalis on Mar 12, 2019 8:21:57 GMT -5
March 1969 and bought in the early 80's in my continued hunt to fill my back issues. Avengers 69: Colan doing a team and the one I love best. Goodness beyond imagining. Capt Marvel 14 FF 87
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 12, 2019 8:30:51 GMT -5
Nothing off the stands, but a few years latter bought every Marvel mail order back issue.
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Post by Farrar on Mar 13, 2019 17:22:01 GMT -5
March 1969My DCs, off the stands and in the mailThis month, just these two: Wonder Woman #182: As mentioned I had not read many issues of the "old" Wonder Woman so this new version didn't faze me. I enjoyed the art ; Sekowsky wasn't skimping or cutting corners here; the art was detailed and interesting. The Giordano inks complemented the pencils perfectly. It was funny, but I would be able to find WW on the stands for many months and didn't miss an issue for over a year. In hindsight I suppose that's because the comic wasn't selling all that well. IIRC the letters were pretty positive about the change, but that may not be an accurate assessment because obviously DC was controlling which letters saw print. A minor thing about this issue bothered me, though, namely when Diana's in London and sampling the new clothing in the boutiques she muses "Imagine...me in the same room with London high society! It's as though I were suddenly dropped into a Cary Grant picture!" Even as a kid, and one who hadn't read that many WW comics before, this made no sense to me: she was an Amazon, she's met royalty, hell she was royalty herself, she's met presidents, she's traveled to other dimensions, she's been in outer space, she's gone back in time, she's traveled to other worlds--and that (what I've quoted above) is what she's enthused about? Look, I realized that Sekowsky treated her as if she were a brand new character, a blank slate, etc., etc., but IMO there should have been some more awareness and acknowledgement on his part (as the writer) of her former life. So comments like the above bothered me as a reader back then. And this disconnect would re-emerge an issue or two later, when it would figure into a more important plot point and not just in a throwaway thought bubble as here. Adventure #380: Third issue in my Adventure subscription. Okay, the story was so-so, a Shooter story based somewhat on the Odyssey; and the art by Mortimer and Adler wasn't bad. But when I turned to the lettercol I got a big surprise. Well, two. The first was that another letter of mine was published--yay! (My last letter had been a couple of issues earlier, in #378. I was on a roll!) As I basked in that glory, I noticed that, in my excitement about my letter, I'd skipped over an announcement, namely that effective with the next issue the Legion was out of Adventure Comics and moving to Action Comics as a back-up feature, with Supergirl was taking over the lead spot in Adventure . WTF??? What about my subscription??? Was I doomed to receive 9 more issues of Adventure with Supergirl (yes). Now, I'd read some recent Supergirl's solo Action stories thanks to my cousins' Action collection, and while I liked the Schaffenberger art, story-wise the Supergirl stories were inconsequential. They certainly couldn't compare to my beloved Legion's Adventure escapades. So for me, Adventure #380 was a bittersweet issue. From the glory of my letter to this utterly terrible announcement. After all these years I can still feel the shock of reading that announcement. Funny what sticks with you.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 11, 2019 19:22:25 GMT -5
Sadly, it will be about another 2-3 years, before I am ready for this thread. Even then it will be Super Goof.
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Post by brutalis on Apr 12, 2019 8:29:18 GMT -5
Sadly, it will be about another 2-3 years, before I am ready for this thread. Even then it will be Super Goof. Do you mean the comic or are you simply referring to yourself? My usual 50 year purchases around 1981 or so... Avengers 65, more Colan goodness for my fave team. FF 88 No Captain Marvel at this time: instead Marvel Superheroes 21. I had a coverless copy of this issue which I had for many years that I found in a thrift store in Payson, Arizona a small mountain retirement area that my grandparents built a home in the early 70's. So an issue appeared at my LCS with a cover and marked $7. Bought it without any hesitation! Great stories in this one which I still can read over and over again.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 12, 2019 11:55:40 GMT -5
No, my first comics were Super Goof (Goofy as superhero) and Uncle Scrooge.
