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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 26, 2015 11:53:58 GMT -5
If Thomas is such a strict constructionist, shouldn't the vote be 5 to 3 and 3/5?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 13:03:34 GMT -5
So, both sides are the same, eh? Would the U.S. have today's Supreme Court decision legitimatizing same-sex marriage in the entire country if Kagan and Sotomayor were replaced by McCain's or Romney's appointees? Discuss. No, both sides are not the same, especially regarding social issues. But both sides have large campaign finance access that third parties don't have. |
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Post by The Captain on Jun 26, 2015 16:45:13 GMT -5
So, both sides are the same, eh? Would the U.S. have today's Supreme Court decision legitimatizing same-sex marriage in the entire country if Kagan and Sotomayor were replaced by McCain's or Romney's appointees? Discuss. Probably not. Though it's not ever that clear. Kennedy was appointed by Reagan and Chief Justice Roberts, who wrote the opinion upholding The Affordable Care Act, was appointed by Bush II. The court makes strange bedfellows...though you definitely have hardcore ideologues like Uncle Thomas. That said, replace either or both of those justices with Republican appointees and there is likely a different result. Cool! I didn't realize Justice Thomas was your uncle... Oh, you were making an "Uncle Tom" reference because he's black and conservative, thus he's a sell-out. It's funny that the supposed tolerant liberals sling insults at others based on race or sex if the target doesn't agree with their line of thinking, but if a conservative does it, they are labeled racist or sexist. Cute double standard that goes on there. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 26, 2015 16:51:07 GMT -5
Probably not. Though it's not ever that clear. Kennedy was appointed by Reagan and Chief Justice Roberts, who wrote the opinion upholding The Affordable Care Act, was appointed by Bush II. The court makes strange bedfellows...though you definitely have hardcore ideologues like Uncle Thomas. That said, replace either or both of those justices with Republican appointees and there is likely a different result. Cool! I didn't realize Justice Thomas was your uncle... Oh, you were making an "Uncle Tom" reference because he's black and conservative, thus he's a sell-out. It's funny that the supposed tolerant liberals sling insults at others based on race or sex if the target doesn't agree with their line of thinking, but if a conservative does it, they are labeled racist or sexist. Cute double standard that goes on there. Yep. I was. Funny is funny. Show me one place I've ever done what you're claiming? |
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Post by The Captain on Jun 26, 2015 17:07:01 GMT -5
Cool! I didn't realize Justice Thomas was your uncle... Oh, you were making an "Uncle Tom" reference because he's black and conservative, thus he's a sell-out. It's funny that the supposed tolerant liberals sling insults at others based on race or sex if the target doesn't agree with their line of thinking, but if a conservative does it, they are labeled racist or sexist. Cute double standard that goes on there. Yep. I was. Funny is funny. Show me one place I've ever done what you're claiming? Referring to a black person as an Uncle Tom is an insult meant to shame them for not being "black enough" or for trying to be white or currying favor with whites through their behavior. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 26, 2015 17:16:21 GMT -5
Yep. I was. Funny is funny. Show me one place I've ever done what you're claiming? Referring to a black person as an Uncle Tom is an insult meant to shame them for not being "black enough" or for trying to be white or currying favor with whites through their behavior. It's an off color joke( no pun intended) and Slam is pretty much known for that...even you must know that given how long you've been around these parts. If he was someone who went around preaching to the choir about political correctness and then he turned around and made that comment you may have had a point...but that's not the case. This isn't an issue of Liberal Privilege or Conservative Shaming, it's just Slam being Slam. If any one has further issue with that kindly take it to PM. |
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Post by The Captain on Jun 26, 2015 17:46:35 GMT -5
Referring to a black person as an Uncle Tom is an insult meant to shame them for not being "black enough" or for trying to be white or currying favor with whites through their behavior. It's an off color joke( no pun intended) and Slam is pretty much known for that...even you must know that given how long you've been around these parts. If he was someone who went around preaching to the choir about political correctness and then he turned around and made that comment you may have had a point...but that's not the case. This isn't an issue of Liberal Privilege or Conservative Shaming, it's just Slam being Slam. If any one has further issue with that kindly take it to PM. You're right. I should have just let it go based on who posted it. I debated long and hard about actually replying and I made the wrong choice. Apologies. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 26, 2015 17:48:16 GMT -5
It's all good, we're only human...except for Hilary as I'm pretty sure she's a terminator. Seriously, just look at her eyes when she talks it's scary.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 19:28:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 19:29:43 GMT -5
I just realized that in just one week Obamacare was upheld by the SCOTUS, the rebel flag was removed from decent society, and gay marriage was legalized in all fifty states.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 19:32:29 GMT -5
If Thomas is such a strict constructionist, shouldn't the vote be 5 to 3 and 3/5? Thomas' dissent and his views on human dignity, is absolutely disgusting.
