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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2020 18:57:09 GMT -5
Anybody know why issues 19-24 aren't collected in the recent hardcover of the 70s Shazam series? I'm considering grabbing the two hardcovers since O'Neil wrote about a dozen issues, but I'm not real familiar with the character outside of Johns' JSA and the recent film (enjoy both) Is it a good starting place/actually good? I would spend your money on the upcoming collection of Ordway's excellent Power of Shazam series.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 30, 2020 20:04:09 GMT -5
Anybody know why issues 19-24 aren't collected in the recent hardcover of the 70s Shazam series? I'm considering grabbing the two hardcovers since O'Neil wrote about a dozen issues, but I'm not real familiar with the character outside of Johns' JSA and the recent film (enjoy both) Is it a good starting place/actually good? Those were Fawcett reprint issues (they reprinted original Fawcett stories). They also did not include them with the Showcase volume. Originally, DC only licensed the Marvel Family from Fawcett. Those reprint stories carried copyright notices that the stories belong to Fawcett. My guess would be they flat out don't own them; or, don't own them outright. They did publish 4 volumes of the Shazam Archives and one of the Shazam Family Archives, which all carried reprints of Fawcett stories. So, my guess would be their ownership, beyond the trademarks for the characters is complicated. I'm willing to bet the easiest and cheapest solution was to skip those issues. DC was also supposed to reprint the Monster Society of Evil, then pulled it from the schedule. American Nostalgia Library had the right to print a limited edition hardcover collection, which came in a slipcase. I had it and kick myself for letting it go. I have digital copies; but, that thing was beautiful and I had a relatively low number. If memory serves, it cost me $75, which was the most I ever paid for a comic related book.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Aug 5, 2020 8:31:37 GMT -5
I was reading some Eternals issues and saw mention in the letters pages about how fans were debating whether or not the Eternals should exist within the Marvel Universe.
Prompting the question, when was the first time this term was used?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 10:59:38 GMT -5
I realize this isn't a great description, but hopefully someone can help. I'm trying to remember the name of a historical comic (possibly set in Rome or Greece) that was done entirely by one person. I'm not sure if it's still coming out, but I know it was intended to take a really long time to actually complete because the creator was being really meticulous.
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 7, 2020 11:13:59 GMT -5
I realize this isn't a great description, but hopefully someone can help. I'm trying to remember the name of a historical comic (possibly set in Rome or Greece) that was done entirely by one person. I'm not sure if it's still coming out, but I know it was intended to take a really long time to actually complete because the creator was being really meticulous. Quick guess: Age of Bronze by Eric Shanower? www.age-of-bronze.com/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 11:16:53 GMT -5
That is it! Thank you so much, sir.
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Post by sabongero on Aug 7, 2020 14:56:05 GMT -5
I realize this isn't a great description, but hopefully someone can help. I'm trying to remember the name of a historical comic (possibly set in Rome or Greece) that was done entirely by one person. I'm not sure if it's still coming out, but I know it was intended to take a really long time to actually complete because the creator was being really meticulous. Quick guess: Age of Bronze by Eric Shanower? www.age-of-bronze.com/Oh man I am such a big lover oh ancient history and ancient historical settings. Besides Age of Bronze, does anyone else know of any comic book series (limited series, ongoing series, old completed series) that is on ancient historical based settings? I'd really appreciate it, Thanks.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 7, 2020 15:05:38 GMT -5
Oh man I am such a big lover oh ancient history and ancient historical settings. Besides Age of Bronze, does anyone else know of any comic book series (limited series, ongoing series, old completed series) that is on ancient historical based settings? I'd really appreciate it, Thanks. If you're looking for historical accuracy (anthropomorphics aside), then Usagi Yojimbo. Stan Sakai does meticulous research, sometimes devotes entire issues to things like feudal Japanese sword construction, pottery making, and taiko drum construction, and he once redrew an entire page because he had Usagi lay his swords in the wrong place during the Japanese Tea Ceremony.
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Post by Dizzy D on Aug 7, 2020 15:27:25 GMT -5
There are many historic comics in Europe, but I appreciated Murena (about Rome during the rise and reign of Nero) a lot because it had notes in the back that go "Well, we know that Nero didn't talk to this specific senator X, but another one. But it would mean we would need to introduce another character just for this conversation, so to make the story easier to follow we chose to use the one we have used before. According to historical sources, he talked to Y."
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Post by brutalis on Aug 7, 2020 16:10:02 GMT -5
Hugo Pratt's Corto Maltese stories utilize moments of historical significance as background or plotting.
Don Rosa Uncle Scrooge stories as well had many of the adventures being history based.
Brian Woods Revolutionary War setting for his series Rebels has lots of historical facts and characters.
William Messner-Loebs comic Journey, the Adventures of Wolverine McAllister has some wonderful frontiersman history worked into its stories.
Addendum: Brian Woods Northlanders about the Vikings mixes history with realistic stories for a very striking series.
