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Post by shaxper on Jul 2, 2022 8:38:03 GMT -5
Yes, plus he and Superman are on good terms ever since Dark Night Over Metropolis. I don't remember, it was still the "BWAWAWAWAWA" JLA era at the time? Yes. That version of the Justice League is still going in JLA, JLE, and JLI.
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Post by Chris on Jul 2, 2022 14:58:16 GMT -5
One of the problems with Byrne's set-up is that most people aren't supposed to know that Luthor is a bad guy. Given the fact that Luthor should therefore be his primary opponent, Superman can't help but look pretty ineffectual, at least to the readers, if he's made so little headway against his Number One Foe that few people even know that they're enemies. As his number two opponent, Brainiac probably isn't known to the world at large except perhaps as a cheap carnival barker who Superman might have arrested once. So at this point in time, Superman's top foe is who? Mxyzptlk? Prankster? Toyman? Hardly the thing a reputation as a Superhero's Superhero is born from. Retroactively taking him out of the JLA doesn't help either, now he's no longer the top dog of the world's greatest superheroes. I can just see the League sitting around saying things like "Sure, Superman's great at stopping asteroids, heck he's the best at it, but that's basic Superhero 101 stuff. He isn't very effective at anything more complex or pro-active." Even non-powered hero Gangbuster, who was a total newbie, got a couple of people to realize that just maybe Luthor wasn't all that and a bag of Frito-Lay's. I didn't think he looked ineffectual at all. He foiled every plan Luthor threw at him, and made Luthor look very foolish each time. But did the general public know this? I thought most confrontations were a variation on 'Luthor attacks Superman with LexCorp tech/Superman defeats Luthor's plan/Luthor 'reveals' that said 'tech', 'henchman', 'whatever', had been fired/reported stolen/whatever/story ends with Luthor in the clear'. Now that I think about that, it adds another layer to this - that of Luthor the incompetent, bringing both of them down to a level not much higher than a sitcom duo. Again, I'm picturing a discussion in Metropolis going something like - Random citizen 1: "How can Lex Luthor be such a mega-successful businessman when he can't even afford good locks to the doors of his laboratories? I work in a coffee shop and our safe has better security than that." Random citizen 2: "Yeah, I know. And why is Superman always cleaning up after this guy? Can't he, like, bend some steel into stronger doors for Lexcorp or something so this doesn't happen in the first place?"
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 2, 2022 22:59:11 GMT -5
The trouble with Batman is that everyone hates him. Right, which is why it should be Nightwing. He's just as good at planning and not an A-hole.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 3, 2022 5:37:13 GMT -5
The trouble with Batman is that everyone hates him. Right, which is why it should be Nightwing. He's just as good at planning and not an A-hole. They had a storyline in the 90's where the JLA disappeared and they replaced them with various characters and Nightwing was the leader.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 3, 2022 18:38:28 GMT -5
they've had a good 10 stories like that.. most elseworlds, yet somehow it never sticks. It's very annoying.
