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Post by MDG on May 22, 2017 19:31:17 GMT -5
Sorry, who are you asking about again? Steve Englehart? Ooops. sorry about that Crimebuster. Yes, I was referring to Steve Englehart. His JLA, Detective, and (truncated) Mr. Miracle runs are as good as it gets.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 22, 2017 20:30:37 GMT -5
Hi guys. Other than his mid to late 1980's Silver Surfer volume 2 run, what works of his, DC, Marvel, etc., would you recommend? Thanks. Lots of good runs to choose from... His Dr. Strange was truly classic, and I really, really enjoyed his Avengers. Englehart is very good at making retroactive continuity work. I never came across an Englehart retcon I disliked, and I usually hate retcons.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 22, 2017 21:37:34 GMT -5
Engelhart and Rogers' Batman, from Detective Comics, is some of the best work on the character. It also influenced the original script for the Tim Burton Batman, which got tweaked later on. Silver St Cloud became Vicky Vale, Boss Thorne was turned into Boss Grissom. The Joker was pretty much as in "The Laughing Fish."
His captain America is great, too, with the 50s Cap, The Secret Empire, and Cap becoming Nomad.
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Post by sabongero on May 25, 2017 11:41:11 GMT -5
Ooops. sorry about that Crimebuster. Yes, I was referring to Steve Englehart. His JLA, Detective, and (truncated) Mr. Miracle runs are as good as it gets. Thanks MDG. Which of the two would you recommend I start with first? JLA or 'Tec?
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Post by sabongero on May 25, 2017 11:43:32 GMT -5
Engelhart and Rogers' Batman, from Detective Comics, is some of the best work on the character. It also influenced the original script for the Tim Burton Batman, which got tweaked later on. Silver St Cloud became Vicky Vale, Boss Thorne was turned into Boss Grissom. The Joker was pretty much as in "The Laughing Fish." His captain America is great, too, with the 50s Cap, The Secret Empire, and Cap becoming Nomad. Thanks Codystarbuck. I am not sure if this would fall under what you said above. I remember reading from the previous decade around 2006 or something, a limited series titled, "Batman: Dark Detective." And it's from that same creative team.
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Post by sabongero on May 25, 2017 11:45:17 GMT -5
Hi guys. Other than his mid to late 1980's Silver Surfer volume 2 run, what works of his, DC, Marvel, etc., would you recommend? Thanks. Lots of good runs to choose from... His Dr. Strange was truly classic, and I really, really enjoyed his Avengers. Englehart is very good at making retroactive continuity work. I never came across an Englehart retcon I disliked, and I usually hate retcons. Thanks Roquefort. The Avengers I am most familiar with is the one by Roger Stern, especially when the Masters of Eveil beat the crap out of Jarvis in that storyline where they pummelled Hercules into a coma. I am not familiar with Dr. Strange. What made his run in Dr. Strange a classic if you don't mind me asking? Thanks.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 25, 2017 11:50:13 GMT -5
Engelhart and Rogers' Batman, from Detective Comics, is some of the best work on the character. It also influenced the original script for the Tim Burton Batman, which got tweaked later on. Silver St Cloud became Vicky Vale, Boss Thorne was turned into Boss Grissom. The Joker was pretty much as in "The Laughing Fish." His captain America is great, too, with the 50s Cap, The Secret Empire, and Cap becoming Nomad. Thanks Codystarbuck. I am not sure if this would fall under what you said above. I remember reading from the previous decade around 2006 or something, a limited series titled, "Batman: Dark Detective." And it's from that same creative team. That's a mini-series sequel to the original run in Detective Comics #469-476, #478, and #479. The Detective run has been collected a few times, though it appears that the trades are largely out of print. Batman: Strange Apparitions collected them. It might be easier and cheaper to pick up the Shadow of the Batman baxter series that reprinted them in 1985.
