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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 15:16:46 GMT -5
Trying to remember the Freedom Fighters from the 70's. Were they from Earth 2 & went to Earth X in the 40's (retcon) & then came to Earth 1 in their 70's series?
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Post by DE Sinclair on Apr 22, 2016 16:13:32 GMT -5
Trying to remember the Freedom Fighters from the 70's. Were they from Earth 2 & went to Earth X in the 40's (retcon) & then came to Earth 1 in their 70's series? From what I recall, they were originally from Earth-X and migrated to Earth-1 after the Nazis were wiped out on Earth-X. A later retcon in All-Star Squadron said they were originally from Earth-2 and went to Earth-X.
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Post by sabongero on Apr 22, 2016 17:48:10 GMT -5
I have read some X-Men (Uncanny X-Men, New X-Men/X-Men, X-Factor, etc.) sporadically, so I am not a diehard X-Men reader. However, I am familiar with some of the characters and some of the more popular stories.
My question is, how come there seems to be a prevalent "hatred" from X-Men fanboys on Chuck Austen's X-Men work?
I have read Chuck Austen's Superman stories in the past. I am not saying they are critically acclaimed, but I was entertained with the slam bang action he brought that Action Comics title.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 22, 2016 19:13:38 GMT -5
Iccy, you only seem to make these derogatory comments with women. You have admitted to holding them to a separate standard just because they hold on to fertilized eggs. It's that type of thinking that men use to assert their superiority. Keep them out of the work force, pay them less, keep them in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant, deny them the right to abortion, put a chastity belt on them, walk behind their man in public, on and on and it stems from people thinking the way you do. You made a few leaps in this paragraph. I will say no more about this topic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 19:22:11 GMT -5
I have read some X-Men (Uncanny X-Men, New X-Men/X-Men, X-Factor, etc.) sporadically, so I am not a diehard X-Men reader. However, I am familiar with some of the characters and some of the more popular stories. My question is, how come there seems to be a prevalent "hatred" from X-Men fanboys on Chuck Austen's X-Men work?I have read Chuck Austen's Superman stories in the past. I am not saying they are critically acclaimed, but I was entertained with the slam bang action he brought that Action Comics title. I didn't read his X-Men run but I assume it had to do with characterization. I liked the "action" part of his Superman run but IMO he made Lana unlikeable with his portrayal of her.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Apr 22, 2016 20:51:40 GMT -5
Anyone know if there is a good source on comic spinner racks? In terms of which ones are from which era, and maybe some insight to tell if they are original or not?
I ask because I am looking at one. The graphic on the top show Spidey, Superman, Archie and another characters head. From what I have read, it is mid seventies but I was curious if the top part was something that gets replaced or reproduced and if so how one can tell. It looks real nice but before shelling out a few hundred bucks, I want to make sure.
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 22, 2016 22:27:35 GMT -5
That's sounds genuine to me. I know of no experts, but can tell you I've bought thousands of comics from those same "Look Kids ! Comics!" spinner racks with Archie, Spider-Man, etc at the top. Someday, I too shall have one. I'm so happy for you finding one and buying it. There's no way it would fly in my current situation
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Post by Farrar on Apr 22, 2016 23:06:37 GMT -5
Anyone know if there is a good source on comic spinner racks? In terms of which ones are from which era, and maybe some insight to tell if they are original or not?
I ask because I am looking at one. The graphic on the top show Spidey, Superman, Archie and another characters head. From what I have read, it is mid seventies but I was curious if the top part was something that gets replaced or reproduced and if so how one can tell. It looks real nice but before shelling out a few hundred bucks, I want to make sure. I've seen the model you're describing--it's the "Comics/Read One Today!" with Spidey, Supes, Archie and Richie Rich (the "another character" ). Here's an article about someone who was able to get it for dirt cheap when the mom and pop store he'd bought comics from since the 1970s went out of business: www.iowalivingmagazines.com/2014/01/22/toy-stories-7/But barring that sort of situation, when I've seen it on Craigslist or eBay, it's usually priced anywhere from $200-$500.
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Post by spoon on Apr 22, 2016 23:13:41 GMT -5
I haven't read a lot of Batman after 1989 (A Lonely Place of Dying - early Tim Drake). What stories/run from Batman and Detective Comics from 1990 to present would you folks recommend?
