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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 12, 2017 22:44:02 GMT -5
Are there any DC Super Heroes, through the Silver Age (lets say before 1970 or Jack Kirby joining) who debuted in their own title without having a series in an anthology book or trial issues in things like Showcase or Brave and Bold? Without spending too much time dwelling on this, I can't think of any offhand Captain Action, maybe? Though he was licensed. Good guess CB but I kind of disqualify him for, as you said, he was licensed and already appeared in numerous TV commercials and millions of toy boxes
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 12, 2017 22:49:55 GMT -5
Though I never heard this character getting credit for it, is it really true that Mr.Miracle was the first solo DC super hero to get his own book without a prior tryout?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 23:13:08 GMT -5
What about Brother Power, the Geek? His first appearance was in #1 of that series, no anthology appearances previously.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 23:37:02 GMT -5
Not really super-heroes, but Secret Six also debuted in their own #1 issue without previously appearing in an anthology. But they aren't solo either. Forever People also came out before Mr. Miracle, again not a solo hero, but a "super-hero" book debuting in it own title without the benefit of a previous anthology appearance for DC.
And of course, if you want to go back to the Golden age, Flash Comics #1 featured the debut of Flash. It is an anthology, but he is the title character too, so that could technically be the first to have his own book without a previous appearance elsewhere. All depends how you want to define it I guess.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 13, 2017 10:32:39 GMT -5
I think I had always read that the only DC character of that era who had ever debuted in its own #1 issue was Captain Storm.
Now, Sugar and Spike, Rex, Peter Panda and assorted other characters did too, back in the early Silver Age, but as for "serious" types, I think Storm was the only one up until the examples others have mentioned.
Oh, and maybe Bomba, but he was technically a licensed character, too.
Waitaminnit, what about Plastic Man? Unless you count that appearance in House of Mystery 160, but that wasn't really the same character. Though it may have been a tryout of sorts.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 13, 2017 10:42:36 GMT -5
I think I had always read that the only DC character of that era who had ever debuted in its own #1 issue was Captain Storm. Now, Sugar and Spike, Rex, Peter Panda and assorted other characters did too, back in the early Silver Age, but as for "serious" types, I think Storm was the only one up until the examples others have mentioned. Oh, and maybe Bomba, but he was technically a licensed character, too. Waitaminnit, what about Plastic Man? Unless you count that appearance in House of Mystery 160, but that wasn't really the same character. Though it may have been a tryout of sorts. The problem with Plastic Man is that he originally appeared in Police Comics published by Quality Comics.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 13, 2017 11:09:31 GMT -5
Just shows how conservative DC editorial was during the Golden and Silver Age with starting super hero titles. Even Lois Lane, for gods sakes, needed some Showcase appearances before getting her own #1. Good choices here, however
Bomba, as Hal mentioned, was a licensed character with 20 paperback books and 12 movies during the 1950's The Secret Six was a team and non-super powered too. Obviously inspired by the TV show Mission Impossible The Flash book in the Golden Age was an anthology and after awhile Flash got his own title with All-Flash Captain Storm, again non-super powered.Did the character previously show up in a DC war comic? Probably inspired by JFK's heralded experience on a PT Boat which was written up extensively and made into a movie
But Brother Power, The Geek? I always knew he was something special. But would you really classify him as a super-hero? I think of him as a four-color acid trip
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Post by MDG on Mar 13, 2017 11:17:50 GMT -5
I think I had always read that the only DC character of that era who had ever debuted in its own #1 issue was Captain Storm. Now, Sugar and Spike, Rex, Peter Panda and assorted other characters did too, back in the early Silver Age, but as for "serious" types, I think Storm was the only one up until the examples others have mentioned. Oh, and maybe Bomba, but he was technically a licensed character, too. Waitaminnit, what about Plastic Man? Unless you count that appearance in House of Mystery 160, but that wasn't really the same character. Though it may have been a tryout of sorts. The problem with Plastic Man is that he originally appeared in Police Comics published by Quality Comics. Even discounting his original run and a short reprint run in the early 60s (not by DC), there was this:
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Post by Crimebuster on Mar 13, 2017 12:04:20 GMT -5
Are there any DC Super Heroes, through the Silver Age (lets say before 1970 or Jack Kirby joining) who debuted in their own title without having a series in an anthology book or trial issues in things like Showcase or Brave and Bold? Without spending too much time dwelling on this, I can't think of any offhand After thinking about it, I realized there was one, though technically I guess this is before DC was DC.
