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Post by Farrar on Jul 16, 2021 13:40:02 GMT -5
July 1971DCAs I have mentioned, my neighborhood candy stores were stocking fewer and fewer comics, and more magazines. That month I bought only one DC off the stands: Teen Titans #35: I loved this issue! The Tuska-Cardy art beautiful and distinctive, as well as just realistic without being self-consciously so. At the time I hadn't seen the Zeffirelli Romeo and Juliet movie, so this story was the next best thing This was during DC's "depowering" stage and I didn't like was that the Titans were still not using their powers, that is, if you could call Speedy's archery and Robin's athleticism "powers." Yes, Kid Flash used his speed in a panel or two but Wonder Girl? Her super strength and other powers were ignored (and had been in the last TT comic I'd read). Look, I get it--the DC powers that be wanted to make their heroes more relatable, and the way they did was to make their characters less super (and for the Titans, not wear their costumes all the time). But it bothered me that by doing so Donna just became someone--in this story, at least--who was relegated to the sidelines while the boys fought. She was the most powerful person on the team, dammit! Anyway, this was the first part of a continued story but I never got the next issue. I finally got to read the conclusion a few years ago when I bought the Teen Titans Showcase collections. Didn't own back then but read a friend's copyAs an aside, I had friends who read Kirby's Jimmy Olsen, so I read this comic (JO #139) thanks to a classmate. At the time I had no idea who Don Rickles was and I thought this comic was just so silly. I felt sad because I'd loved Kirby's FF work, especially when inked by Sinnott, and now he was doing--this??!!
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Post by Farrar on Jul 22, 2021 17:20:44 GMT -5
July 1971 My MarvelsMy interest in new DCs had almost come to a halt (though I was still buying back issues of Wonder Woman, Lois Lane, the Legion Adventure, JLA, Teen Titans, and few other titles at the collectibles store on my block). As an aside: I was now very interested in baseball, and the summer of 1971 I had my transistor radio constantly tuned into the Yankees station. Yes, for my first full year as a baseball fan I was a Yankees fan (next year I would switch to the Mets and never look back ). I started with the Yankees because my class had gone to a Yankees game and so I felt some sort of allegiance to them. So now when I went to the candy stores it was to buy multiple newspapers: the Times (for my parents), the News and the Post. I devoured the sports pages and cut out the Yankees box scores and pasted them into a spiralbound notebook I kept, tracking the Yankees' wins and losses --mostly losses that year, as they were a miserable team! The superstar team of baseball during the time were the Baltimore Orioles, who happened to be in the Yankees' division (this was back when there were only 2 divisions in each league). The Os seemed invincible, at least in the American League. My father also had a subscription to Sports Illustrated and I loved reading those. Basically, following the Yankees and baseball in general and the everyday box scores and numerous articles about the AL satisfied my love for serialized drama, and became my go-to leisure reading material, replacing my DC comics reading. But there was still Marvel and I was still a fan of the Avengers and FF, and luckily there was still one reliable candy store in my neighborhood that regularly stocked the latest issues of those two series every month. That July I bought these two fresh off the stands: Avengers #92: cover by Neal Adams (as if it's not obvious), interior art by Sal Buscema. I loved Sal's Avengers; he made them look cute and relatable. I also loved that Roy Thomas was including some conflict between Wanda and Vision; as we saw last issue they were attracted to one another but here in #92 Vision was pushing Wanda away. Oh the soap opera of it all ! Finally there was some romance in this series and I couldn't wait to see how this would play out. For me it was always the human interest part that made comics interesting. Also, Wanda was my favorite Marvel character and I was glad to see her finally get some character development. Fantastic Four #115: Can you say bor-ing? Page after page of the Watcher droning on/expository background, then Reed turning "bad." Hadn't the FF just gone through this, with Ben turning against the team a few issues earlier? Plot by Stan, script/dialogue by Archie Goodwin. John Buscema did his usual masterful job drawing the "expository" section since it contained a lot of fanciful scenes, but his FF scenes were kind of pedestrian. It pains me to say that because he is about my favorite Marvel artist (along with Gene Colan), but you can tell his heart wasn't in superhero teams like the FF.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 2, 2021 22:05:50 GMT -5
August 1971All I've got for this month, but it sure was a darn memorable storyline!
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 2, 2021 22:11:02 GMT -5
Nothing I recall having, though I later acquired New Gods #5, Superman #243 (World of Krypton back-up story, plus sand creature saga continued).
