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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 3, 2016 23:02:36 GMT -5
This is such an odd feeling watching the latest GOP debate : when Rubio and Cruz spend all their time attacking Trump instead of answering their questions, using the lamest techniques, you strangely find yourself rooting for Trump... And the moderators don't help by craving specific answers and giving contradiction only to Trump. This just is becoming a bigger disaster by the minute, but it's not even funny anymore.... Fox News is trying to coldcock Trump, pulling out all the heavy artillery against him. (So much for fair and balanced.) The GOP is in chaos now: nobody knows what should be done, nobody knows whom to trust. Republicans are of course reaping the whirlwind, as they have fed the monster for years now and the monster is getting too big to control. The monster feeds on fear and hate and the pary of angry white men has been feeding it well. Now they are afraid that Trump could become President, not b/c he will be ruinous for the country, but because he will be ruinous for them. Remember, they already had a lazy, coarse dimwit in the White House eight years ago, but he was their lazy, coarse dimwit who did as he was told by the likes of Cheney and Rumsfeld. They hauled out the Slick Hulk to fight the Orange Hulk earlier today, and the former wound up accusing the latter of the same evils of which he's guilty: spoiled rich kid who lays waste to companies, fires hundreds, resells companies for a profit, and reverses positions on anything just to be elected. And now Kasich wants "boots on the ground" (Ugh, am I sick of that cliche) again. Because it worked so well before. That political discourse in our country has been reduced to penis jokes and insult humor by sanctimonious punks playing "badass" (in just the way mrp described in in another thread) is difficult to accept as "just a phase" or "just politics." What a debacle. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 19:43:09 GMT -5
Yeah, how could decades of cultivating an uneducated, anti intellectual crowd of bigots possibly go wrong? When they worship reality stars over the Party. Ted Nugent could have won this primary. S**t, Mama June could win the primary. She's been on TV, she's f*****g trash, and people find her entertaining. That's what it takes right now. Sarah Palin was the turning point. It's the result of years of running candidates who absolutely refuse to believe in evolution or global warming, but are quick to believe whatever anti Obama conspiracy crosses their path. It's the result of convincing their constituents that fact check organizations are liars, that every news outlet except for Fox has an agenda, that "intellectuals" want to destroy their way of life. They thought flooding formerly educational channels like Discovery and TLC with conservative mouthpieces would help turn lazy couch potatoes further to the right, but instead they cultivated a constituency that thinks Phil Robertson knows what the f**k he's talking about. And the Robertson's and Duggars are not a product of Koch think tanks, they're going to say what they're going to say, and the audience eats it up, even if it's too blunt for mainstream politics. They'll fix it, but not before the primaries are over.
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Post by the4thpip on Mar 5, 2016 5:34:21 GMT -5
When I saw this I thought it was probably about providing meals in accordance with service members religious guidelines. Which is something that should be accommodated.
Then I read the article and found out he was talking about gluten-free meals for service members with celiac disease. Just when I thought my opinion of him couldn't go lower, he found a way to prove me wrong.
And just in case you get second thoughts, watch this to see how cruel he is to Stevie Wonder. I've always wanted to produce a dark, manic cover version of that song with a singer like Tori Amos or Sinead O'Conner, because the lyric works really well as a story about hidden love that cannot be for various reasons until the protagonist simply cannot go on living that way. I think Cruz proved me right here about the inherent cruelty of the song. |
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Post by dupersuper on Mar 8, 2016 4:55:57 GMT -5
Can this humble Canadian please request that, though there are legimate concerns one might have with Hillary Clinton and I know I'm pulling for Sanders, if she's the Democratic candidate, please vote for her. The Republican candidates and - even more so - the racist segment among the Trump supporters scare the shit out of me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 19:13:41 GMT -5
Can this humble Canadian please request that, though there are legimate concerns one might have with Hillary Clinton and I know I'm pulling for Sanders, if she's the Democratic candidate, please vote for her. The Republican candidates and - even more so - the racist segment among the Trump supporters scare the shit out of me. What i've been saying for well over a month now. |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 8, 2016 22:05:40 GMT -5
Sanders is killing it in Michigan!