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Post by MDG on May 25, 2017 11:59:23 GMT -5
His JLA, Detective, and (truncated) Mr. Miracle runs are as good as it gets. Thanks MDG. Which of the two would you recommend I start with first? JLA or 'Tec? The Detective stories are easy to find, self-contained, and don't require previous knowledge of DC characters beyond what you could get from the Batman TV show.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 25, 2017 12:04:26 GMT -5
Lots of good runs to choose from... His Dr. Strange was truly classic, and I really, really enjoyed his Avengers. Englehart is very good at making retroactive continuity work. I never came across an Englehart retcon I disliked, and I usually hate retcons. Thanks Roquefort. The Avengers I am most familiar with is the one by Roger Stern, especially when the Masters of Eveil beat the crap out of Jarvis in that storyline where they pummelled Hercules into a coma. I am not familiar with Dr. Strange. What made his run in Dr. Strange a classic if you don't mind me asking? Thanks. Englehart's run featured very important moments in the good doctor's life, including the conclusion of the Lovecraftian storyline that reintroduced him to the Marvel Universe (in Marvel Premiere and then in own mag), that saw him finally take over as protector of our world after the death of the Ancient One, and that saw him meeting none other than God. Strange also witnessed the destruction of the Earth and got killed by Dracula. Great stuff! It seems to me that this era was so defining that you can hear it echo again and again in all the years that followed. The artwork by Frank Brunner and Gene Colan was also spectacular.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 25, 2017 21:45:44 GMT -5
Engelhart and Rogers' Batman, from Detective Comics, is some of the best work on the character. It also influenced the original script for the Tim Burton Batman, which got tweaked later on. Silver St Cloud became Vicky Vale, Boss Thorne was turned into Boss Grissom. The Joker was pretty much as in "The Laughing Fish." His captain America is great, too, with the 50s Cap, The Secret Empire, and Cap becoming Nomad. Thanks Codystarbuck. I am not sure if this would fall under what you said above. I remember reading from the previous decade around 2006 or something, a limited series titled, "Batman: Dark Detective." And it's from that same creative team. That was a Legends of the Dark Knight story, as i recall, reuniting the team. The original stuff was Detective Comics #469-476, though Walt Simonson did the first two issues and Marshall Rogers the rest. Rogers did some more Batman; but, Engelhart was done with it. It was collected in a trade, called Strange Apparitions, since Hugo Strange is part of the central focus. Later, Doug Moench and Paul Gulacy explored some of that in a new take, in Legends of the Dark Knight, with "Prey," (#11-15) and "Terror," (#137-141). The Strange Apparitions stories were also collected in a Baxter-format mini-series, Shadow of the Batman, in 1985 (5 issues). That included other Marshall Rogers work, including stories from Weird War Tales and House of Mystery, as well as one from Mystery In Space.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 6:07:22 GMT -5
His JLA, Detective, and (truncated) Mr. Miracle runs are as good as it gets. Thanks MDG. Which of the two would you recommend I start with first? JLA or 'Tec? Here is the link to my review of Englehart's Detective:
Tec review
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Post by lobsterjohnson on May 29, 2017 16:39:27 GMT -5
Is the original Nick Fury still around in the main Marvel universe?
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 29, 2017 17:41:50 GMT -5
Is the original Nick Fury still around in the main Marvel universe? I didn't actually read the event, but IIRC, he is.. after 'Original Sin', he the 'man on the wall' he hangs out in some secret base on the moon and makes sure the aliens aren't coming. The movie Nick Fury (who is Fury's kid in the comic book universe), has essentially taken his place, though he may be dead right now.. they tend to use Coulson or Maria Hill mostly these days.
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Post by lobsterjohnson on May 29, 2017 22:07:39 GMT -5
Is the original Nick Fury still around in the main Marvel universe? I didn't actually read the event, but IIRC, he is.. after 'Original Sin', he the 'man on the wall' he hangs out in some secret base on the moon and makes sure the aliens aren't coming. The movie Nick Fury (who is Fury's kid in the comic book universe), has essentially taken his place, though he may be dead right now.. they tend to use Coulson or Maria Hill mostly these days. Thanks!
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Post by The Cheat on May 30, 2017 14:50:17 GMT -5
Is the original Nick Fury still around in the main Marvel universe? I didn't actually read the event, but IIRC, he is.. after 'Original Sin', he the 'man on the wall' he hangs out in some secret base on the moon and makes sure the aliens aren't coming. The movie Nick Fury (who is Fury's kid in the comic book universe), has essentially taken his place, though he may be dead right now.. they tend to use Coulson or Maria Hill mostly these days. Original Sin was pretty terrible, so I don't remember much, but I'm pretty sure he gave up that role to become the new Watcher.
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