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Post by shaxper on Oct 31, 2016 19:43:58 GMT -5
The fact that the event was announced without a creative team assigned would suggest the only driving force was money. Our best hope is that some creative team who sees potential in the idea is begging to be assigned to the project as we speak. I was really hoping the Tarzan cross over would be a signal for better stories but it seems cash is still king over quality. I wish Dark Horse would pick up PotA. Dark Horse had POTA once before, and they dropped the ball, trying so hard to tie in with the (then) current film that they turned their back on the meat and potatoes of the franchise. Boom! has royally wrong-turned with POTA in most senses, but I at least respect their attempting to stay true to the original concept and not fall head over heels trying to cater to the new films.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 31, 2016 19:48:02 GMT -5
I was really hoping the Tarzan cross over would be a signal for better stories but it seems cash is still king over quality. I wish Dark Horse would pick up PotA. Dark Horse had POTA once before, and they dropped the ball, trying so hard to tie in with the (then) current film that they turned their back on the meat and potatoes of the franchise. Boom! has royally wrong-turned with POTA in most senses, but I at least respect their attempting to stay true to the original concept and not fall head over heels trying to cater to the new films. It certainly would have been better if they had tied into the original films, but I thought the story by Dan Abnett was pretty decent.
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Post by shaxper on Oct 31, 2016 19:55:10 GMT -5
Dark Horse had POTA once before, and they dropped the ball, trying so hard to tie in with the (then) current film that they turned their back on the meat and potatoes of the franchise. Boom! has royally wrong-turned with POTA in most senses, but I at least respect their attempting to stay true to the original concept and not fall head over heels trying to cater to the new films. It certainly would have been better if they had tied into the original films, but I thought the story by Dan Abnett was pretty decent. Speaking of which, have you seen this yet? www.amazon.com/dp/1785652680/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=DPF3GHGST6N1&coliid=I2U25LCAW226OUIt's a collection of short stories, but one is by Abnett, and one is by Ty Templeton ( Revolution on the Planet of the Apes). Paul Kupperberg has a story in there too. Interesting to see so many comic writers (two coming from POTA comics) writing straight fiction. I'm seriously considering buying it and reviewing it for this thread, even if it isn't graphic in nature.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 31, 2016 19:56:58 GMT -5
I love short story collections AND Planet of the Apes so this definitely sounds like something I'd like. I'll keep my eyes peeled for it.
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Post by Rob Allen on Nov 1, 2016 13:53:09 GMT -5
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Post by shaxper on Nov 11, 2016 21:16:38 GMT -5
Tarzan on the Planet of the Apes #2 (Boom! and Dark Horse) writers: David Walker and Tim Seeley art: Fernando Dagnino colors: Sandra Molina letters: Nate Piekos editor: Scott Allie grade: B+ The first issue was certainly a tough act to follow, but there's still plenty of excellence floating around in this installment. From page 2, Walker and Seeley already have me excited when we learn that Tarzan's cousin has begun importing the apes that Zira and Cornelius had civilized and is using them for menial service, much as in Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, only in 1907 now that time and space have been messed with: And yet, while we're given a nice little fan-service conversation between Zira and her son about his name-change: and, by extension, his war-like philosophy as compared to their pacifist beliefs, this is an otherwise Tarzan-heavy installment that doesn't concern itself all that much with the Planet of the Apes material. But much of that comes from the plot returning to the jungle wildnerness from which Tarzan came. Once the fight returns to civilization and we see how the apes intersect with that society there, I suspect things will feel far more Conquest on the Planet of the Apes. In the meantime, while I'm not all that familiar with the Tarzan source material, I did catch this reference (unusually placed): but I'm not sure I'm supposed to understand what dinosaurs have to do with any of this: Are we crossing over with Turok: Son of Stone next? Strong execution, and the source material is still used respectfully and intelligently, but I'd like to see a little more emphasis on the apes next time around. Plot synopsis: William asks Tarzan and a servant gorilla to return with him to their tribe in an effort to quell the violent ape resistance that is beginning to take shape. Chimpanzee leader Gun-Ze has a problem with Tarzan appearing to work with the humans, but before much can be meted out, a pack of dinosaurs attacks.
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Post by brutalis on Nov 23, 2016 14:16:07 GMT -5
More Ape love for pre-order on Amazon:
Planet of the Apes Archive Vol. 1: Terror on the Planet of the Apes Hardcover – August 22, 2017
by Doug Moench (Author), Mike Ploog (Illustrator), & 1 more
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Longtime fans can now experience the previously uncollected classic Terror on the Planet of the Apes, which follows two friends—man and ape—on the run from the law.
Experience the legendary Terror on the Planet of the Apes, collected for the first time ever, and remastered in prestigious archival hardcover. This classic series follows two friends—man and ape—on the run from the law.
Renown writer Doug Moench (Batman), the visionary co-creator of DC Comics’ fan-favorite villain Bane and Marvel’s Moon Knight, joined forces with legendary artists Mike Ploog (Ghost Rider), Tom Sutton (Doctor Strange), and Herb Trimpe (Incredible Hulk) in this timeless tale of two unlikely friends coming together for the adventure of a lifetime.