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Post by badwolf on Jul 4, 2022 9:47:28 GMT -5
Right, which is why it should be Nightwing. He's just as good at planning and not an A-hole. They had a storyline in the 90's where the JLA disappeared and they replaced them with various characters and Nightwing was the leader. Oh, that was the one where they were trapped in the past wasn't it? Hawkwoman and Green Arrow came in as replacements too.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 11, 2022 12:42:52 GMT -5
Adventures of Superman #488 (March 1992) "Panic in the Sky! Counter Strike! Script: Jerry Ordway Pencils: Tom Grummett Inks: Doug Hazlewood Colors: Glenn Whitmore Letters: Albert DeGuzman Grade: B+ If the last three chapters of Panic in The Sky were all setup, here comes the pay-off. Pages upon pages of action, Superman unquestionably functioning as the head honcho of the DCU once more, and two teams of DC's greatest heroes, one defending Earth from attack while the other takes the fight back to Brainiac Truly, this could have been DC's greatest company-wide event had they chosen to go that route, but maybe it not being a company-wide event is why it works: only four cooks in the kitchen as opposed to dozens. Really though, the action is great, the inter-character dialogue is pretty fun, and the pacing is working well, here. Sure, we still have no idea what Brainiac's actual motives are (revenge? Conquest of the only heroes capable of stopping him? We just don't know, and I'm beginning to worry that the writers don't either), and Brainiac is essentially undone by his own inability to plan properly as opposed to anything the DC heroes do to catch him off-guard: Brainiac in chapter 0: Ha! I can use my mental powers to turn all of these characters against Superman! Brainiac in this issue: Oh, actually I can't! That's pretty much the entire explanation for his downfall. And really, if he is that bad at properly estimating his own abilities, how has he managed to maintain control of Warworld in the background while all this is happening? Still, all in all, it's a truly fun story that might have been even more fun as a crossover, even if it's not a Superman story and it's totally devoid of logic. Worth a read, but not worthy of careful consideration the way so much of the rest of this run is. If anything, this feels like DC trying to be 1992 Marvel for once. I'm still confused as to why this wasn't greenlit for a company-wide event. Were retailers just that burned in the wake of War of the Gods? Important Details:1. Matrix/Supergirl is back to normal and, presumably, ready to function as an Earth-based hero: Minor Details:1. Wheras several characters who really didn't deserve it were enjoying A list status in previous issues, either because they were hot with fans or because someone was trying to help sell their books, each gets put in their place this time around. Aquaman gets demoted to the Earth defense team (which enjoys a lot less of the spotlight), Agent Liberty gets to talk exactly twice and gets majorly checked the second time: and Deathstroke gets forgotten for most of this issue, apparently having been on the A team all along when he finally shows up in tertiary view for this panel: Superman supposedly hired him to be his general and a brilliant tactician, but he is involved in none of the strategizing and speaks exactly four times in the issue, only one of those times being an order. 2. Speaking of characters who didn't show up much, I know it's a common struggle for DC writers to make use of speedsters without making them overpowered, but you can't include Flash in the A team and then literally never show him for the rest of the story. He could have wiped the floor with Mongul and Maxima single-handedly. Come to think of it, though it's been established that Superman is not as fast as Flash in the Post-Crisis (as well as the fact that even the Wally West Flash is not as fast as his predecessor), Superman still has superspeed that he is not using. Shouldn't that give him the edge against these opponents? 3. I'm deeply troubled by the logic that the B team, made up of DC's less powerful heroes, are left to fight a hoard of invading War World arena fighters. These are the best fighters from the most brutal planet in the galaxy, many so strong that they nearly killed Superman back during the Exile storyline, but Thorn and The Guardian are going to take them down?? Nightwing tries to explain it away:
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 11, 2022 13:51:22 GMT -5
Someone, at some point, thought that the design of this goateed Brainiac was superior to the original or to the robotic one.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Aug 11, 2022 15:16:51 GMT -5
Were retailers just that burned in the wake of War of the Gods (which, by the way, never touched this franchise for some reason)? Wasn't Man of Steel #3 a tie-in? Maxima/Supergirl is back to normal and, presumably, ready to function as an Earth-based hero: Do you mean Matrix/Supergirl?