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Post by Farrar on Apr 15, 2019 16:42:11 GMT -5
April 1969 DCMy DCs that month, off the rack and in the mail: the big three! Action #377: I got this comic because of the Legion; and I was very disappointed to see there was no new Legion story, just a reprint of the LSH story from Adventure #300. However the lettercol gave me a glimmer of hope as it was announced that a story featuring Light Lass and Timber Wolf--two of my favorite Legionnaires--was in the works. Adventure #381: Since I had a subscription to Adventure I was stuck with this comic that now featured Supergirl, the character who'd usurped my beloved Legion's slot. The art wasn't bad; as I've mentioned, the Mortimer-Abel art team--they'd done the last Legion stories--was growing on me. But by far the best part was that the Supergirl story included a guest star: my favorite DC character, Batgirl! Detective #388: And speaking of Batgirl, her back-up feature in Detective wouldn't win any story awards...but that Kane-Anderson art! I mean, look at these character faces. Not to mention Kane's virtuostic way with bodies. The art made this series a must-read for me.
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Post by Farrar on Apr 18, 2019 17:24:45 GMT -5
April 1969MARVELI kept stopping by the Friendly Shop to see if they had my Marvels (FF, Avengers, X-Men) but alas, they didn't. My dream of finding that one, perfect store that carried the monthly Marvels I liked went up in smoke. So I was forced to return to the various dilapidated old candy stores in my own neighborhood to seek out these comics. It was always a crapshoot; if I was lucky, one store would have the FF, another the Avengers and maybe another the X-Men. And it always took several days before I was able to buy all 3 comics for any given month. Anyway, this month I managed to get all three of my usual Marvels (at different stores) plus Marvel Super-Heroes #21, which featured two of my favorite teams! Avengers #65: Conclusion of a three issue story arc featuring Hawkeye-now-Goliath II. Colan's Swordsman was a force of nature. Fantastic Four #88: The FF return home from Latveria--it was about time! This issue was a set-up issue in that the team didn't really fight anyone; the battle with an antagonist would come next issue. I liked this type of pacing (the "action" in my first FF issue, #68, was similarly set up). Also loved the opening sequence with Reed, Sue, Ben, Alicia, Johnny, Crystal, and Franklin: the FF as family. Marvel Super-Heroes #21: I was always a sucker for covers with white backgrounds, not just FF #88 but also this giant-sized comic that featured the Avengers and the X-Men. It's funny but I can remember just where this comic was situated in the wall rack when I first saw it, in the little candy store across the street from where I lived. The issue reprinted Avengers #3 (they face Sub-Mariner) and X-Men #2 (against the Vanisher). Both stories had Kirby-Reinman art and I remember liking that there was a consistent "old Marvel" look (the stories were from 1963, or six years earlier). These were probably the first older Avengers and X-Men stories I'd ever read and I felt like an archaeologist on a dig. In a few months I would start to buy back issues. X-Men #57: Lorna Dane, who'd last appeared in #52, returned to the series so I was very pleased with this issue! Alex Summers was also still part of this story so there was a larger cast of characters than just the O5. Plus Roy Thomas had returned to the series (last issue), and I was getting used to Neal Adams's craggy art. I know many people point to this era as an upswing in the X-Men book and I can tell you as someone who was there, it's true: all of the sudden the X-Men book had heft and weight and was exciting. I also liked the back-up feature about Marvel Girl's powers; next issue though the back-up feature would be gone and the whole book would be devoted to the work of Messrs. Thomas and Adams. Plus: A Marvel bonus for me! Earlier in the month, before I'd bought any of the above comics, my mother gave me a comic: Captain America #115. I remember being somewhat pissed about it; I would have preferred that she'd given me a comic from a series that I regularly collected such as the FF, Avengers, or X-Men (would have saved me 12 cents). Didn't she know I didn't read the Cap book? Didn't she pay attention to my comics reading habits? I guess not. Anyway this was the first and only issue of Cap I ever had as a kid. And even though I had never read an issue of Cap before, I had no trouble following the story; I knew about Cap's then-supporting cast, Sharon Carter and Rick Jones; and his arch enemy the Red Skull, thanks to info gleaned from the Bullpen Bulletins pages. And then there was the great John Buscema art inked by brother Sal; an unbeatable combo IMO (I loved their work on Silver Surfer #4). So the comic wasn't a total loss And look at this memorable cover by M. Severin/F. Giacoia...not that I knew their names at that time.