Thomas argued that the Declaration of Independence affirmed that all humans were created in the vision of God and therefore enjoyed inherent worth.
Therefore, the conservative justice argued, the government cannot grant or take away a person’s dignity – and he offered some rather astounding examples to support his claims.
“Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved,” Thomas said. “Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away.” www.rawstory.com/2015/06/clarence-thomas-holds-some-pretty-horrifying-views-on-human-dignity/MLK is spinning in his grave, that THIS person is whom many conservatives see as his legacy. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 26, 2015 19:44:13 GMT -5
If Thomas is such a strict constructionist, shouldn't the vote be 5 to 3 and 3/5? Thomas' dissent and his views on human dignity, is absolutely disgusting.
Thomas argued that the Declaration of Independence affirmed that all humans were created in the vision of God and therefore enjoyed inherent worth.
Therefore, the conservative justice argued, the government cannot grant or take away a person’s dignity – and he offered some rather astounding examples to support his claims.
“Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved,” Thomas said. “Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away.” www.rawstory.com/2015/06/clarence-thomas-holds-some-pretty-horrifying-views-on-human-dignity/MLK is spinning in his grave, that THIS person is whom many conservatives see as his legacy. I don't think he's spinning in his grave, people have different opinions and that's okay. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 26, 2015 19:44:22 GMT -5
I just realized that in just one week Obamacare was upheld by the SCOTUS, the rebel flag was removed from decent society, and gay marriage was legalized in all fifty states. A good week indeed  It does make me sad the rebel flag can't be a historical thing, but it's clear that people use it as a symbol of racism, so removing it is the right call. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jun 26, 2015 19:45:26 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of either Justice Thomas or Mrs. Clinton. Both are powerful authority figures with very thick skins and tremendous influence over public policy, and by extension peoples' lives. I also believe that good satire punches upward, and to paraphrase The Man, "With great power comes great punchability."
It's perfectly okay to lampoon such people. In fact, it's our duty as citizens. We should always endeavor to speak truth to power using all available expressions of disapproval. This includes censure, condemnation, denunciation, disparagement, opprobrium, fault-finding, stricture, recrimination, and my personal favorite sarcasm.
Carry on, Slam. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 26, 2015 19:47:16 GMT -5
If Thomas is such a strict constructionist, shouldn't the vote be 5 to 3 and 3/5? Thomas' dissent and his views on human dignity, is absolutely disgusting.
Thomas argued that the Declaration of Independence affirmed that all humans were created in the vision of God and therefore enjoyed inherent worth.
Therefore, the conservative justice argued, the government cannot grant or take away a person’s dignity – and he offered some rather astounding examples to support his claims.
“Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved,” Thomas said. “Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away.” www.rawstory.com/2015/06/clarence-thomas-holds-some-pretty-horrifying-views-on-human-dignity/MLK is spinning in his grave, that THIS person is whom many conservatives see as his legacy. There has to be some more context there that makes sense.. because that sounds really terrible as is there. I can't imagine anyone of any race, creed or religion meaning what that seems to mean. |
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It does make me sad the rebel flag can't be a historical thing, but it's clear that people use it as a symbol of racism, so removing it is the right call.