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 23, 2016 0:52:54 GMT -5
Trying to remember the Freedom Fighters from the 70's. Were they from Earth 2 & went to Earth X in the 40's (retcon) & then came to Earth 1 in their 70's series? Correct. They were originally assumed to be from Earth X but retconned as having travelled there from Earth Two along with several other heroes in All-Star Squadron. They briefly moved to Earth One after Earth X was liberated from the Nazis, but were back on Earth X by the early eighties.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Apr 23, 2016 2:15:39 GMT -5
Trying to remember the Freedom Fighters from the 70's. Were they from Earth 2 & went to Earth X in the 40's (retcon) & then came to Earth 1 in their 70's series? Correct. They were originally assumed to be from Earth X but retconned as having travelled there from Earth Two along with several other heroes in All-Star Squadron. They briefly moved to Earth One after Earth X was liberated from the Nazis, but were back on Earth X by the early eighties. Example #35 why my love of super hero comics faded away
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 23, 2016 7:01:01 GMT -5
Correct. They were originally assumed to be from Earth X but retconned as having travelled there from Earth Two along with several other heroes in All-Star Squadron. They briefly moved to Earth One after Earth X was liberated from the Nazis, but were back on Earth X by the early eighties. Example #35 why my love of super hero comics faded away Why? I loved that story.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 23, 2016 8:03:23 GMT -5
Trying to remember the Freedom Fighters from the 70's. Were they from Earth 2 & went to Earth X in the 40's (retcon) & then came to Earth 1 in their 70's series? Just a reminder that I cover the '70s Freedom Fighters series in my CCF Guide to Earth-Two thread. Cei-U! I summon the *other* FF!
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Post by spoon on Apr 23, 2016 9:43:40 GMT -5
I have read some X-Men (Uncanny X-Men, New X-Men/X-Men, X-Factor, etc.) sporadically, so I am not a diehard X-Men reader. However, I am familiar with some of the characters and some of the more popular stories. My question is, how come there seems to be a prevalent "hatred" from X-Men fanboys on Chuck Austen's X-Men work?I have read Chuck Austen's Superman stories in the past. I am not saying they are critically acclaimed, but I was entertained with the slam bang action he brought that Action Comics title. My period of being a diehard X-Men reader ended before Chuck Austen's run started. However, I do own a few issues from after he switched from Uncanny to plain X-Men (dropping the New from the title) and I do have some sense of the disdain for Austen's work from my time on the X-board at the old place. Thus, for the most part my recollections will be second-had, so I might mis-describe things I've only heard from other people. One issue was that readers felt some of his plots were just dumb or abandoned what we knew about characters. For example, I remember complaints about revealing Nightcrawler's father to be an actual demon. Granted X-Men is a superhero comic with fantastic plotlines, but I think folks like the idea of Nightcrawler being a deformed person rather than a supernatural being. It undercuts the idea that his different, but human. He also introduced a character named Nurse Annie (the nurse at the Xavier school), who I believe was widely disliked. She became involved with Havok, after Austen made Polaris go nuts, two developments which many fans disliked. Supposedly, Nurse Annie and Havok were an effort for Austen to put his relationship with his own wife in X-Men. I believe fans also complained about how he dealt with romantic relationships in generally. He paired Angel with Husk (Paige Guthrie), which fans didn't like, maybe because of the age gap or because it was out of left field. I seem to recall fans complain at some point he depicted some X-Men having sex and ignoring an imminent threat or otherwise behaving irrationally. Part of it may be that his run on Uncanny overlapped with Grant Morrison on New X-Men and suffering by the comparison in fans' minds. I tried to jump back on to X-Men during the Milligan run, and decided to go back and read the handful of Austen issues after he jumped from Uncanny to X-Men. I didn't find those issues particularly bad. However, there may have been a couple of mitigating factors. That last arc was more or less a big fight, so that may mask the above flaws. Plus, I liked the Salvador Larroca art.
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 23, 2016 11:20:33 GMT -5
Except for Grant's run, and Ultimate X-Men, I've never regretted dropping X-Men during the Goblin Queen saga. That's where it really got crappy IMO. I briefly came back when the not-yet-Image guys, along with John Byrne, on # 281, read another issue or two and found it inpenetrable, and except for the aforementioned instances, have never looked back.
I've said before I try not to say bad things about a creator, but in this case I'll gladly make an exception. Austen was a hack.
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