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Post by berkley on Jul 8, 2019 20:18:03 GMT -5
My thesis adviser had one simple rule about understanding historical movies-they will tell you much more about the time they were made than the time they were about. Based on the choices how they portray historical events, what themes they emphasize or de-emphasize, how they portray historical personages, etc. will tell you much more about the zeitgeist fo the times it was made that it will tell you about the reality of the events and people it portrays. -M And in the case of Mel Gibson's movies, they probably tell you more about his crazy obsessions and wacked-out world-view than about the subject matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 3:09:38 GMT -5
 TCM is doing classic sci-fi on Tuesdays in July and my DVR has been getting loaded up, and the first of those recorded that I watched was Thing From Another World. I love John Carpenter's The Thing, adapting Campbell's novella, but I had never seen the 1951 adaptation despite how highly regarded it is. It lives up to its rep. Fantastic film from an era where good sci-fi was the exception not the rule and tons of sci-fi flicks were getting made. -M |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jul 16, 2019 15:40:55 GMT -5
TCM is doing classic sci-fi on Tuesdays in July and my DVR has been getting loaded up, and the first of those recorded that I watched was Thing From Another World. I love John Carpenter's The Thing, adapting Campbell's novella, but I had never seen the 1951 adaptation despite how highly regarded it is. It lives up to its rep. Fantastic film from an era where good sci-fi was the exception not the rule and tons of sci-fi flicks were getting made.-M The Carpenter version of the story is different enough that in my head they are largely unrelated. Both films are fantastic and I wouldn't be able to pick which I prefer. My favorite part of the Hawks Thing is the uncredited appearance of Paul Frees as Dr. Vorhees. In addition to his voluminous cartoon work, Frees can be heard in dozens of movies looping various actors, but this was the first time I had seen the face behind the ubiquitous voice. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 19, 2019 1:09:56 GMT -5
TCM is doing classic sci-fi on Tuesdays in July and my DVR has been getting loaded up, and the first of those recorded that I watched was Thing From Another World. I love John Carpenter's The Thing, adapting Campbell's novella, but I had never seen the 1951 adaptation despite how highly regarded it is. It lives up to its rep. Fantastic film from an era where good sci-fi was the exception not the rule and tons of sci-fi flicks were getting made.-M The Carpenter version of the story is different enough that in my head they are largely unrelated. Both films are fantastic and I wouldn't be able to pick which I prefer. My favorite part of the Hawks Thing is the uncredited appearance of Paul Frees as Dr. Vorhees. In addition to his voluminous cartoon work, Frees can be heard in dozens of movies looping various actors, but this was the first time I had seen the face behind the ubiquitous voice. Yeah, similarly, there is a Mission Impossible episode with Vic Perrin, as a mobster. Perrin was the voice of Dr Zin and other characters on Jonny Quest and other cartoons, plus the Control voice, for The Outer Limits. You hear Frees in so many movies you think he is dozens of actors. He's in Patton, dubbing one of the journalists talking to Patton, during the occupation of Germany, talking about people joining the Nazi party like Democrats and republicans, which gets Patton in more hot water. He's in monster movies and serious films, all kinds of stuff. The closest to that, these days, is Frank Welker, who dubs more animals in films than actual recordings of animals. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 16:19:28 GMT -5
12 Angry Men ... Starring Henry Fonda
It was a joy to watch this classic movie on TCM this afternoon and it's really stands out of how 12 men/jurors all made an agreement to let a young man to go scot-free by not voting him guilty. It was an intense movie of constant arguments that stood out over the last argument about the glasses was considered the best part of the whole movie. I really enjoyed it very much and I haven't seen this movie in a very long time. Well made and done just beautifully.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 20, 2019 21:42:44 GMT -5
12 Angry Men ... Starring Henry Fonda It was a joy to watch this classic movie on TCM this afternoon and it's really stands out of how 12 men/jurors all made an agreement to let a young man to go scot-free by not voting him guilty. It was an intense movie of constant arguments that stood out over the last argument about the glasses was considered the best part of the whole movie. I really enjoyed it very much and I haven't seen this movie in a very long time. Well made and done just beautifully. There was a version made for HBO or cable, with Jack Lemon in the Fonda role. Edward James Olmos plays an Eastern-European, which was a bit weird. Not bad, not quite as good as the original. it is filled with some of the finest character actors, ever. I would like to see someone do it with an all-female cast, of similar caliber actresses; or, a lone female in the Fonda role. Would add some interesting dynamics to the arguments. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 28, 2019 12:43:51 GMT -5
12 Angry Men ... Starring Henry Fonda It was a joy to watch this classic movie on TCM this afternoon and it's really stands out of how 12 men/jurors all made an agreement to let a young man to go scot-free by not voting him guilty. It was an intense movie of constant arguments that stood out over the last argument about the glasses was considered the best part of the whole movie. I really enjoyed it very much and I haven't seen this movie in a very long time. Well made and done just beautifully. There was a version made for HBO or cable, with Jack Lemon in the Fonda role. Edward James Olmos plays an Eastern-European, which was a bit weird. Not bad, not quite as good as the original. it is filled with some of the finest character actors, ever. I would like to see someone do it with an all-female cast, of similar caliber actresses; or, a lone female in the Fonda role. Would add some interesting dynamics to the arguments. Don't know if there's been an all-female version done on stage, though I'll bet there has, but there is a gender-neutral version for the stage titled "Twelve Angry Jurors" that is often staged. |
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Post by berkley on Jul 29, 2019 12:36:32 GMT -5
12 Angry Men ... Starring Henry Fonda It was a joy to watch this classic movie on TCM this afternoon and it's really stands out of how 12 men/jurors all made an agreement to let a young man to go scot-free by not voting him guilty. It was an intense movie of constant arguments that stood out over the last argument about the glasses was considered the best part of the whole movie. I really enjoyed it very much and I haven't seen this movie in a very long time. Well made and done just beautifully. There was a version made for HBO or cable, with Jack Lemon in the Fonda role. Edward James Olmos plays an Eastern-European, which was a bit weird. Not bad, not quite as good as the original. it is filled with some of the finest character actors, ever. I would like to see someone do it with an all-female cast, of similar caliber actresses; or, a lone female in the Fonda role. Would add some interesting dynamics to the arguments.
