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Post by Batflunkie on Dec 8, 2019 19:01:06 GMT -5
Anyone else loving the new 2099 one shots? The Venom 2099 special was probably my favorite so far, but I also really liked the Conan 2099 issue and the Ghost Rider one as well. The Punisher and FF issues however? Well, they can't all be perfect. It makes me want to go back and re-read the originals. I'm not even certain you could try to condense all the ludicrous insanity of Punisher 2099 into a single one shot, but that's just my take.
Never really had much interest in 2099, even though the concept was solid. Love anything to do with Cyberpunk as a genre
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 8, 2019 19:24:22 GMT -5
Anyone else loving the new 2099 one shots? The Venom 2099 special was probably my favorite so far, but I also really liked the Conan 2099 issue and the Ghost Rider one as well. The Punisher and FF issues however? Well, they can't all be perfect. It makes me want to go back and re-read the originals. I'm not even certain you could try to condense all the ludicrous insanity of Punisher 2099 into a single one shot, but that's just my take.
Never really had much interest in 2099, even though the concept was solid. Love anything to do with Cyberpunk as a genre
It was a totally new Punisher 2099, and while the society they built up around him was interesting his motivation wasn't as clear cut as I'd like. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Dec 8, 2019 19:31:54 GMT -5
It was a totally new Punisher 2099, and while the society they built up around him was interesting his motivation wasn't as clear cut as I'd like. I figured as much, but I thought it would have had at least a similar tone to the original |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 8, 2019 19:40:12 GMT -5
It was a totally new Punisher 2099, and while the society they built up around him was interesting his motivation wasn't as clear cut as I'd like. I figured as much, but I thought it would have had at least a similar tone to the original I don't think I read Punisher 2099 back in the day so I can't say how similar or different it is. The new one revolves around a Judge Dredd like police force that operates in a society based on Rep points...and one cop sees how easily its manipulated and goes out to punish those who uphold that order...for reasons. The sci-fi concept of a society based on social media likes is cool but why he becomes the Punisher was weird. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Dec 8, 2019 20:24:51 GMT -5
I figured as much, but I thought it would have had at least a similar tone to the original I don't think I read Punisher 2099 back in the day so I can't say how similar or different it is. The new one revolves around a Judge Dredd like police force that operates in a society based on Rep points...and one cop sees how easily its manipulated and goes out to punish those who uphold that order...for reasons. The sci-fi concept of a society based on social media likes is cool but why he becomes the Punisher was weird. The original was basically the same, but more over the top. A lot of people, some on here even, have compared it to a watered down version of Marshall Law as Pat Mills was the writer on both |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 10, 2019 22:24:00 GMT -5
It's sad how they just use 2099 as a tag line for random future stories now. Read The 1st trade of Slott's Fantastic Four today... pretty good stuff, if a bit steeped in nostalgia. I do like how he managed to grow up Franklin and Valeria... that should be fun. Not sure it was good enough to pay for, but I'll definitely read more if it turns up on Hoopla  |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 11, 2019 6:03:28 GMT -5
Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles: The Authorized AdaptationStory by Ray Bradbury, art by Dennis Calero, and contributing artists James Smith, Josh Adams and Joe St. Pierre (2011)  Another one I checked out of the library recently, because the cover caught my eye, and I'm not sure if I've ever read any comic adaptations of Bradbury's Martian stories (I can't recall if I ever read any of the EC adaptations of them). And I have to say, I was pretty disappointed with this book. First - and this is admittedly a minor point - only about half of the stories usually included in most editions of the book are included here. Mainly, though, I just did not like the art at all.  It's obvious that Calero chose to use sparse backgrounds to emphasize the bleakness of the Martian landscape, but even the figure work wasn't that great - with the possible exception of "The Off Season" which according to the credits was done by contributing artist Joe St. Pierre. Mostly it just looked like something done on MS Paintbrush in the 1990s. It's a real disservice to Bradbury's stories, as it distracts from his prose rather than bringing it to life, which I think a good comic adaptation should do. Not recommended.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 13:55:22 GMT -5
While I have very little interest in the 2099 brand (I bought the Conan one), I do like the idea that while Marvel celebrates it's 80th Anniversary, the 2099 books are set 80 years in the future.
