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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 12:32:54 GMT -5
Things that I wanted to know
I always wanted to know how Jose became Gangbuster.
How Jimmy Olsen went about dating Lucy Lane.
Cat Grant's son ... I really do not know anything about him - a real mystery to me.
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Post by shaxper on Jun 22, 2016 13:28:31 GMT -5
Things that I wanted to knowI always wanted to know how Jose became Gangbuster. It happened during the Gangwar storyline from Marv Wolfman's run on Adventures of Superman. Jose Delgado was a guidance counselor who took up the mantle to find out who was militarizing gangs in the area that were recruiting his students (spoiler alert: it was Lex Luthor). I believe this was a carryover from the Pre-Crisis continuity. Nothing much to know. Young son of a divorced couple. There was a nasty custody battle, but Cat and her Ex seem reconciled now. |
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 22, 2016 13:55:54 GMT -5
- Will there ever be a "real" Bizarro in the Post-Crisis, or are we stuck with the lame clone concept we got in Man of Steel #5?
Bizarro will return in Superman 87 though this will be another clone rather than Byrne's. Personality-wise it'll be somewhere between Man of Steel 6's version and the pre-Crisis interpretation. So yeah, a bit of a wait.
You also mentioned Mxyzptlk earlier - his learning to lie will be brought up in Adventures 496 but I wouldn't say this appearance will bring him up another level in terms of how manipulative/clever/deceitful he can be beyond that story. It is a good issue though. In case you're wondering, I think he appears next during Krisis of the Krimson Kryptonite ("KKK? That's not good")
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Post by shaxper on Jun 22, 2016 15:19:19 GMT -5
I think he appears next during Krisis of the Krimson Kryptonite ("KKK? That's not good") Oh wow. And I already wasn't a fan of the misspellings! |
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Post by shaxper on Jun 22, 2016 19:57:18 GMT -5
The Adventures of Superman #465  writing and pencils: Dan Jurgens finished inks: Art Thibert letters: Albert Deguzman colors: Glenn Whitmore assoc editor: Jonathan Peterson editor: Mike Carlin grade: B The sad thing is that this issue is likely remembered less today for being part of the Post-Crisis Superman's first ever multi-title crossover (which is proving to be quite forgettable) and more for being the first appearance of Hank Henshaw  (only called "Hank" here) who is going to be a very big deal three years from now. Beyond that, The Day of the Krypton Man isn't amounting to much. All three of the aliens who spontaneously and conveniently decided to seek out Superman on Earth at the exact same time get deferred by the ends of their battles. No true winners, no true resolutions of long-standing conflicts. Superman fakes his own death to get out of his battle with Lobo, he captures Maxima but she immediately gets set free by the Feds, and here Draaga gets dragged away to safety before a very different-minded Kal-El can deal the death blow. Beyond that, Superman not behaving like himself feels like old, familiar territory (and Prof. Hamilton even notes as much). I suppose the big difference is that now he's cold and logical superego, whereas before he was unrestrained id, but really the only reason I think I'm enjoying this trip around is because of the ultra cool costume:  (still need to lose the shaving cream sleeves though) So Superman isn't himself, the world is questioning what he's doing, and Clark Kent's life is rapidly going down the tubes; it's all just an acceleration of what's been building for months now, and (again) I feel like we've been here before. Fortunately, I remain a big fan of Jurgens' writing and art, though his stationary drawing  is a LOT stronger than his action sequences:  I had to look at that one for several moments before deciding that Superman was in mid-swing in that first panel and not just holding a boulder over Draaga. Important Details:- Jose Delgado, now unemployed and evicted, finally returns as Gangbuster:  Just as in the past, he's more guts than know-how and very nearly gets himself killed again, if not for the intervention of Kal-El -Clark Kent has been fired from Newsstime and has been evicted from his apartment (parallels, anyone?) Minor Details:- If Kal-El no longer cares about preserving his dual identities, that means he isn't vibrating his head at super fast speeds anymore to keep the video feed of his battle with Draaga (being broadcast all across the world) from capturing the details of his face. Sure enough, Pa Kent can make out his features perfectly:  so isn't SOMEONE who's watching going to figure out Superman is Clark Kent? I'm sure both Lex Luthor and Amanda McCoy are watching this. We did have VCRs and "record" buttons in 1990... - Andrea McElroy is finally back after making one brief appearance eight months ago:  Just prior to that first appearance, the letter page had hinted that a new love interest