Super Goo and Uncle Scrooge were possibilities, as I had a couple of each, but have never been sure which ones I had, other than the issue of Super Goof with Super Gilley.
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Post by Farrar on Aug 24, 2021 15:08:33 GMT -5
August 1971 IntroductionI was getting to the age where I hated summer vacations with my family. I hated being away from my friends and being forced to spend time with with my uncool parents and siblings. Another reason I grew to hate family vacations was that I was worried about not being able to buy my comics. I was never sure if we'd stop at a place that carried my comics. This was back in the days when comics were on sale for a month; after that time ended, the comics were replaced with the next month's batch. Anyway, for most of August we were vacationing at a hotel upstate. Beautiful but boorrr-ing. Thank god I had a radio with me and could listen to the Yankee games (though the reception wasn't the greatest). I remember listening to a game that was trumpeted as "Vida Blue Day" at Yankee Stadium. I couldn't believe the Yankees were promoting an enemy player, but I have to admit like everyone else that year I was swept up in Vida-mania. He was having an incredible year! The attendance was announced at over 50,000. Back to August 1971 comics. No DCs for me that month. No great loss; as I have mentioned I was becoming increasingly disenchanted with DC's fare for a while now. For Marvel, it was a different story. As I have stated previously, I was still following two series: the Fantastic Four and the Avengers. Both series were in the midst of long story arcs. So I was happy when one day my parents took us to a little souvenir-type store and I saw--a spinner rack! With Marvel comics! My mother--who hated that I was still reading "kiddie" comics--relented and said I could pick out ONE comic, so I had to chose between FF #116 and Avengers #93. I picked the FF comic. ( I had some extra money with me but I certainly wouldn't have risked my mother's wrath by buying more than one comic in front of her.) A few days later when my family was going on yet another boring day trip to some local attraction, I begged off saying I didn't feel well. They had the car so once once they were gone I took the bus to the souvenir store and bought Avengers #93. I breathed a great sigh of relief that I now had both comics!
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Post by Farrar on Aug 24, 2021 15:51:40 GMT -5
August 1971 continuedMy Marvels off the stands spinner-rack: Fantastic Four #116: Okay, so I bought this one first and I was sorry I did. Pedestrian "we're the only one who can save the universe from this all-powerful being" and one member of team turns bad (Reed in this case). Ho hum. By the way, this was the month Marvel expanded its page count (and price, to a whole quarter! Not good for a financially-strapped poor young 'un like me). Anyway, with all these extra pages the story meandered and there seemed to be a lot of padding. And as we know, next month Marvel went back down to its usual page count and reduced the price to 20 cents. DC didn't, so Marvel finally caught up in sales. John Buscema was doing his best Jack Kirby imitation, aided and abetted by the great Joe Sinnott....but IMO this just resulted in watered-down Buscema. I know it was important to maintain the classic FF look, but here the art looked so simple, so basic. And what was with the cover?! Back then I hated those picture frame covers. I know it was done for uniformity and easier identification but to me it looked silly and yes, childish. And no more corner box faces with team members! Now there was just a single figure. Avengers #93: So here's the thing. When I bought Avengers #93 a few days later and looked at it alongside FF #116, I immediately noticed that they were both cover dated "November." But ever since I started to read Marvel in 1967, I knew that a few monthly series were cover dated 2 months ahead of on sale month (Avengers, Daredevil, Thor) and others 3 months ahead, even though all were on sale at the same time. In other words, I'd expected Avengers #93 to be cover dated October, not November. So what happened? Stuck as I was at this godforsaken vacation hotel, had I somehow missed an issue, namely the October issue??? To make matters worse, the previous Avengers comic I'd read had ended with the shaming of and dissolution of the Avengers team of Wanda, Pietro, Clint and Vision. This new comic, #93, opened with the Vision barging into Avengers HQ and falling flat on his face in front of Thor, Cap and Iron Man...and then several pages of Ant-Man(?! I thought Hank had quit superheroing a few issues ago) making his now-famous journey in the Vision's body. Page after page after page after pa--you get the idea--of Neal Adams. Okay, okay, I know he's a great artist and all that, but what happened to Wanda, Pietro and Clint? This really didn't seem like it continued from #92; I really thought I had missed an issue. FINALLY halfway through this expanded comic Vision recounts what happened to his partners. Now of course this issue is considered a classic, and I can appreciate was Adams did; but back then I was so annoyed that the story I wanted to read--what happened to the Avengers--was interrupted by pages of (admittedly exquisite and masterful) art. Anyway, once I got home and checked that the previous issue was indeed numbered #92 I realized that I hadn't missed an issue. It was just that starting with the monthlies on sale in August, Marvel had synched up its comics' cover dates so the cover dates were now uniform. So you'll see there's no October 1971 cover-dated issues for the Avengers, Daredevil and Thor.
