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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 16, 2015 14:49:08 GMT -5
Anybody can start a blog with no actual knowledge about the subject required. That's my main gripe about "social media" and the importance it is given by the population at large (and even by more traditional news sources). They don't have near the work ethic our own Dan B does. He'd never quote a blog as source material even if it were to take Frank Miller down a peg. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 16, 2015 15:02:44 GMT -5
That's my main gripe about "social media" and the importance it is given by the population at large (and even by more traditional news sources). They don't have near the work ethic our own Dan B does. He'd never quote a blog as source material even if it were to take Frank Miller down a peg. Or even if it claimed irrefutable proof of the existence of Brother Power the Geek #3. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jul 16, 2015 15:48:11 GMT -5
The 1954 Spider Man costume seems also to pre-date the heyday of movies that featured giant insects/arachnids and irradiated/mutated humans that were ubiquitous in the mid-to-late 50s. Them! (June, 1954) would have been current at the time the costume was produced, although it's a bit of a stretch to go from giant, mutated ants to a (presumably) half-man/half-spider. I wonder what Cooper's inspiration and thinking was with that design. Perhaps it was just as simple as playing upon young boys' fascination with spiders.
Whatever the case, the Spider Man of the 1950s could be a great addition to the Agents of Atlas!  |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 16, 2015 15:51:00 GMT -5
They don't have near the work ethic our own Dan B does. He'd never quote a blog as source material even if it were to take Frank Miller down a peg. Or even if it claimed irrefutable proof of the existence of Brother Power the Geek #3. Who needs a blog as a source when there's the third volume of the Steranko History of the Comics? (p. 33, middle column, if anyone cares to check) |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 17, 2015 2:47:54 GMT -5
I've learned enough about internet news to never take articles like this on face value. The salient point is that there was a Spider-Man costume that predated the superhero of the same name. Of course, there were Spider themed vigilantes that predated this costume. It doesn't take much of an imagination for someone to connect spider and man as a creepy Halloween concept and then think, "A human spider would have weird eyes. And we have to have a web theme." It's quite possible that the costume is simply a coincidence and has no connection to Kirby or Ditko.
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Post by MDG on Jul 17, 2015 11:58:26 GMT -5
The 1954 Spider Man costume seems also to pre-date the heyday of movies that featured giant insects/arachnids and irradiated/mutated humans that were ubiquitous in the mid-to-late 50s. Them! (June, 1954) would have been current at the time the costume was produced, although it's a bit of a stretch to go from giant, mutated ants to a (presumably) half-man/half-spider. I wonder what Cooper's inspiration and thinking was with that design. Perhaps it was just as simple as playing upon young boys' fascination with spiders. Spiders were a pretty staple theme of monster/horror (for example in LB Cole's work), so a natural connection to Halloween. And they may have been casting around for subjects for costumes. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 17, 2015 14:02:00 GMT -5
Even if Ditko drew inspiration from that costume, Ben Cooper did not create Spider-Man. Ditko, Lee and probably Kirby were the true creators. They took a terrible looking costume and turned it into arguably a top 3 superhero in the world. Interesting article but I don't think there would be much of a case if some Ben Cooper heirs did decide to try and go after Marvel.
I mean, how many characters look similar to others in the cartoon/comic/movie/costume industry? Tons! Its the creativity of the artists and writers that really make the character.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 17, 2015 14:50:02 GMT -5
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Post by shaxper on Jul 17, 2015 19:51:07 GMT -5
Also, I think Steve might have been living in Johnstown PA when that Halloween costume was being sold in New York. Yes, but the Illuminati faxed him a picture of the costume so that he could steal it. Incidentally, fax machines were first invented by the Knights Templar and traded to the Illuminati for the blood of six hundred infants in 1951. |
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 17, 2015 20:47:59 GMT -5
Also, I think Steve might have been living in Johnstown PA when that Halloween costume was being sold in New York. Yes, but the Illuminati faxed him a picture of the costume so that he could steal it. Incidentally, fax machines were first invented by the Knights Templar and traded to the Illuminati for the blood of six hundred infants in 1951. I work with fax software and modems as part of my job, and I can certainly believe that they are Satanic in origin. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 18, 2015 10:22:17 GMT -5
The 1954 Spider Man costume seems also to pre-date the heyday of movies that featured giant insects/arachnids and irradiated/mutated humans that were ubiquitous in the mid-to-late 50s. Them! (June, 1954) would have been current at the time the costume was produced, although it's a bit of a stretch to go from giant, mutated ants to a (presumably) half-man/half-spider. I wonder what Cooper's inspiration and thinking was with that design. Perhaps it was just as simple as playing upon young boys' fascination with spiders.
Whatever the case, the Spider Man of the 1950s could be a great addition to the Agents of Atlas! And leave us not forget...  Though it didn't come out till late '55, according to IMDb. |
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Post by doc1eye on Apr 24, 2016 18:55:16 GMT -5
Still, there is that strange blue and yellow webbing added to the costume.  |
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 25, 2016 11:17:20 GMT -5
Anybody can start a blog with no actual knowledge about the subject required. That's my main gripe about "social media" and the importance it is given by the population at large (and even by more traditional news sources). All social media promotes is the continued downfall of western civilization by way of encouraging vapid egotism thinly masked as "pseudo-intellectual insight" |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 25, 2016 12:13:29 GMT -5
That's my main gripe about "social media" and the importance it is given by the population at large (and even by more traditional news sources). All social media promotes is the continued downfall of western civilization by way of encouraging vapid egotism thinly masked as "pseudo-intellectual insight" I'm sure it also promotes children getting on your lawn. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 25, 2016 13:38:25 GMT -5
All social media promotes is the continued downfall of western civilization by way of encouraging vapid egotism thinly masked as "pseudo-intellectual insight" I'm sure it also promotes children getting on your lawn. Those scoundrels!!! Read all about my trampled lawn-inspired outrage on Facebook! (Also, pictures of my lunch). |
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