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Post by Nowhere Man on Dec 12, 2015 15:06:08 GMT -5
I've noticed that for years; many great illustrators in comics but very few great storytellers. I wonder if these guys simply neglected to learn that skill, or if it has more to do with the reselling of artwork? Most of the more popular pieces seem to be splash pages, big spreads, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 15:17:57 GMT -5
I've noticed that for years; many great illustrators in comics but very few great storytellers. I wonder if these guys simply neglected to learn that skill, or if it has more to do with the reselling of artwork? Most of the more popular pieces seem to be splash pages, big spreads, etc. I think in these days of full script a lot comes down to the understanding of the writer about visual storytelling. A Marvel style plot first allows the artist to break down the story visually, a full script means the writer is breaking down the story visually deciding panel to panel and page to page flow of the story, and some writers are not great visual storytellers. Some are good collaborators and allow the artist more freedom to adjust the story visually, some want their script followed to the letter even if it doesn't always work visually. I find often the best visual storytellers are the collaborations that have a lot of give and take or when a single cartoonist does all the heavy lifting. There are some writers who are also very good visual storytellers, and there are others who put too much or too little in each panel and page. There are some great illustrators who have no sense of narration in their visuals as well and who can take a good script and produce an inferior story with pretty pictures, so it's not all on the writers, but a full script details the storytelling for each page and panel so sometimes the lack of visual storytelling doesn't fall on the artists shoulders if the writer doesn't give him or her room to do it. -M and there are a lot of pitfalls in the Marvel method so it is not inherently superior or inferior, a lot depends on the nature of the collaboration between artist and writer and the level of trust between them. |
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Post by MDG on Dec 13, 2015 10:34:35 GMT -5
I've noticed that for years; many great illustrators in comics but very few great storytellers. I wonder if these guys simply neglected to learn that skill, or if it has more to do with the reselling of artwork? Most of the more popular pieces seem to be splash pages, big spreads, etc. I think it's a combination of both, plus the fact that editors probably don't work with artists to help them learn storytelling. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 0:57:48 GMT -5
Can you spot which book shouldn't have bundled along with this lot....which might have sold for about...umm...ten bucks or so in total....to someone who spotted it?  |
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 14, 2015 1:53:39 GMT -5
I have all of those but I'm not sure why one would be more valuable than the others.
Cei-U!
I summon the conundrum!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 2:03:29 GMT -5
I have all of those but I'm not sure why one would be more valuable than the others. Cei-U! I summon the conundrum! The He-Man appearance can fetch a higher price most times. -M PS for example current Lonestar auction has a 4.0 copy with 3 days to go already bid up to $31 -M |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 14, 2015 19:48:12 GMT -5
No, no. The Black Canary story kind of sucked. The rest are deathless classics for the ages.  |
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Post by realjla on Dec 14, 2015 21:36:25 GMT -5
No, no. The Black Canary story kind of sucked. The rest are deathless classics for the ages. That story is deathless, too...Larry Lance said so!;-) Actually, the highlight is the "Canary vs. polar bear" showdown! |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 14, 2015 21:41:08 GMT -5
Alright, I grantcha, that part was pretty great.  |
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Post by Pharozonk on Dec 14, 2015 21:42:14 GMT -5
I have all of those but I'm not sure why one would be more valuable than the others. Cei-U! I summon the conundrum! I thought it was going to be issue #26 for the first New Teen Titans appearance, but that wasn't there. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 23:32:49 GMT -5
I thought it was going to be issue #26 for the first New Teen Titans appearance, but that wasn't there. #26 is a nugget...but I've seen a Whitman variant of #22 (Captain Comet) listed for $1,000 on Ebay because it's claimed only 7 copies exist. It's there right now. #47 is listed for $120.00 in NM by the way... |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 15, 2015 17:46:17 GMT -5
Yeah, that's just crazy. Luckily - at least when I was working on my DC Comics Presents Run - a lot of retailers didn't know that was a "hot" issue because why would you guess there were a bunch of crazy He-man collectors? I paid 6 bucks for mine and saw a couple more go by at that price.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 19:30:12 GMT -5
How does anyone interpret this cover?   |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 19:50:16 GMT -5
How does anyone interpret this cover? Lisa Frank Meets The Avengers? |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 19, 2015 19:57:23 GMT -5
How does anyone interpret this cover? Well once you kick back a few tabs of acid it's pretty clear. |
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