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Post by kirby101 on Aug 25, 2021 10:21:26 GMT -5
Big month for me. After a little more of a year, I decided to stop buying only Conan monthly and start buying a lot of the Marvel output. I did pick up New Gods in that time, and probably one or two books here and there. I guess seeing all those books in the racks and in House Ads got to me. Why did I go for it in the month they went to 25 cents, I do not remember.
Books: Amazing Spider-Man #102 - Still had to many arms Avengers #93 - Adams start on the Kree/Skrull War, what an amazing issue to start with. Ant-Man's fantastic voyage is still, well....fantastic. Captain America #143 Great Romita art. Conan the Barbarian #11 Double size Smith/Thomas he just keeps getting better. Daredevil #81 Colan. still my favorite DD artist. Fantastic Four Vol 1 116 Big John coming into his own, okay FF story. Incredible Hulk #145 Trimpe, still THE Hulk artist for me. Iron Man #43 IM, the one Marvel Supe that I only bought sporadically. Marvel Spotlight 1 Red Wolf, with rare pencils by Syd Shores Sgt. Fury Vol 1 93 Wahoo! Sub-Mariner Vol 1 43 Nice Colan art. Thor Vol 1 193 Double treat, Busema's Thor and Surfer!
DC: New Gods #5
And I was off, reading a dozen books a month and soon buying back issues fill inh what had gone before.
Compared to today. Then, I could buy 10 or so books and be immersed in the entire Marvel Universe. Today, that would not even let me keep up with Spider-Man. No wonder left the Big Two a decade ago.
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Post by Farrar on Aug 30, 2021 14:12:43 GMT -5
... Books: Amazing Spider-Man #102 - Still had to many arms Avengers #93 - Adams start on the Kree/Skrull War, what an amazing issue to start with. Ant-Man's fantastic voyage is still, well....fantastic. Captain America #143 Great Romita art. Conan the Barbarian #11 Double size Smith/Thomas he just keeps getting better. Daredevil #81 Colan. still my favorite DD artist. Fantastic Four Vol 1 116 Big John coming into his own, okay FF story. Incredible Hulk #145 Trimpe, still THE Hulk artist for me. Iron Man #43 IM, the one Marvel Supe that I only bought sporadically. Marvel Spotlight 1 Red Wolf, with rare pencils by Syd Shores Sgt. Fury Vol 1 93 Wahoo! Sub-Mariner Vol 1 43 Nice Colan art. Thor Vol 1 193 Double treat, Busema's Thor and Surfer! DC: New Gods #5 And I was off, reading a dozen books a month and soon buying back issues fill in what had gone before. Compared to today. Then, I could buy 10 or so books and be immersed in the entire Marvel Universe. Today, that would not even let me keep up with Spider-Man. No wonder left the Big Two a decade ago. ... Envious that you were able to buy so many comics back then ! As I have mentioned, during this time in my neighborhood--upper Manhattan--the candy stores seemed to be decreasing their stash of monthly comic books; instead, there were more and more magazines in the racks. And while I would shortly be going to school in midtown Manhattan--so I was in Grand Central every day--those great big newsstands in Grand Central stocked foreign and domestic magazines*** as well as paperbacks--but not comics! ***I soon became addicted to sports, film, and theatre magazines...but that's another story
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Post by kirby101 on Aug 30, 2021 14:28:59 GMT -5
It would often take me going to 3 or even four drug stores and 7/11s to get all the weeks books. When I came up from Florida and visited my grandmother in Queens, the Candy Stores seemed well stocked.