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Post by zilch on Apr 18, 2019 21:33:17 GMT -5
Right about this time, i started getting a lot of comics. Unfortunately, due to sell-offs, debt repayment (story on that next month) and time, i own very few comics that i originally bought off the stands. I was probably starting to get my allowance at this time (a big whopping 50 cents a week!), so that's what? Four books a week? Mom and Dad must have been supplementing that money a bit on occasion.
So, some maybes...
Action Comics #377 (remember reading the weird Forte Legion story with the Luthor robot) Captain America #115 (maybe) Fantastic Four #88 Flash #189 Iron Man #15 (definitely!) Justice League of America #72 Marvel Tales #21 Metal Men #38 Showcase #83 (definitely!)
Superboy #157
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Post by Farrar on Apr 19, 2019 9:04:47 GMT -5
...I was probably starting to get my allowance at this time (a big whopping 50 cents a week!), so that's what? Four books a week? Mom and Dad must have been supplementing that money a bit on occasion... My allowance had started out as a quarter a year or two earlier but during this time it was probably--like yours--50 cents a week. So I was usually prepared to pick up the comics I liked, that is once I could find them (that was the hard part for me back then). And any time we kids visited our paternal grandparents--they lived a few blocks away from us, so we were over there a lot--I could expect a trip to one of the two candy stores on their block. My grandmother always let me pick out a comic to buy (her treat).
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Post by brutalis on Apr 19, 2019 9:48:48 GMT -5
Lucky folks with allowances. Never had one so my earliest comic collecting was all done from the good graces of my grandmother. She lived 3 blocks from us in the same neighborhood so she would send me once a week to the Korean convenience store/market to buy her cigarettes or something else and allow me to spend the change (usually 50-75cents)on comic books as my reward for going. Any other issues were usually singular and coverless from my uncle's barbershop or traded over the fence with a neighbor. Once I was into my early teens then my comic fix was fueled by odds and end jobs around the neighborhood and mowing lawns. That is when the "addiction" really took over, having enough moolah jingling in the pocket for multiple purchases and then having to decide upon what you wanted most. Almost always would be 2-3 Marvel's with a DC tossed in. My mother always blamed my grandmother for those 1st comics for me and during my youth kept trying to have me get rid of them.