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Post by shaxper on Nov 23, 2016 15:39:21 GMT -5
More Ape love for pre-order on Amazon: Planet of the Apes Archive Vol. 1: Terror on the Planet of the Apes Hardcover – August 22, 2017 by Doug Moench (Author), Mike Ploog (Illustrator), & 1 more See all formats and editions Hardcover $49.99 Longtime fans can now experience the previously uncollected classic Terror on the Planet of the Apes, which follows two friends—man and ape—on the run from the law. Experience the legendary Terror on the Planet of the Apes, collected for the first time ever, and remastered in prestigious archival hardcover. This classic series follows two friends—man and ape—on the run from the law. Renown writer Doug Moench (Batman), the visionary co-creator of DC Comics’ fan-favorite villain Bane and Marvel’s Moon Knight, joined forces with legendary artists Mike Ploog (Ghost Rider), Tom Sutton (Doctor Strange), and Herb Trimpe (Incredible Hulk) in this timeless tale of two unlikely friends coming together for the adventure of a lifetime. 'Bout time! I truly hope there will be a volume 2 that includes Moench's other POTA stories in the Marvel magazine that weren't tied to that continuity, including Derek Zane and The Future History Chronicles.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 25, 2016 10:28:12 GMT -5
I'm not sure where they're going with the dinosaurs either, other than as a symptom for messing with time but it should be interesting to see where it goes.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 25, 2016 19:48:53 GMT -5
I'm not sure where they're going with the dinosaurs either, other than as a symptom for messing with time but it should be interesting to see where it goes. They might be from Pal-Ul-don, too. The apes and the Tor-o-don have certain things in common.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 28, 2016 11:40:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure where they're going with the dinosaurs either, other than as a symptom for messing with time but it should be interesting to see where it goes. They might be from Pal-Ul-don, too. The apes and the Tor-o-don have certain things in common. How did I forget Tarzan the Terrible!? That one has some of my favorite art by Russ Manning.
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Post by rom on Nov 28, 2016 13:42:44 GMT -5
Definitely onboard with the "Terror on the Planet of the Apes" HC reprint coming out next year, which is reprinting stories from the '70's POTA b&w magazine. I have been waiting for reprints of this mag. for years. BOOM first announced they were going to reprint these stories several years ago - I think the volume had been solicited, but never materialized. Really dug the gritty stories, many of which were drawn by the unparelleled & underrated artist Mike Ploog. I hope that this volume is actually released. I would actually be onboard with seeing the entire POTA b&w magazine reprinted. Here's a cover gallery - great painted color covers!: pota.goatley.com/marvel/Also, Marvel reprinted the POTA & Beneath the POTA film adaptations in color, in a separate 11-issue comic series: space1970.blogspot.com/2013/01/adventures-on-planet-of-apes-1975.html
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Post by shaxper on Nov 28, 2016 13:53:14 GMT -5
Those actually came from the b/w mags but were then colored for traditional format release. I believe they adapted all five of the films, but I could be wrong.
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Post by rom on Nov 28, 2016 14:10:15 GMT -5
Those actually came from the b/w mags but were then colored for traditional format release. I believe they adapted all five of the films, but I could be wrong. Right - the 11-issue color POTA series just reprinted the first two film adaptations - which were originally printed in b&w in the mag. AFAIK, Marvel did adapt all five original POTA films in the b&w POTA mag. All were excellent adaptations, and I actually preffered some of them to the film versions - notably Conquest of the POTA & Battle for the POTA (the last two). The film versions were very low-budget, but the comic adaptations were excellent! At least one of these had amazing art by Alfredo Alcala (or Tony DeZuniga).
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Post by shaxper on Mar 27, 2017 13:25:12 GMT -5
Tarzan on the Planet of the Apes #3 (Boom! and Dark Horse) writers: David Walker and Tim Seeley art: Fernando Dagnino colors: Sandra Molina letters: Nate Piekos editor: Scott Allie grade: C+ A lot goes down in this issue, and yet most of it has no grounding in POTA lore. Normally, I like when a series takes the franchise in new directions, except that all these names and events seem like things we're supposed to know if we're fans of Tarzan (which I am not). Thus, instead of feeling exciting and new, it leaves me feeling somewhat left out. Granted, Walker and Seeley are taking all this in new directions, but those new directions are grounded in a mythology of which I have only the most passing knowledge. From an apes perspective, this issue does offer a few key elements. First, I really like the symbolism Zira attributed to having an ape and (adopted) human son: Second, Dr. Milo was such an important but underused character in the third Apes film that it's always fun to see him show up in comics, especially when he's already supposed to be dead: And he confirms what the first issue already caused us to speculate: the apes' travel back through time somehow created a multiverse, and now there are portals surfacing across those multiple realities. There's not much going on in terms of characterization. Caesar's ethics about war feel stilted and forced, even if they come as a result of the death of Zira. He just doesn't feel like a real character, realistically altered by his circumstances here. Milo is just functioning as exposition and an agent for furthering the plot as of now so there's no real characterization for him. As with the plot, the majority of the characterization seems to go to Tarzan characters. Thus, while this isn't a bad issue (might even be a good one), it's disappointing to someone reading this from a Planet of the Apes perspective.
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