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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 8, 2020 0:31:24 GMT -5
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Post by junkmonkey on Jul 8, 2020 5:04:49 GMT -5
Why go through all the trouble to print a pence variant cover when British distributors could easily passed on the trouble of price gunning labels onto comics to the newsagents shops?
It must have meant they were in control of the market somehow. That copies they were selling 'here' went 'here' and not 'there'. The same way DVDs and BluRays are region-coded for no other reason than giving the marketing departments some say as to when and where things get released/distributed.
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Post by berkley on Jul 8, 2020 22:43:54 GMT -5
Terry and the Pirates question:
From a few things I<ve seen online, I gather that the series is considered to have peaked in the late 30s or early 40s and then to have fallen off slightly once the US entered WWII, after which the storylines reflected the war situation in the Far East, which gave it a somewhat different tone compared to its heyday as a sort of free-booting adventure strip. For those of you who have read it, would you agree with that assessment?
I ask because I've started to pick up the collections whenever I see one at a relatively reasonable price. Based on the above, I had been planning to look for only the first 3 or 4 volumes, but the artwork in volume 2, the only one I've found so far, looks so good I'm very tempted to grab the later ones as well, if I see them at a decent price.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 8, 2020 23:19:50 GMT -5
I'd say it was still at its peak during the war. Here's one of the most famous strips of all time, one that made quite an impression when it showed up on people's front steps in the October 17, 1943 Sunday paper.
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Post by sabongero on Jul 9, 2020 1:11:32 GMT -5
Hi guys. Hope the CCF members here who are familiar with John Constantine, and has read some or a lot of his Hellblazer series can help me out here. I have watched the tv series, Legends of Tomorrow. And with the last couple of season enjoyed John Constantine's addition to the cast. I would like to read some but seeing there are 300 issues on the initial series. I would like to have some recommendations on which ones to read. Stories in the series that you particulary liked or appealed to you. Thanks.
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Post by Dizzy D on Jul 9, 2020 4:23:05 GMT -5
Hellblazer; I never got back into the series after it left Vertigo, so can only comment on those first 300 issues but recommendations (also John Constantine was introduced as a character in Alan Moore's Swamp Thing, so might want to check out some of that):
- Hellblazer: Original Sins by Jamie Delano will get you an intro to John as a solo character. There are some references to the events in Swamp Thing and this are mostly short standalone stories.
- Hellblazer: Family Man by Jamie Delano.
- Hellblazer; Dangerous Habits by Garth Ennis is probably the most popular Hellblazer story.
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Post by Ozymandias on Jul 9, 2020 6:51:30 GMT -5
Yeah, his Swamp Thing appearances and the first TPB would be recommendations. And if you can find issues 25-27 at a reasonable price, check them out.
Fear and Loathing is also worth looking, but not all the contents of the TPB are.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 9, 2020 8:06:52 GMT -5
Terry and the Pirates question: From a few things I<ve seen online, I gather that the series is considered to have peaked in the late 30s or early 40s and then to have fallen off slightly once the US entered WWII, after which the storylines reflected the war situation in the Far East, which gave it a somewhat different tone compared to its heyday as a sort of free-booting adventure strip. For those of you who have read it, would you agree with that assessment? I ask because I've started to pick up the collections whenever I see one at a relatively reasonable price. Based on the above, I had been planning to look for only the first 3 or 4 volumes, but the artwork in volume 2, the only one I've found so far, looks so good I'm very tempted to grab the later ones as well, if I see them at a decent price. I agree with Prince Hall. As long as Caniff is on the strip it’s well worth reading and the art is always top notch. The focus definitely changes but it is still a good read.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 12:22:59 GMT -5
Hi guys. Hope the CCF members here who are familiar with John Constantine, and has read some or a lot of his Hellblazer series can help me out here. I have watched the tv series, Legends of Tomorrow. And with the last couple of season enjoyed John Constantine's addition to the cast. I would like to read some but seeing there are 300 issues on the initial series. I would like to have some recommendations on which ones to read. Stories in the series that you particulary liked or appealed to you. Thanks. I think the New 52 Constantine series from 2013-2015 was really good and probably closer to his onscreen portrayal in the Arrowverse. Also the New 52 Justice League Dark sets the table for the solo series and the #0 is a Constantine issue.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 9, 2020 19:48:38 GMT -5
Terry is good through Caniff, When the series reflects the war, it became a different animal; but, it was still one of the best strips out there and captured the wartime experience well. The piece Prince Hal posted was so well regarded it was read into the Congressional Record. It beautifully captures how every aspect of the military and civilian society was a component in the effort to bring the war to an end and restore freedom. Everyone, from the taxpayer who funded things, to the factories that built the equipment, the people who transported it, the people who trained and supported the fighters, right to the pilots, sailors and soldiers who used the equipment in the fight. It also captures the essence of leadership and the sacrifices of those who came before and comrades lost. That strip was a favorite of a lot of GIs.