Michigan · 130 delegates
47% reporting
Votes
Bernie Sanders
49.9% 278,268
Hillary Clinton
48.3% 269,383
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Post by shaxper on Mar 8, 2016 22:07:51 GMT -5
Can this humble Canadian please request that, though there are legimate concerns one might have with Hillary Clinton and I know I'm pulling for Sanders, if she's the Democratic candidate, please vote for her. The Republican candidates and - even more so - the racist segment among the Trump supporters scare the shit out of me. On the one hand, I absolutely defy the idea that one should vote for a party as opposed to a candidate. I've never voted for a Republican governor or president, but I absolutely would if one came around that made sense to me. I do believe that there are GOOD people in that party, but precious few are in positions of influence. But, looking at the current Republican playing field, yeah, I'd do whatever I could to make sure none of them made it to office in this election. Don't be fooled by Kasich's attempt to seem middle of the road, either. I live in his state. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 8, 2016 22:12:54 GMT -5
Can this humble Canadian please request that, though there are legimate concerns one might have with Hillary Clinton and I know I'm pulling for Sanders, if she's the Democratic candidate, please vote for her. The Republican candidates and - even more so - the racist segment among the Trump supporters scare the shit out of me. On the one hand, I absolutely defy the idea that one should vote for a party as opposed to a candidate. I've never voted for a Republican governor or president, but I absolutely would if one came around that made sense to me. I do believe that there are GOOD people in that party, but precious few are in positions of influence. But, looking at the current Republican playing field, yeah, I'd do whatever I could to make sure none of them made it to office in this election. Don't be fooled by Kasich's attempt to seem middle of the road, either. I live in his state. Kasich loves him some fracking and charter schools, doesn't he? There just isn't a middle of the Republican road. |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 8, 2016 22:18:33 GMT -5
On the one hand, I absolutely defy the idea that one should vote for a party as opposed to a candidate. I've never voted for a Republican governor or president, but I absolutely would if one came around that made sense to me. I do believe that there are GOOD people in that party, but precious few are in positions of influence. But, looking at the current Republican playing field, yeah, I'd do whatever I could to make sure none of them made it to office in this election. Don't be fooled by Kasich's attempt to seem middle of the road, either. I live in his state. Kasich loves him some fracking and charter schools, doesn't he? There just isn't a middle of the Republican road. Fracking has its pros and cons, but requires careful oversight in order to be done safely. Charter Schools are not a bad idea in concept, but a level playing field without corruption scandals and cronieism is required. But really, that's not even the beginning of what Kasich has done here with his ultra conservative slash and burn agenda. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 8, 2016 22:25:01 GMT -5
Kasich loves him some fracking and charter schools, doesn't he? There just isn't a middle of the Republican road. Charter Schools are not a bad idea in concept, but a level playing field without corruption scandals and cronieism is required. Agreed about Charter Schools and that also goes for the public school system and the Teachers Union as well. I see nothing wrong with an alternative in educational systems and the competition which theoretically will raise standards for both methods |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 8, 2016 22:28:30 GMT -5
Charter Schools are not a bad idea in concept, but a level playing field without corruption scandals and cronieism is required. Agreed about Charter Schools and that also goes for the public school system and the Teachers Union as well. I see nothing wrong with an alternative in educational systems and the competition which theoretically will raise standards for both methods A level playing field, in my mind, also means that Charter Schools must allow their labor to unionize, and also that they must take everyone, not just the students they want. School choice works if what you're choosing is a vision and a style of leadership. If a private person or group thinks they have an idea for how to do education better, DO IT and raise the bar for the public competition. But if what's making you more successful is taking advantage of your labor and keeping out the problem kids and (worse yet) the disabled kids because they are too expensive, that's crap. And it's exactly what's happening (plus the funding inequities, inflating of grades, kickbacks and cronieism, etc). |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 8, 2016 23:08:54 GMT -5
Agreed about Charter Schools and that also goes for the public school system and the Teachers Union as well. I see nothing wrong with an alternative in educational systems and the competition which theoretically will raise standards for both methods A level playing field, in my mind, also means that Charter Schools must allow their labor to unionize, and also that they must take everyone, not just the students they want. School choice works if what you're choosing is a vision and a style of leadership. If a private person or group thinks they have an idea for how to do education better, DO IT and raise the bar for the public competition. But if what's making you more successful is taking advantage of your labor and keeping out the problem kids and (worse yet) the disabled kids because they are too expensive, that's crap. And it's exactly what's happening (plus the funding inequities, inflating of grades, kickbacks and cronieism, etc).And as I said, that bolded section happens in the public sector as well, for many decades in in huge inner city areas. Plus, in America, at least the America I believe in, there should be a choice of belonging in a union or not. If you want union protection as a teacher than work in the public sector. If not, then you have a choice via charter schools. And if you have laws mandating certain amenities for handling disabled people, then the cost of such amenities should be shared with the government that created those laws. That only seems fair to me Students that are persistantly disruptive should, after a certain amount of instances and depending on the severity of their crimes, be forced out of the charter school. They would need to be placed in the public or special institution that can address their particular needs. I'm not referring to a juvenile detention necessarily, but humans are not created from a cookie-cutter and are all the same. Some are, for different reasons, hopelessly disruptive and need an enlightened environment for their situation instead of causing chaos among the general population I'm sure there's items here you might not agree with me but we'll have to agree to disagree instead of uselessly trying to indoctrinate one of us to the opposite side |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 8, 2016 23:21:06 GMT -5
Man o man, I hope I didn't come off as some crotchety old republican
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 23:26:18 GMT -5
When tradesmen say "I want this great job but I don't want to be a part of the union" I have zero pity for them. The whole reason the job is great is the union. You don't like it, Target is pretty anti union, you'll love it there.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 8, 2016 23:33:45 GMT -5
When tradesmen say "I want this great job but I don't want to be a part of the union" I have zero pity for them. The whole reason the job is great is the union. You don't like it, Target is pretty anti union, you'll love it there. I've worked about 6 different places in the past 40 years and have not been part of a union. Workers were treated very fairly including myself. These companies are in competition to find and retain good employees. You don't necessarily need a union for that |
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