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Post by shaxper on Aug 11, 2022 15:36:49 GMT -5
Were retailers just that burned in the wake of War of the Gods (which, by the way, never touched this franchise for some reason)? Wasn't Man of Steel #3 a tie-in? Ah yes. Thanks for reminding me. It was a tie-in in the loosest of senses, of course, having absolutely no connection to the actual plot of War of The Gods. Maybe a little better than a "red skies" tie-in, I guess? [/quote] Whoops. Fixed.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 11, 2022 15:39:19 GMT -5
Someone, at some point, thought that the design of this goateed Brainiac was superior to the original or to the robotic one. That somebody was likely Jim Fern, and it happened here, the infamous moment where Fern and Alan Grant converted Brainiac from a menacing alien threat to a cheap rip-off of Ming The Merciless.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 21, 2022 20:56:40 GMT -5
Action Comics #675 (March 1992) "Divide and Conquer" Script: Roger Stern Pencils: Bob McLeod Inks: Denis Rodier Colors: Glenn Whitmore Letters: Bill Oakley Grade: B+ If I were twelve years old and reading this issue, I'd be eating it up. Tons of DC heroes, lots of action, and even the new complication of allies randomly turning into brainwashed Brainiac minions on a moment's notice would have ensured my total delight. Of course, as a significantly older adult, I can't help but see this story for its many many flaws. For example, just last issue, Brainiac lost mental control of Supergirl while concentrating on her with all of his effort, and yet he can control these heroes without even giving them a single conscious thought? I mean, he even does it to Guy Gardner and Killowog, two heroes for whom their will power IS their special ability: And how, exactly, is Killowog exerting his will power on Brainiac's behalf while Brainiac is overcoming his will?? Somehow, by the end of the issue, we're supposed to believe that Brainiac is now controlling all of these heroes without any kind of mental effort: ...even though he couldn't even manage to control one Supergirl while using all of his effort last issue? And then there's the super-cool coordinating of various heroes and agencies to push back the ground attack in Metropolis. It's really fun to watch at first: until you stop and realize that, actually, none of this was coordinated. The heroes didn't know the Special Crimes Unit was going to show when they did, and they certainly didn't know Team Luthor was on the way. Maybe Aquaman was planned (really, what else is the dude good for beyond lurking in the nearest body of water and hoping trouble comes to him?) but the rest boils down to blind stupid luck and narrative convenience. And then there's Brainiac, himself, playing an almost offensively generic stereotypical villain who constantly boasts that everything happening is part of his grand plan and yet is also constantly confounded by how quickly his plans fall apart: In addition to being able to mind control Earth's greatest superheroes, he has an entire invading fleet of the most feared soldiers in the galaxy at his disposal, but somehow each little surprise the heroes pull seems to to somehow threaten his victory in ways that aren't all that clear. And, by the way, that invading fleet that decimated countless worlds and made Warworld a name even Darkseid feared? Forgettable and expendable now: because even Gangbuster and Crimson Fox can now take out hoards of them without breaking a sweat, somehow. But perhaps the most upsetting part of this issue is that Brainiac finally explains his motives for attacking Earth, and it isn't satisfying at all: Even Brainiac isn't sure which motive is driving him here? He's amassed all this power and made a path directly for Earth, but he isn't totally sure why? And if it's to humble Superman, WHY? Supes was only one of many heroes who worked together to take Brainiac down the last time they met (Brainiac 5 being the more likely target for revenge in that circumstance), and Superman never managed to thwart Brainiac prior to that (though Brainiac did have reason to want to hurt Lex Luthor). So why Superman beyond the coincidence that he has four monthly titles and neither Brainiac 5 nor Lex Luthor have even one? So it's an exciting and thoroughly fun story if you don't think about it too much -- the kind of thing that was perfect for winning back all the adolescents who had fled to Marvel for similarly exciting but vapid stories -- but it's also extremely lazy. A generic villain with no motive and a constantly shifting power level (depending upon what the story needs from him) wages war on Earth that somehow only ends up affecting Metropolis, and the ultra feared war machine that we were told to dread ends up being totally ineffectual because the plot needs all the non-super powered DC heroes to have a way to be effective in this fight. It's crap. But it's really fun crap. Minor Details:1. Second appearance of Team Luthor (which hasn't been seen since they first appeared three months/twelve issues back).
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Post by shaxper on Nov 9, 2022 22:57:07 GMT -5
I wish I'd realized earlier that the 30th anniversary of the Death of Superman was coming up. I'm only 27 reviews away!
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Post by zaku on Nov 10, 2022 1:55:22 GMT -5
I wish I'd realized earlier that the 30th anniversary of the Death of Superman was coming up. I'm only 27 reviews away! So soon!?! By reading your reviews, it almost seems that post-crisis Superman was barely making his first baby steps 😅
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Post by Chris on Nov 10, 2022 3:37:21 GMT -5
I wish I'd realized earlier that the 30th anniversary of the Death of Superman was coming up. I'm only 27 reviews away! *cough* *cough*You also said (I think) that you were only planning to review to the end of the "Death of Superman" storyline. You're not that far off. Also, you are at right about January 1992, and it's presently January 2022, so one review a week can keep you at a constant "30 years ago in Superman comics..." til the end. Told ya. Also, just for fun... Having said that, choose whatever interests you most. As long as it has Bob Rozakis stories, of course, so I can re-script them for you. 'Cause, you know, Rescripted Rozakis is fun.
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