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Post by berkley on Aug 7, 2020 17:45:03 GMT -5
I was reading some Eternals issues and saw mention in the letters pages about how fans were debating whether or not the Eternals should exist within the Marvel Universe. Prompting the question, when was the first time this term was used? I have no idea when it first came into use but that's probably my own earliest exposure to it - or if not that specific issue or series, some other letters page from one of the many Marvel comics I was reading around that time - roughly the mid-70s.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 7, 2020 21:45:33 GMT -5
Hugo Pratt's Corto Maltese stories utilize moments of historical significance as background or plotting. Don Rosa Uncle Scrooge stories as well had many of the adventures being history based. Brian Woods Revolutionary War setting for his series Rebels has lots of historical facts and characters. William Messner-Loebs comic Journey, the Adventures of Wolverine McAllister has some wonderful frontiersman history worked into its stories. Addendum: Brian Woods Northlanders about the Vikings mixes history with realistic stories for a very striking series. Add Tim Truman's Wilderness and his adaptation of Alan Eckert's Tecumseh. For ancient, in Europe and the UK there was Heros the Spartan, Asterix (for satire), The Adventures of Alix, The Towers of Bois-Maury (medieval). Sam Glanzman did nice work on his Hercules series, at Charlton, which was mythological; but, he did his research on the Bronze Age. He and Will Franz did a series, The Eagle, about a Roman Centurion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 22:37:13 GMT -5
Oh man I am such a big lover oh ancient history and ancient historical settings. Besides Age of Bronze, does anyone else know of any comic book series (limited series, ongoing series, old completed series) that is on ancient historical based settings? I'd really appreciate it, Thanks. How ancient? Is early medieval ancient enough? If so, here's a couple: Roland Days of Wrath-a Xeric award winner that featured the first professional art by Gabriel Ba and Fabio Moon based on the epic Song of Roland, a four issue series from 1999 also from '99 Gareth Hinds adaptation of Beowulf that is well referenced and researched in Anglo-Saxon culture and history... another well researched and referenced historical fiction piece form the later medieval period is Templar form FirstSecond publishing, telling a tale set amid the fall of the Templars. For Greek culture, depending on how you feel about Frank Miller, there is 300 and Xerxes... There is also the Jason and the Argonauts series form Tome Press (an imprint of Caliber) with art by a young Patrick Zircher.... There's Darren Aronofsky's (of Black Swan and The Wrestler fame) GN of Noah (which was the basis for the film version) from 2014 published by Image... I picked this up on the cheap at a show a year or so ago but haven't read it yet (unlike the others I listed which I have read), so I can't recommend it but it does fit the era criteria you asked about In a similar vein there is Jason Aaron's The Goddamned: Before the Flood a five issue mini published by Image-I have to say I was disappointed by this one but again, it may appeal to someone else.... if you haven't read them, there is also Larry Golnick's Cartoon History of the Universe, which are great, the first two volumes cover from the Big Bang to the Fall of Rome... I am sure there are more I am forgetting, I used to have a fairly extensive list of such book I compiled circa 2002 when I was still teaching but I do not think I have access to those files anymore and haven't kept up the list over the last decade. -M
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 0:29:57 GMT -5
A few more... Eisner's adaptation of the medieval African epic The Sundiata... in the realm of speculative fiction set in a historical backdrop, there is the English translation of The Secret History published by Archaia, the first few volumes are set inthe ancinet world (it runs through the modern world) I mentioned Gareth Hind's Beowulf, he has also done an adaptation of The Odyssey (which I haven't read) There was a creator out of Columbus I met doing the small press con circuit circa 2013 named Travis Horseman that was doing a book set in Ancient Rome called Amiculus: The Secret History that looked quite good and those I know who read it quite liked it, but I haven't had a chance to yet... There were some historical based features in the short-lived Marvel/Epic series Amazing High Adventure.... Another I haven't gotten to that I just remembered is Three by Kieron Gillen set in ancient Sparta... a five issue mini published by Image in 2013. I am sure there are more as well, I am just not thinking of them at the moment. Offhand, a few more random thoughtsI know Grant Morrison did one based on ancient Vedic myths in the Mahabarata called 18 Days but I know nothing about it other than that. The short-lived Virgin Comics line also had a few based on Vedic myths and one iirc based on the Ramayana, but I haven't looked into these much. There's a Marco Polo GN I picked up showcasing his travel in the far east but I haven't gooten to it in my to read pile to comment how good it is. The short-lived EC series Valor had medieval and ancient warriors and the Gemstone reprints of it are very affordable. ok that's it for now I think. -M
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Post by junkmonkey on Aug 8, 2020 4:49:46 GMT -5
Oh man I am such a big lover oh ancient history and ancient historical settings. Besides Age of Bronze, does anyone else know of any comic book series (limited series, ongoing series, old completed series) that is on ancient historical based settings? I'd really appreciate it, Thanks. The Thorgal series, with its various spin-offs, is set in a globe wandering Iron-age milieu (with extended side-trips into fantasy and SF).
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