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Post by MDG on Mar 13, 2017 13:10:50 GMT -5
Did Jimmy have any solo stories in Superman or Action before getting his own book?
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 13, 2017 14:25:19 GMT -5
But Jimmy Olsen was a supporting character in the Superman books before getting a title of his own.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 13, 2017 14:50:03 GMT -5
I think I had always read that the only DC character of that era who had ever debuted in its own #1 issue was Captain Storm. Now, Sugar and Spike, Rex, Peter Panda and assorted other characters did too, back in the early Silver Age, but as for "serious" types, I think Storm was the only one up until the examples others have mentioned. Oh, and maybe Bomba, but he was technically a licensed character, too. Waitaminnit, what about Plastic Man? Unless you count that appearance in House of Mystery 160, but that wasn't really the same character. Though it may have been a tryout of sorts. The problem with Plastic Man is that he originally appeared in Police Comics published by Quality Comics. Oh, of course. I just was talking about the fact that it was Plastic Man #1 that appeared without any knd of preview appearance at DC -- if you don't count the costume.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 13, 2017 15:10:55 GMT -5
Just shows how conservative DC editorial was during the Golden and Silver Age with starting super hero titles. Even Lois Lane, for gods sakes, needed some Showcase appearances before getting her own #1. Good choices here, however Bomba, as Hal mentioned, was a licensed character with 20 paperback books and 12 movies during the 1950's The Secret Six was a team and non-super powered too. Obviously inspired by the TV show Mission Impossible The Flash book in the Golden Age was an anthology and after awhile Flash got his own title with All-Flash Captain Storm, again non-super powered.Did the character previously show up in a DC war comic? Probably inspired by JFK's heralded experience on a PT Boat which was written up extensively and made into a movie But Brother Power, The Geek? I always knew he was something special. But would you really classify him as a super-hero? I think of him as a four-color acid trip The funny thing about Bomba was that he was billed as "TV's Teen Jungle Star." I know I always interpreted that to mean that he was on a TV series, which I'd never heard of. Turns out he was the star of a dozen B-movies form 1949-55. Although there was "Zim Bomba," a syndicated 1962 series that was made up of edited versions of the movies. Howver, "Zim Bomba" was not up there with Jungle Jim or Ramar of the Jungle on any kid's radar that I ever knew. New info: According to Amazon, "Zim-Bomba" was a ratings hit at WGN, Chicago, where Fred Silverman (you know who he was) was an exec. "Zim" in Swahili, means "son of," noted Silverman, apparently also an expert linguist. Oh, and as for Captain Storm, the answers are "no" and "yes." PT 109 was released in the summer of 1963 and Captain Storm's first issue set sail in March of 1964. The movie was not huge at the box office, though it sure was a big hit among the Great Escape set, but JFK's assassination brought his wartime exploits to the fore once again. My friends and I went back to see The Great Escape twice (unheard of in those days), and thought we liked PT 109, even JFK had nothing on Steve McQueen for coolness. Great Escape came out about two weeks after PT 109 and swamped it at the b.o.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 13, 2017 15:32:17 GMT -5
The problem with Plastic Man is that he originally appeared in Police Comics published by Quality Comics. Oh, of course. I just was talking about the fact that it was Plastic Man #1 that appeared without any knd of preview appearance at DC -- if you don't count the costume. So did Shazam Captain Marvel but he had another life in the Fawcett years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 15:41:49 GMT -5
I vaguely remember reading that a comic book writer, perhaps of Daredevil, hanging out on top of a building all night because he wanted to see what if was like since he was writing that in his story. Anyone know anything about this?
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