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Post by Farrar on Oct 18, 2021 19:17:06 GMT -5
Time to play some catch up! Here's what I bought off the stands in September 1971 (yes, I know it's October and I'll get around to that, but first I need to post Sept. 1971). DC: A big nothing bought off the stands that month. Note, I was still a fan of the Sekowsky Wonder Woman, but this month's issue, #197, contained reprints from just a couple of years earlier (the start of Sekowsky's run) and I already had those issues, so I didn't buy #197. The same thing would happen with #198 (on sale two months later). I remember being very annoyed that DC was reprinting such recent stories! Marvel: I managed to pick up my two regular Marvels: Avengers #94: Another installment of what we now know as the Kree-Skrull War, and I know it's considered a classic, but for me back then, ho hum. The art and story were just all over the place and not in a good way. This issue contained three "chapters"; the first and third illustrated in a to-my-eyes-hurried fashion by Neal Adams; and the middle chapter penciled by John Buscema (it's been reported that Buscema was called in because Adams was having problems with deadlines). Tom Palmer inked the whole thing. The two different pencilers was jarring, and made the issue seem like it was put together at the last minute. Coupled with last issue's sloppiness (for example, the Vision's headpiece was colored yellow throughout the book) plus what seemed to me a middle chapter that read as filler -- and not not very imaginative: Wanda and Pietro battling little creatures who were just like Star Trek's famous Tribbles--well, let's say this young reader wasn't very pleased back then. Fantastic Four #117: The FF issue was even worse. Here Johnny went to look for Crystal, who'd been gone from the book since #105 (a year earlier in real time) and all of a sudden he discovers she never made it back to the Inhumans?? The fact that Johnny and Crystal hadn't stayed in touch at all since her departure was, to me, silly. Archie Goodwin was now writing the FF (since #115) and he did an okay Stan impression but the book was clearly sputtering. This was a continued story/the first part of a two-issue story. And as it turned out, #117 was the last issue of FF I'd buy off the stands. Due to poor distribution in my neighborhood as well as my own growing lack of interest in the FF, I never got issue #118. In fact I only read the conclusion of this story a few years ago in the FF Essentials volume.
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 18, 2021 19:46:39 GMT -5
Every Marvel off the stands.
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Post by berkley on Oct 19, 2021 0:30:38 GMT -5
Time to play some catch up! Here's what I bought off the stands in September 1971 (yes, I know it's October and I'll get around to that, but first I need to post Sept. 1971). DC: A big nothing bought off the stands that month. Note, I was still a fan of the Sekowsky Wonder Woman, but this month's issue, #197, contained reprints from just a couple of years earlier (the start of Sekowsky's run) and I already had those issues, so I didn't buy #197. The same thing would happen with #198 (on sale two months later). I remember being very annoyed that DC was reprinting such recent stories! Marvel: I managed to pick up my two regular Marvels: Avengers #94: Another installment of what we now know as the Kree-Skrull War, and I know it's considered a classic, but for me back then, ho hum. The art and story were just all over the place and not in a good way. This issue contained three "chapters"; the first and third illustrated in a to-my-eyes-hurried fashion by Neal Adams; and the middle chapter penciled by John Buscema (it's been reported that Buscema was called in because Adams was having problems with deadlines). Tom Palmer inked the whole thing. The two different pencilers was jarring, and made the issue seem like it was put together at the last minute. Coupled with last issue's sloppiness (for example, the Vision's headpiece was colored yellow throughout the book) plus what seemed to me a middle chapter that read as filler -- and not not very imaginative: Wanda and Pietro battling little creatures who were just like Star Trek's famous Tribbles--well, let's say this young reader wasn't very pleased back then. Fantastic Four #117: The FF issue was even worse. Here Johnny went to look for Crystal, who'd been gone from the book since #105 (a year earlier in real time) and all of a sudden he discovers she never made it back to the Inhumans?? The fact that Johnny and Crystal hadn't stayed in touch at all since her departure was, to me, silly. Archie Goodwin was now writing the FF (since #115) and he did an okay Stan impression but the book was clearly sputtering. This was a continued story/the first part of a two-issue story. And as it turned out, #117 was the last issue of FF I'd buy off the stands. Due to poor distribution in my neighborhood as well as my own growing lack of interest in the FF, I never got issue #118. In fact I only read the conclusion of this story a few years ago in the FF Essentials volume.
I didn't read the Avengers #94 but I remember the FF comic, which as you say, wasn't a great issue, as I recall. I remember liking that Crystal was in it after being absent for quite some time - she was such a favourite character of mine as a young kid, that her presence was enough in itself for a comic to hold my interest to some degree - although IIRC she was relegated to a mostly passive damsel-in-distress rôle here, hypnotised by Diablo, or something. I always thought these mind-control stories were a bit of a rip-off, because you weren't getting the actual character but rather some version that behaved in a totally different way. But Buscema made her look nice, at least.