Wonder what mom must be thinking now, looking down from Heaven at what my addiction has become and how the collection has grown and continues today for me as an adult at age 56? Hope she can smile and now understands the joys and happiness comic books provide me throughout my life.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 25, 2019 9:41:25 GMT -5
April 1969My infatuation with Marvel is dying out. Looking back, I think I was actually turned off by the “to be continued” style that was what had long differentiated Marvel from DC. Miss an issue (and distribution, while much better than it had been two years before, which was still a problem) and you missed a lot. Plus, there was an inescapable feeling of soap operatic stasis. Granted, change in DC‘s comics and characters was seen as glacial by Marvelites, but Marvel suffered in its own way form the practical truth that nothing could really change where commercial properties were concerned. Thus, as in soap operas, melodrama reigned, and the same problems and predicaments reappeared over and over. How many times were the FF going to break up? How many more times were the Silver Surfer, or the Hulk, or Namor going to be misjudged by humanity? Why did Galactus keep returning to Earth despite being frustrated so many times before? And couldn’t the Avengers get along for at least one issue? Anyway, I would still buy Marvel comics, but only on occasion. The stories just never seemed to end. Even the reprint titles became blander. The reprints were too recent and the original stories vanished. I forget when I first heard that they were going to publish Conan, which I know made me happy indeed, but between 1969 and the summer of ’70, I would buy Marvels only if they were a bit more offbeat – a Western here or there, the new horror titles, and the “split” titles ( Amazing Adventures and Astonishing Tales). Over at DC, I kept up with JLA, Batman and Detective, but for the most part, I was interested in their new and different titles: Bat Lash, Hawk and the Dove, Showcase (Nightmaster was the latest feature), Enemy Ace (in SSWS), and Sugar and Spike. I remember waiting with great anticipation for Brave and the Bold 84, with the Batman-Sgt. Rock team-up. It didn’t disappoint. Batman was the Earth-One version, so Bob Haney had not even nodded toward continuity (I just pretended this was on Earth-Two), but Neal Adams nailed the shadowy creature of the night Batman. He also proved uncannily good at doing a dramatic, Kubertesque Rock. I have to say that even then I wasn’t as thrilled by the cover as I wanted to be; Rock seemed to be in rigor mortis, and Batman’s pose seemed just as stiff and his expression all wrong. As a reader, I could sense that things were changing at DC; the old guard titles seemed old and tired. The gloss and glory of the Silver Age's sf-oriented stories and characters had at last disappeared. Despite a few excellent Kubert covers, obviously meant to lure readers, the post-Infantino Flash was bland indeed; Green Lantern was lurching from premise to premise; the Atom and Hawkman were on their last legs in their combined title; the Legion was gone; and the Weisinger titles just kept doing what they’d always done. Part of my dissatisfaction no doubt arose from the fact that I, and many other fans, had stuck around longer than the average comic book fan had been expected to. But that was becoming the norm, not the exception, so I and thousands of other fans had seen these stories before. The problem was that DC – and Marvel, too – had no level for fans to “graduate” to. To its credit, DC was trying, but within that old guard I mentioned, the domains of Weisinger and Schwartz, there was little hint that anything new (like the 60s) had happened. And many of the new titles were given little chance to survive, vanishing within just a few issues of their arrival. It was in the out of the way corners of the DC Universe that anything new or different appeared: Joe Kubert’s often daringly allegorical war books; Dick Giordano’s experimental Creeper, Hawk and the Dove, and pleasant surprise Aquaman; and good old Murray Boltinoff’s eclectic stable ( Challengers, Sugar and Spike, Tomahawk, B and B), where anything could happen. Even Mike Sekowsky and Joe Orlando got into the act with comics like the last-ditch attempt to save the Metal Men, the new Wonder Woman, and Bat Lash and Anthro. Say this for the folks at DC in April 1969: they were publishing something for every kind of comics fan. The same was not yet the case at Marvel.
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Post by brutalis on May 2, 2019 7:55:14 GMT -5
May 1969
Wasn't buying comic books as yet but in the 1980's still building my back issue collecting. The usual gang of 3!
Avengers 66 Captain Marvel 15 FF 89
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Post by Prince Hal on May 5, 2019 13:09:34 GMT -5
As I said above, my comics buying was becoming more selective around these times. I think I was starting to buy more film/ comic-oriented magazines like Castle of Frankenstein and Larry Ivie's Monsters and Heroes, as well as music magazines like Circus) that had begun to pop up her and there. The one that sticks with me from May '69 are the Batman annual (213), which featured a great story, the famous "Man in the Red Hood," along with a few other gems. Also, as had happened first in Superboy 147 and then again in Batman 208, an annual featured a brand-new story. This might have been a very late response to Marvel's longtime practice of using their annuals to showcase a special original story. In those three instances, anyway, the story was well done thanks to the editor of the annuals, E. Nelson Bridwell. It was particularly touching in Batman 208, which had a nicely done unexpected ending. This was also the first Batman annual in the new 64-page size. Definitely a tolling bell for us Silver Age fans.
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