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Post by zaku on May 20, 2024 4:58:07 GMT -5
Thank you. My humble opinion is that I would like to read your reviews forever (which always comfort me on difficult days), so it is very difficult for me to suggest a place to stop. Logically speaking, I would probably propose arriving just before Flashpoint, where in theory the character's current continuity ends, but I understand that at this rate it would be a titanic undertaking!
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Post by shaxper on May 20, 2024 6:03:55 GMT -5
Thank you. My humble opinion is that I would like to read your reviews forever (which always comfort me on difficult days), so it is very difficult for me to suggest a place to stop. Logically speaking, I would probably propose arriving just before Flashpoint, where in theory the character's current continuity ends, but I understand that at this rate it would be a titanic undertaking! That's very kind of you. Considering that this thread has been running since (I think) 2012 (it was begun over at the old CBR), I'm sure I can push on to Flashpoint if that's where this project feels like it needs to go. However, if I do stop before that, it will allow me to divert more time and energy to other review threads, so hopefully you'd end up enjoying one of those, too!
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Post by zaku on May 20, 2024 10:01:04 GMT -5
Thank you. My humble opinion is that I would like to read your reviews forever (which always comfort me on difficult days), so it is very difficult for me to suggest a place to stop. Logically speaking, I would probably propose arriving just before Flashpoint, where in theory the character's current continuity ends, but I understand that at this rate it would be a titanic undertaking! That's very kind of you. Considering that this thread has been running since (I think) 2012 (it was begun over at the old CBR), I'm sure I can push on to Flashpoint if that's where this project feels like it needs to go. However, if I do stop before that, it will allow me to divert more time and energy to other review threads, so hopefully you'd end up enjoying one of those, too! I was thinking that another point where an interruption would have its own logic is immediately after Infinite Crisis and before One Year Later (2006)(I don't know if you remember, Dc comics restarted as if a year had passed in the internal continuity of the characters).
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Post by shaxper on May 20, 2024 10:57:44 GMT -5
That's very kind of you. Considering that this thread has been running since (I think) 2012 (it was begun over at the old CBR), I'm sure I can push on to Flashpoint if that's where this project feels like it needs to go. However, if I do stop before that, it will allow me to divert more time and energy to other review threads, so hopefully you'd end up enjoying one of those, too! I was thinking that another point where an interruption would have its own logic is immediately after Infinite Crisis and before One Year Later (2006)(I don't know if you remember, Dc comics restarted as if a year had passed in the internal continuity of the characters). I sure do. I returned to DC specifically because I hoped OYL would be a strong jumping-back-on point. It wasn't.
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Post by Duragizer on May 24, 2024 21:04:45 GMT -5
The post-Crisis, Birthright, and post-Infinite Crisis Supermen aren't the same character, so I don't see the purpose of covering any storylines published after September 2003. YMMV.
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Post by zaku on May 25, 2024 1:14:36 GMT -5
The post- Crisis, Birthright, and post- Infinite Crisis Supermen aren't the same character, so I don't see the purpose of covering any storylines published after September 2003. YMMV. This is a quite extreme view. DC universe was really rebooted only two times, Post COIE and Nu52. The rest were just "adjustments" to his continuity caused by various events. In Infinite Crisis they explicitly stated that Birthright Superman was the same of Post Coie. Some events in his past were retroactively changed by Superboy-prime intervations
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Post by Duragizer on May 25, 2024 4:05:55 GMT -5
The post- Crisis, Birthright, and post- Infinite Crisis Supermen aren't the same character, so I don't see the purpose of covering any storylines published after September 2003. YMMV. This is a quite extreme view. DC universe was really rebooted only two times, Post COIE and Nu52. The rest were just "adjustments" to his continuity caused by various events. In Infinite Crisis they explicitly stated that Birthright Superman was the same of Post Coie. Some events in his past were retroactively changed by Superboy-prime intervations Man of Steel, Birthright, and the post-IC comics have Superman coming from three radically different, mutually exclusive versions of Krypton which aren't even all located in the same galaxy. The Clark/Superman duality's portrayed differently. Luthor goes from being a peer of Perry's to being a peer of Clark's whose parents die under completely different circumstances. Certain characters and scenarios from the Byrne run and Triangle Era simply couldn't be in the Birthright/post-IC continuities, at least not as originally depicted. Everything pertaining to the Pocket Universe for one example, or Luthor posing as his own son for another. Just 'cause all three Supermen got into fisticuffs with Doomsday doesn't make them the same individual. But as I said, YMMV.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 27, 2024 15:21:34 GMT -5
The post- Crisis, Birthright, and post- Infinite Crisis Supermen aren't the same character, so I don't see the purpose of covering any storylines published after September 2003. YMMV. This is a quite extreme view. DC universe was really rebooted only two times, Post COIE and Nu52. The rest were just "adjustments" to his continuity caused by various events. In Infinite Crisis they explicitly stated that Birthright Superman was the same of Post Coie. Some events in his past were retroactively changed by Superboy-prime intervations I disagree! Zero Hour was absolutely a reboot... the story line was literally that the universe was erased and remade, and every series had a 0 issue to explain what was different. That's just as big a change as Crisis IMO. FLashpoint is arguable, and since I didn't read it I'm not the one to make that argument, but it SEEMS like it was similar based on the stories before and after... but maybe post Flashpoint/pre-new 52 is really all the just the event. You're also leaving off Convergence, which ended New 52 and returned the DCU to the current mash up of the past that has never really been defined (no ever will, most likely) I haven't read enough post zero hour Superman to really speak to that specifically, but these days a character is whoever the current writer wants him to be without any particular reason to adhere to the past... bits the writer likes get used, and others either forgotten or contradicted. That's what happens when you try to have 80 years of continuity I think.
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Post by lordyam on Jun 2, 2024 16:02:01 GMT -5
I was thinking that another point where an interruption would have its own logic is immediately after Infinite Crisis and before One Year Later (2006)(I don't know if you remember, Dc comics restarted as if a year had passed in the internal continuity of the characters). I sure do. I returned to DC specifically because I hoped OYL would be a strong jumping-back-on point. It wasn't. I did love 52 though
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