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Post by Farrar on Oct 19, 2021 19:33:37 GMT -5
I didn't read the Avengers #94 but I remember the FF comic, which as you say, wasn't a great issue, as I recall. I remember liking that Crystal was in it after being absent for quite some time - she was such a favourite character of mine as a young kid, that her presence was enough in itself for a comic to hold my interest to some degree - although IIRC she was relegated to a mostly passive damsel-in-distress rôle here, hypnotised by Diablo, or something. I always thought these mind-control stories were a bit of a rip-off, because you weren't getting the actual character but rather some version that behaved in a totally different way. But Buscema made her look nice, at least. Yes, she was hypnotized by Diablo and so she wasn't even really in character, as you noted. She was one of my favorite Marvel characters at that time and I think the fact that she was not seen for a year--not in the FF, or even in the Amazing Adventures Inhuman feature--well, it added to my waning interest in Marvel. Back then it was the characters (and not, say, a particular artist or writer) that interested me. I would have picked up the next FF issue because of Crystal, to see if she'd rejoined the FF...but I never found #118 on the stands nor any of the next few issues, so I have to conclude my neighborhood stores stopped carrying the FF series around that time. It's weird, those same stores continued to carry the Avengers comic but I could no longer find the FF comic in my neighborhood.
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Post by berkley on Oct 20, 2021 0:07:33 GMT -5
I didn't read the Avengers #94 but I remember the FF comic, which as you say, wasn't a great issue, as I recall. I remember liking that Crystal was in it after being absent for quite some time - she was such a favourite character of mine as a young kid, that her presence was enough in itself for a comic to hold my interest to some degree - although IIRC she was relegated to a mostly passive damsel-in-distress rôle here, hypnotised by Diablo, or something. I always thought these mind-control stories were a bit of a rip-off, because you weren't getting the actual character but rather some version that behaved in a totally different way. But Buscema made her look nice, at least. Yes, she was hypnotized by Diablo and so she wasn't even really in character, as you noted. She was one of my favorite Marvel characters at that time and I think the fact that she was not seen for a year--not in the FF, or even in the Amazing Adventures Inhuman feature--well, it added to my waning interest in Marvel. Back then it was the characters (and not, say, a particular artist or writer) that interested me. I would have picked up the next FF issue because of Crystal, to see if she'd rejoined the FF...but I never found #118 on the stands nor any of the next few issues, so I have to conclude my neighborhood stores stopped carrying the FF series around that time. It's weird, those same stores continued to carry the Avengers comic but I could no longer find the FF comic in my neighborhood.
This was September 1971, so yes, I would have been 9 years old still, and I was much more aware of and interested in the characters than the creators - though I think I was starting to take note of some names, especially if they had a very distinct, easily recognisable style, e.g. Gene Colan. But at this stage I most likely would have been happy to read the FF or the Avengers or what have you no matter who the creators were.
OTOH, not long after this I did stop reading comics for a few years, so maybe I did sense a drop-off or at least a change in quality without being fully aware of it or blaming specific writers or artists.
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Post by Farrar on Oct 30, 2021 10:12:18 GMT -5
And now here's what I got off the stands back in those halcyon days of October 1971:
DC: nothing!!!! Marvel: just this one, Avengers #95. I don't recall why I didn't pick up this month's FF #118--was it unavailable in my neighborhood, or did I flip through it and decide it was sub-par? I'd bought the FF steadily since #68, and I'd also amassed many back issues starting from #34, but there you have it: this was the end of an era for me, no more FF. As for Avengers #95, it was another issue in a seemingly-interminable arc that had to do with Mar-Vell and the Sree and the Krulls --oh wait a minute. To be blunt, I was just so over this storyline! The Big Three Avengers were prominently featured, plus Rick Jones, and Mar-Vell -- and now the Inhumans were involved?! I'd bought the first Neal Adams Inhumans issue (Amazing Adventures #5) nearly a year earlier, and evidently this Avengers story was a wrap up to what had been started in AA. Where the f were Wanda and Pietro (my favorite Avengers)? Well, they popped up in a couple of panels. Whoopee doo. So this was yet another disappointing issue for me. And while I appreciate Adams's art now, back then with all those characters involved his art seemed rushed and sloppy. There were many (IMO) awkward-looking depictions, such as this one, though Adams did a great Triton, as here--that jaw!--and of course this issue's famous opening splash. But look at Black Bolt: On the flip side, here's a panel that I've remembered fondly for many years, well after I gave up superhero comics. Iron Man as Tony Stark created the issue's menace (the Mandroids) so of course he knew how to defeat them. Here we have Iron Man deflecting Thor, telling him to mind his own business (this was before the two knew each other's civilian identities). Then and now, I just get such a kick out of this exchange. Some nice dialogue by Roy Thomas.
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