Where Terry falls is when Caniff fell into dispute with the syndicate and quit, to go create Steve Canyon, for which he owned a piece. Then, George Wunder took over and pretty much everyone felt it went downhill and never recovered. Steve Canyon was good stuff, if a bit jingoistic; but, it turned more into soap opera than adventure, as it went on. That one I would say you don't need to read much beyond the 60s, or even that deeply into the 60s. The early years were the glory days.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 9, 2020 20:43:48 GMT -5
I have a volume Fantagraphics put together of Milt Caniff's Complete Dickie Dare from just before he started Terry & The Pirates and I think it's great! I'd recommend it as essential if you like the classic pre-War Terry, but I also like that format (it goes nicely with the '70s Nostalgia Press volumes I have).
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Post by berkley on Jul 9, 2020 22:13:01 GMT -5
Good to have confirmation that the war years of Terry and the Pirates is still worth checking out. Hadn't heard much about Dickie Dare before, I'll have to look into that one too. Male Call is another one I'd like to look at eventually.
I've been reading Steve Canyon the last year or so, which is what made me think seriously about reading Terry and the Pirates. I'm in the middle of volume 3 of the SC collections, and it is hugely entertaining, with fantastuc artwork. Yes the jingoism Codystarbuck mentioned can be off-putting, as so many of the attitudes of earlier eras can be, but it doesn't usually interfere with my enjoyment of the story. I'm impressed with the writing: inventive storylines and some great dialogue bits, much in the same vein as the the Hollywood films of that time. Thanks to everyone for all the info, very helpful.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 9, 2020 22:14:17 GMT -5
Hadn't heard much about Dickie Dare before, I'll have to look into that one too. I've been reading Steve Canyon the last year or so, which is what made me think seriously about reading Terry and the Pirates. Male Call is another one I'd like to look at eventually. Thanks to everyone for the info, very helpful. Male Call is more of a gag-a-day strip, but a fun one. Since it was in tars & Stripes, it could go further than syndicated strips.
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Post by berkley on Jul 9, 2020 22:33:39 GMT -5
Hadn't heard much about Dickie Dare before, I'll have to look into that one too. I've been reading Steve Canyon the last year or so, which is what made me think seriously about reading Terry and the Pirates. Male Call is another one I'd like to look at eventually. Thanks to everyone for the info, very helpful. Male Call is more of a gag-a-day strip, but a fun one. Since it was in tars & Stripes, it could go further than syndicated strips. Yeah, that one is definitely farher down the list. For now, I'll most likely carry on with Steve Canyon, since I'm already well into it - and BTW thanks again for the heads-up about how that strip evolved over time: I had been wondering how far I'd want to go on with it. Right now it's a very satisfying read, but it is a bit hard to see how it would go down in the 60s.
Terry and the Pirates I most likely won't start for quite a while - once I reach my limit with the Canyon series I'll probably be looking at stuff from the late 50s or early 60s, not sure exactly what, yet (suggestions always welcome!).
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Post by MDG on Jul 10, 2020 8:28:11 GMT -5
Hadn't heard much about Dickie Dare before, I'll have to look into that one too. I've been reading Steve Canyon the last year or so, which is what made me think seriously about reading Terry and the Pirates. Male Call is another one I'd like to look at eventually. Thanks to everyone for the info, very helpful. Male Call is more of a gag-a-day strip, but a fun one. Since it was in tars & Stripes, it could go further than syndicated strips. 90% of Male Call was to provide some eye candy for the boys:
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