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Post by Batflunkie on Dec 11, 2019 20:00:12 GMT -5
It's sad how they just use 2099 as a tag line for random future stories now. Read The 1st trade of Slott's Fantastic Four today... pretty good stuff, if a bit steeped in nostalgia. I do like how he managed to grow up Franklin and Valeria... that should be fun. Not sure it was good enough to pay for, but I'll definitely read more if it turns up on Hoopla It'd be nice if they just brought back the line wholesale. Cyberpunk as a genre is finally catching up to us, so it'd be interesting to see how they'd handle it and evolve it
But who knows? The one shots might end up leading to something
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 12, 2019 7:33:46 GMT -5
It's sad how they just use 2099 as a tag line for random future stories now. Read The 1st trade of Slott's Fantastic Four today... pretty good stuff, if a bit steeped in nostalgia. I do like how he managed to grow up Franklin and Valeria... that should be fun. Not sure it was good enough to pay for, but I'll definitely read more if it turns up on Hoopla I don't read a whole lot of Marvel these days but my understanding is that they aren't just random future stories but an actual reflection of what the Marvl universe is supposed to be in 80 years, and not an alternate one either but a world that changes as current events unfold. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 12, 2019 22:50:41 GMT -5
My point is they don't have anything to do with the 2099 line... that world is gone. They keep sorta remaking it, but not really, and just using the name for marketing.. I hate that.... it could have just as easily been 100 years in the future, you know?
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Post by Batflunkie on Dec 13, 2019 12:49:00 GMT -5
My point is they don't have anything to do with the 2099 line... that world is gone. They keep sorta remaking it, but not really, and just using the name for marketing.. I hate that.... it could have just as easily been 100 years in the future, you know? They might have just done the one-shots solely to retain the copyright. I think Disney did that with all their live-action remakes of previously animated features |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 16, 2019 12:38:34 GMT -5
My point is they don't have anything to do with the 2099 line... that world is gone. They keep sorta remaking it, but not really, and just using the name for marketing.. I hate that.... it could have just as easily been 100 years in the future, you know? The 2099 line itself was just marketing though so it doesn't seem unfair and atleast as a concept remaking it makes sense as it's not an immutable alternate future but supposedly the honest to goodness future and as such is constantly being changed by events in the present. On another note I read the latest Frank Miller DKR story...if you can really call a book with out a real sense of plot a story that it. It as just a giant helping of word soup with out any real sense of coherency. About the only things I enjoyed were the art and the idea that Darkseid can't be killed because he is the embodiment of evil, so you can destroy his body or thwart him but as he is a constant concept he'll never truly be defeated. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 26, 2019 9:19:00 GMT -5
After reading and enjoying the 1st trade of Slott's FF on Hoopla, I ended up getting an Ebay lot that got the 1st 15 issues. The art is extemely inconsistent to the point of distraction (different artists every couple issues, and some issues had multiple ones), but the characterizations are decent. I like Ben and Alicia getting married, and it actually happening, that was nice.
I'm not sure yet if I like them aging Franklin and Val.. on the one hand, it's nice to see development, but Franklin as an emo-y teen is kinda annoying. Val is pretty awesome though.
The Doom arc was good, and while they paid lip service to connecting it to recent events, I'm not sure it makes sense from a character point of view... Doom was mostly his 60s self here, but that's the case of the whole run... Slott is definitely looking to please long time fans.
The current arc I think is the weakest, it seems silly that they've never actually went to the planet they meant to go to on their first mission. The 1st two parts definitely didn't encourage me to get the rest.
I'll definitely give Slott some credit for actually creating though, we got the Fantastix in issue 4 (though maybe they'll never been seen again), and has a very Legion-like team on the new planet.
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Post by earl on Dec 28, 2019 1:37:14 GMT -5
Read the conclusion to East of West series with issue #45. It was one I had on pull list since #1. Overall, it was a pretty good read, perhaps not a favorite but I could see revisiting it again. Being I read the series across a few years, I'm sure there is quite a few subtle things I might have missed. During the series, I went back and re-read sections over again, especially during a few of the pauses in publication.
The artwork I thought was really nice, kind of reminded me of early Matt Wagner and Grendel in a way, perhaps the similar influence of anime/manga stylization. Colors top notch. |
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