for Clark was on the way. I naturally assumed it was going to be McElroy. Then she vanished for eight months, and I began to suspect it would be Clark's new secretary at Newsstime, Mara Talbot, instead. Now that Clark won't be at Newsstime anymore, I wonder again if it will be Andrea (or if the idea has been scrapped entirely). - Kal-El has now forsworn protecting mankind from itself any longer. - Banks sure get robbed a lot in Metropolis, and Jose Delgado always seems to be there when they do. plot synopsis: Kal-El is about to deal the deathblow to Draaga, much to the horror of those watching who realize that it's Superman, but Prof. Hamilton teleports him away at the last moment, leaving Kraamdan to drag an unconscious Draaga home to safety. Prof. Hamilton tries to talk sense into Kal-El but gets nowhere, Clark gets fired from Newsstime and evicted from his apartment, some astronauts in space have lost containment on a radiation experiment they are conducting in space, Gangbuster returns to crime fighting and has an unpleasant run-in with Kal-El, after which Kal-El decides not to help humans anymore, the Kents travel to Metropolis to find out what's wrong with Clark, and Kal-El retreats to the Fortress of Solitude, seemingly no longer interested in Earth. |
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Post by shaxper on Jun 22, 2016 20:32:05 GMT -5
George Perez's Legacy: The Eradicator DeviceAction Comics #652 will mark Perez' final work on the Post-Crisis Superman franchise under Mike Carlin. His eleven month run didn't quite yield the expected results, due either to Perez being over-committed to other projects or to health issues, but he did help return Superman to his Pre-Crisis/Iconic characterization (even if Ordway and Stern had already been working towards this before his arrival) and, most importantly, he gave us The Eradicator Device. Whether you liked the concept or not, it was unmistakably intertwined with Perez, first being introduced in Action Comics Annual #2 (Perez' first issue) and now reaching its final conclusion in Action Comics #652 (Perez' final issue). In between, it was a significant presence in nearly every single Superman, Adventures of Superman, and Action Comics story published during that time. Don't believe me? A quick search reveals that I mention "eradicator" by name in fourteen of the thirty three reviews I wrote since Perez came aboard. I'm sure that, if you added to those results every review where I discussed Clark not being himself or referred to "the device Cleric gave him", you'd have closer to thirty. For comparison's sake "Lois" is mentioned seventeen times in that same stretch, and "Olsen" is mentioned fifteen. So, love it or hate it, The Eradicator Device appears to be the mark that Perez left on the Post-Crisis Superman franchise, and it was probably the single most prevalent character/concept in the series next to Superman himself during Perez's time.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 22, 2016 21:34:16 GMT -5
The Adventures of Superman #465 Minor Details:- If Kal-El no longer cares about preserving his dual identities, that means he isn't vibrating his head at super fast speeds anymore to keep the video feed of his battle with Draaga (being broadcast all across the world) from capturing the details of his face. Sure enough, Pa Kent can make out his features perfectly: so isn't SOMEONE who's watching going to figure out Superman is Clark Kent? I'm sure both Lex Luthor and Amanda McCoy are watching this. We did have VCRs and "record" buttons in 1990...
Wait a minute... is he still doing that? I understand him making his debut and exercising a certain amount of caution in the months following, but you'd think he'd get sick of shaking his head back and forth constantly every time someone might film/photograph him.
Has the Daily Planet been filled with nothing but blurry pictures of Superman year after year at this point? Do people think he suffers from tremors and are just too nice to ask him about it?
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Post by shaxper on Jun 22, 2016 21:36:20 GMT -5
The Adventures of Superman #465 Minor Details:- If Kal-El no longer cares about preserving his dual identities, that means he isn't vibrating his head at super fast speeds anymore to keep the video feed of his battle with Draaga (being broadcast all across the world) from capturing the details of his face. Sure enough, Pa Kent can make out his features perfectly: so isn't SOMEONE who's watching going to figure out Superman is Clark Kent? I'm sure both Lex Luthor and Amanda McCoy are watching this. We did have VCRs and "record" buttons in 1990...
Wait a minute... is he still doing that? I understand him making his debut and exercising a certain amount of caution in the months following, but you'd think he'd get sick of shaking his head back and forth constantly every time someone might film/photograph him.
Has the Daily Planet been filled with nothing but blurry pictures of Superman year after year at this point? Do people think he suffers from tremors and are just too nice to ask him about it?
