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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 4, 2021 21:45:11 GMT -5
I remember seeing ads for that collection in the Warren magazine back pages and wondering what the heck that picture had to do with Dracula. That was how Dracula looked when he went adventuring in Zamora, Corinthia, Nemedia and Aquilonia.
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Post by berkley on Oct 15, 2021 4:27:01 GMT -5
I've been reading the Jamie Delano Hellblazer the last few months and at some point Delano, filling in the background that Moore had left sketchy, lets the reader know that Constantine came from Liverpool. I don't thnk this contradicts anything from the Moore Swamp Thing, but it does leave me with a question: Contantine's accent.
Reading Swamp Thing back in the '80s I'd heard Constantine's speech in a kind of generic, slightly cockneyfied, London accent - and I must make clear that I have only the usual outsider's vague ideas of the many and various UK accents, mostly garnered from UK tv shows over the years, so my idea of a "London accent" has been mostly shaped by that limited experience. Also, the fact that his appearance had been based on Sting made me hear him in some modified version of Sting's accent, though not his slightly high-pitched voice (note: I have no idea if Sting's is a London accent, that's just how I thought of it).
But anyway, when Delano made Constantine a Liverpudlian, it made me wnder if I'd been reading/hearing his parts of the dialogue wrong all these years - did he sound more like John Lennon than Sting? So my question is:
What is Constantine's accent?
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Post by Confessor on Oct 15, 2021 4:57:31 GMT -5
I've been reading the Jamie Delano Hellblazer the last few months and at some point Delano, filling in the background that Moore had left sketchy, lets the reader know that Constantine came from Liverpool. I don't thnk this contradicts anything from the Moore Swamp Thing, but it does leave me with a question: Contantine's accent. Reading Swamp Thing back in the '80s I'd heard Constantine's speech in a kind of generic, slightly cockneyfied, London accent - and I must make clear that I have only the usual outsider's vague ideas of the many and various UK accents, mostly garnered from UK tv shows over the years, so my idea of a "London accent" has been mostly shaped by that limited experience. Also, the fact that his appearance had been based on Sting made me hear him in some modified version of Sting's accent, though not his slightly high-pitched voice (note: I have no idea if Sting's is a London accent, that's just how I thought of it). But anyway, when Delano made Constantine a Liverpudlian, it made me wnder if I'd been reading/hearing his parts of the dialogue wrong all these years - did he sound more like John Lennon than Sting? So my question is: What is Constantine's accent?I can't really answer about Constantine specifically, as I've not read enough (if any). But a "London accent" is basically that cockneyfied kind of thing. The real cockney accent is centred around the East End of London, and it softens slightly as you move out into the rest of London and the surrounding counties. But to American ears, yeah, the London accent is probably best described as that cockney-esque accent. Sting, on the other hand, is from Newcastle (about 300 miles north of London), so he has a "Geordie" accent. Although it's quite a subtle Geordie accent compared to many people from that area.
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Post by foxley on Oct 15, 2021 5:15:05 GMT -5
Constantine's accent should be Liverpudlian but given he has given he has knocked around the world a bit, he has probably had some of the edges knocked off it. We know he has lived in Northampton, London and San Francisco. Given that he uses a lot of London slang, I assume his time there had an impact on his accent. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if he deliberately adopted a London accent during his punk rock days. It's hard to be taken seriously as punk rocker if you sound like Ringo Starr, plus John would have been trying to distance himself from his father at that time.
So his accent may have averaged out by now to a generic Northern English, reverting to full Scouse in times of stress. And going full cockney when he is being especially sarcastic.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 15, 2021 6:55:42 GMT -5
With whatever accent, it's pronounced Constan-tyne!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 15, 2021 6:57:13 GMT -5
Is it true that the Gwen Stacy- Norman Osborn fling has been retconned away?
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Oct 15, 2021 9:05:50 GMT -5
Is it true that the Gwen Stacy- Norman Osborn fling has been retconned away? I mean, if it hasn't, haven't we all mentally retconned it away anyway? Like we just ignore that chunk of Spidey lore? I know I do.
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Post by commond on Oct 15, 2021 10:15:30 GMT -5
I've been re-reading Neal Adam's Deadman run in Strange Adventures. The most notable things about it to me are the panel layout and the way Adams uses all sorts of different angles and close-ups that were revolutionary at the time. There's a lot of psychedelic lettering as well. My question is did anyone read the Neal Adams mini series a few years ago that was supposed to conclude the series?
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 15, 2021 12:00:13 GMT -5
Is it true that the Gwen Stacy- Norman Osborn fling has been retconned away? It has, in ASM#73, released 5 weeks ago.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 15, 2021 12:16:18 GMT -5
Is it true that the Gwen Stacy- Norman Osborn fling has been retconned away? It has, in ASM#73, released 5 weeks ago. Thanks, Ozymandias! I hope Peter didn't have to strike another deal with the devil.
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 15, 2021 14:50:06 GMT -5
It has, in ASM#73, released 5 weeks ago. Thanks, Ozymandias! I hope Peter didn't have to strike another deal with the devil.Well, Mephisto was there, but the thing with the twins and the supposed Gwen-Norman affair was all Harry's concoction. Nothing supernatural, just your usual super-silliness.
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Post by commond on Oct 17, 2021 4:14:38 GMT -5
I've been re-reading Neal Adam's Deadman run in Strange Adventures. The most notable things about it to me are the panel layout and the way Adams uses all sorts of different angles and close-ups that were revolutionary at the time. There's a lot of psychedelic lettering as well. My question is did anyone read the Neal Adams mini series a few years ago that was supposed to conclude the series? Man, that Aquaman backup story was bad. If that's an example of Adams' writing, I think I'll pass on the mini-series.
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Post by foxley on Oct 17, 2021 4:50:38 GMT -5
I've been re-reading Neal Adam's Deadman run in Strange Adventures. The most notable things about it to me are the panel layout and the way Adams uses all sorts of different angles and close-ups that were revolutionary at the time. There's a lot of psychedelic lettering as well. My question is did anyone read the Neal Adams mini series a few years ago that was supposed to conclude the series? Man, that Aquaman backup story was bad. If that an example of Adams' writing, I think I'll pass on the mini-series. The Adams writing I ever read was the Batman: Odyssey mini-series, which was just bizarre. It was so trippy, I am almost convinced he was smoking banana skins when he wrote it.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 17, 2021 10:57:21 GMT -5
Man, that Aquaman backup story was bad. If that an example of Adams' writing, I think I'll pass on the mini-series. The Adams writing I ever read was the Batman: Odyssey mini-series, which was just bizarre. It was so trippy, I am almost convinced he was smoking banana skins when he wrote it. Read his Continuity stuff, if you dare; he was always bat-s@#$.
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Post by MDG on Oct 17, 2021 11:26:56 GMT -5
The Adams writing I ever read was the Batman: Odyssey mini-series, which was just bizarre. It was so trippy, I am almost convinced he was smoking banana skins when he wrote it. Read his Continuity stuff, if you dare; he was always bat-s@#$. If I were cynical, I'd say he thinks if a book has "great art" the story doesn't matter.
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