Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Aug 13, 2020 8:00:51 GMT -5
Maybe I'm just a sourpuss, but I always hated that there was a Fantastic Four comic in the Marvel Universe. I mean, yeah, I get that it's kinda cute to have Stan Lee and Jack Kirby appearing in the early Fantastic Four run and interacting with Doctor Doom et al, but at the same time I just really wish they hadn't done that.
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 13, 2020 13:00:03 GMT -5
Those are cool. And new to me. Why the hell wasn’t I notified about these back in the day? Thank you. There were six individual one-shot issues released in 2000, Captain America was drawn by Steve Rogers and written by Rick Jones, The X-Men showed mutants as wanting to kill all humans and that the ones in custody were under death sentences delayed if they did as they were ordered to combat other mutants, Thor was high-tech and not a God and Asgard was just the name of the headquarters of the group behind him. Iron Man (who doesn't get a title of his own) is shown as Tony Stark's bodyguard and it states there have been many different men inside the armor, some were killed and others went bad (one or two having alcohol problems and being fired). There was also a thinner non-comic companion history of the fictional comic publisher within the Marvel comics we know... some of the art is labelled as police sketches from witness descriptions. I did kind of like the idea of Spidey Super Stories being what his comics would be inside the fictional 'universe', I think Roger Stern was said to have come up with it, except Spider-Man is thought by so many in the comics as a dangerous character and not a fun kids' character or hero... so they got that bit more 'right' in 2000 I guess.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Aug 13, 2020 14:53:44 GMT -5
That's not Hellcat (a name the CTW would never have signed off on). It's the original Cat, the one later became Tigra (note the black hair instead of Patsy's red). I don't think the story establishes who is behind the mask, but would Greer Nelson exclaim "Cheese and crackers"?. She seems to have reddish highlights in some panels, and has fully red hair on the front and back covers.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 13, 2020 15:13:03 GMT -5
That's not Hellcat (a name the CTW would never have signed off on). It's the original Cat, the one later became Tigra (note the black hair instead of Patsy's red). I don't think the story establishes who is behind the mask, but would Greer Nelson exclaim "Cheese and crackers"?. She seems to have reddish highlights in some panels, and has fully red hair on the front and back covers. The story does call her The Cat. and this is the origin given on the interior cover... Also, Patsy Walker didn't debut as Hellcat until the following year.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Aug 13, 2020 16:25:13 GMT -5
Patsy had replaced Greer by the time SSS #39 was publsished, and although she's still called the Cat, it's clearly Patsy on the covers.
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 13, 2020 17:49:14 GMT -5
So #12 was Greer/The Cat and #39 Patsy/Cat?
But Easy Reader is still Morgan Freeman right?
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Post by junkmonkey on Aug 13, 2020 18:02:19 GMT -5
I am not a number! I am a Morgan Freeman!
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Post by Outrajs on Aug 13, 2020 19:06:47 GMT -5
Can y'all help me? I want to read Wonder Woman's first appearances and some of her original stories. I want to see who she was created to be and not who she has since become. Is there an anthology out there I can get my hands on?
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 13, 2020 19:43:20 GMT -5
Well, this book, from the 70s, had part of the origin story and some early adventures..... There are affordable copies out there. There are several Wonder Woman Archives volumes, some more affordable than others. This one, Wonder Woman: The War Years, looks like a good one.Roy picked some key stories (and ones related to the film, as it features Dr Poison, in one story).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 23:05:42 GMT -5
Can y'all help me? I want to read Wonder Woman's first appearances and some of her original stories. I want to see who she was created to be and not who she has since become. Is there an anthology out there I can get my hands on? Volume 1 - 1st printing. Collects All Star Comics (1940-1978) #8, Sensation Comics (1942-1952) #1-14, Wonder Woman (1942-1986 1st Series DC) #1-3 and Comic Cavalcade (1942-1954) #1. If you want to spring for the omnibus version instead... Volume 1 - 1st printing. Collects All Star Comics (1940-1978) #8, Sensation Comics (1942-1952) #1-24, Wonder Woman (1942-1986 1st Series DC) #1-7, and material from Comic Cavalcade (1942-1954) #1-4 . The issues are also available on the DC Universe app and I believe the Golden Age WW trades are available via Hoopla if your library offers that service. There also Millennium Editions of All Star #8, Sensation #1 and Wonder Woman #1... -M
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Post by junkmonkey on Aug 14, 2020 1:41:30 GMT -5
Can y'all help me? I want to read Wonder Woman's first appearances and some of her original stories. I want to see who she was created to be and not who she has since become. Is there an anthology out there I can get my hands on?
If you want a fictionalised account of the origin of her origin story I can recommend the film Professor Marston and the Wonder Women (2017)
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 14, 2020 8:42:49 GMT -5
Can y'all help me? I want to read Wonder Woman's first appearances and some of her original stories. I want to see who she was created to be and not who she has since become. Is there an anthology out there I can get my hands on?
If you want a fictionalised account of the origin of her origin story I can recommend the film Professor Marston and the Wonder Women (2017)
Fictionalized is putting it mildly.........more like total fantasy.
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 14, 2020 9:49:03 GMT -5
Try this if you'd like a historian's take:
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Post by Ozymandias on Aug 14, 2020 12:46:26 GMT -5
If you want a fictionalised account of the origin of her origin story I can recommend the film Professor Marston and the Wonder Women (2017)
Fictionalized is putting it mildly.........more like total fantasy. Unless his Wikipedia entry is similarly imaginary, the main facts (in the intro) match the movie plot. I'm sure the details will be fictionalized, which biopic doesn't?
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Post by junkmonkey on Aug 14, 2020 14:42:59 GMT -5
Fictionalized is putting it mildly.........more like total fantasy. Unless his Wikipedia entry is similarly imaginary, the main facts (in the intro) match the movie plot. I'm sure the details will be fictionalized, which biopic doesn't? It would be hard to compress decades of (in this case three people's) lives into 90 odd minutes and not take short cuts and combine characters and events. Personally I thought it was a compelling movie.
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