LOL (and that's not an acronym I use lightly  ) It was last mentioned by Byrne in World of Metropolis #4 immediately before his departure seventeen months ago. Here's what I wrote about it then: We think along similar lines. |
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Post by Action Ace on Jun 23, 2016 1:09:03 GMT -5
Wait a minute... is he still doing that? I understand him making his debut and exercising a certain amount of caution in the months following, but you'd think he'd get sick of shaking his head back and forth constantly every time someone might film/photograph him.
Has the Daily Planet been filled with nothing but blurry pictures of Superman year after year at this point? Do people think he suffers from tremors and are just too nice to ask him about it?
LOL (and that's not an acronym I use lightly ) It was last mentioned by Byrne in World of Metropolis #4 immediately before his departure seventeen months ago. Here's what I wrote about it then: We think along similar lines. In the first couple of years of the current Flash tv show, Barry has been doing the shaky head thing with a voice modulator to protect his secret identity. Or maybe Superman just has the essential tremor disorder like Katherine Hepburn. |
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Post by Action Ace on Jun 23, 2016 1:10:00 GMT -5
I don't remember if we'd seen plain ol' super-breath at this point, but we've seen him suck poison gas into his lungs and expel it into space twice (Man of Steel 2 and Batman: Death in the Family...something about hanging with Batman seems to vastly increase the odds of poison clouds). Now I get to figure out what the heck to call that for the Powers/Abilities section, because "Super Sucking" just isn't going to do it. Super sucking is definitely one of Lobo's powers/ abilities. |
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Post by Action Ace on Jun 23, 2016 1:21:11 GMT -5
George Perez's Legacy: The Eradicator DeviceAction Comics #652 will mark Perez' final work on the Post-Crisis Superman franchise under Mike Carlin. His eleven month run didn't quite yield the expected results, due either to Perez being over-committed to other projects or to health issues, but he did help return Superman to his Pre-Crisis/Iconic characterization (even if Ordway and Stern had already been working towards this before his arrival) and, most importantly, he gave us The Eradicator Device. Whether you liked the concept or not, it was unmistakably intertwined with Perez, first being introduced in Action Comics Annual #2 (Perez' first issue) and now reaching its final conclusion in Action Comics #652 (Perez' final issue). In between, it was a significant presence in nearly every single Superman, Adventures of Superman, and Action Comics story published during that time. Don't believe me? A quick search reveals that I mention "eradicator" by name in fourteen of the thirty three reviews I wrote since Perez came aboard. I'm sure that, if you added to those results every review where I discussed Clark not being himself or referred to "the device Cleric gave him", you'd have closer to thirty. For comparison's sake "Lois" is mentioned seventeen times in that same stretch, and "Olsen" is mentioned fifteen. So, love it or hate it, The Eradicator Device appears to be the mark that Perez left on the Post-Crisis Superman franchise, and it was probably the single most prevalent character/concept in the series next to Superman himself during Perez's time. And the villainous Eradicator in a humanoid form appears in Superman: Rebirth #1. The concept lives on. |
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Post by Action Ace on Jun 23, 2016 1:29:49 GMT -5
Cyborg Superman also lives on in the pages of the Supergirl comic, but the name Hank Henshaw is being used by someone else on her tv show.
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Post by shaxper on Jun 23, 2016 7:02:38 GMT -5
Cyborg Superman also lives on in the pages of the Supergirl comic, but the name Hank Henshaw is being used by someone else on her tv show. I've only seen the first few episodes, but I figured they were going to eventually go the evil cyborg route with him. Of course, two cyborgs in the DC multimedia-verse might be confusing for fans. |
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Post by Action Ace on Jun 23, 2016 19:23:23 GMT -5
Cyborg Superman also lives on in the pages of the Supergirl comic, but the name Hank Henshaw is being used by someone else on her tv show. I've only seen the first few episodes, but I figured they were going to eventually go the evil cyborg route with him. Of course, two cyborgs in the DC multimedia-verse might be confusing for fans. You figured wrong. You might want to check some spoilers (if you don't want to watch more episodes) and find out who he really turned out to be. |
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Post by shaxper on Jun 23, 2016 19:25:50 GMT -5
I've only seen the first few episodes, but I figured they were going to eventually go the evil cyborg route with him. Of course, two cyborgs in the DC multimedia-verse might be confusing for fans. You figured wrong. You might want to check some spoilers (if you don't want to watch more episodes) and find out who he really turned out to be. I intend to watch more...eventually. |
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