A while back, I was thinking of putting on the Random List thread the 12 actresses I would have liked to see in the all-female Ocean's Eleven that was out at the time, since I didn't like any of they actually cast in the movie, but I couldn't narrow it down to just 12 so I dropped the idea. It's an interesting subject for speculation though.
There was a Russian movie around maybe 10 years ago or more that was kind of based on the idea of 12 Angry Men but probably strayed too far from the original to be called an adaptation. I think the crime was connected to the Chechnyan rebellion. Worth a look.
(edit:) I see that wiki does describe it as a remake of the Lumet film, so maybe it was closer than I thought. It was called 12 and I also see that there was some criticism of it being pro-Putin, since one of the more sympathetic characters was an ex-intelligence officer and two other jurors were apparently caricatures of an opposition leader and a tv producer, presumably one critical of Putin. I must admit I don't recall the movie in enough detail to say how negatively or otherwise those characters were portrayed. But anyway, I suppose the viewer should beware (or at least be aware).
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 29, 2019 12:46:28 GMT -5
The best movie with an entirely female cast is probably 1939's The Women.
As with the fourth Indiana Jones, the notion that there was another version made a few years ago is an urban myth.
Or should be.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 4, 2019 11:15:49 GMT -5
In July, I only saw one movie from the "1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die" list. I only have nine films left and they are getting harder to find. I was also busy because I was supposed to move to Idaho but that didn't happen because of a major re-organization at the company of the person who was asking me to move to Idaho to be the caretaker of a large retirement home. They won't be retiring for eight years and are thinking of selling the Idaho property. Three days before leaving, they called it off. I'm pretty bummed.
Another reason I only saw a single movie is that the movie I saw is ten hours long. It's the longest film on the List.
1. Dekalog (1989) - Dekalog is a film made for Polish television. It's a series of ten films, each film about one of the Ten Commandments. Some of these films are great! Some of them are kinda "meh." I watched it over two weeks. I would watch an episode every night for two or three days and then skip a day or two. I found it on a Spanish-language film site, so I saw it with Spanish sub-titles.
I'm glad I have this one out of the way!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 5, 2019 20:30:00 GMT -5
Le voyage dans la Lune by Georges Mélies is one of the very first science-fiction movies ever made, and it is a beauty!!!
It is altogether charming. Almost Burroughsian at times, when we discover the caves of the moon and the Selenites show up!
There is such ingeniosity in those old films, back when pretty much everything had to be invented!
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 5, 2019 20:55:02 GMT -5
I love early effects films and Mélies is the top! May I recommend this single DVD collection (I purchased it with a similar volume of Windsor McCay animations)...  |
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Post by String on Aug 19, 2019 17:08:14 GMT -5
Last night was Audrey Hepburn night on TCM. My wife is a big Hepburn fan and I guess it's spilled over onto me for I find her films entrancing to watch.
I didn't see it till late in the evening so I reckon I missed Breakfast at Tiffany's. A shame, such a surreal film to me between Hepburn and Peppard's performances (even if you can overlook the horrible Mickey Rooney caricature Asian neighbor).
My Fair Lady is one of those films for me that, regardless of whenever I catch it on TV, I always catch in the exact same spot. In this instance, the scenes at the horse races. I don't mind though because the costuming and color scheme is so great, it begs to be watched. Especially the one scene where everyone is talking then they all pause to turn to face the track as the horses race by then turn back to resume their conversations. My wife has seen this film enough times that she can sing every song within it.
However, I did manage to watch all of Sabrina with Hepburn, Bogart, and Holden. Quite the funny film with some touching moments throughout. Reading up on it's trivia on IMDB, I'm intrigued by the notion that some critics thought Bogart may have been too old for the part of elder brother Linus Larrabee. As love interests for Hepburn's Sabrina, the idea is bandied about that Holden should've played Linus while someone younger play his part of David Larrabee. Either way, I think Bogart gives a fine performance here, even with the witty dialogue zingers. The age difference between their characters might be off somewhat but I think the moments between him and Hepburn were quite good. (And no, I've never seen the 90s remake with Harrison Ford though the wife has and she liked it as well).
What I find more annoying is whenever I spot an actor in a film that I'm familiar with yet can't recall where else exactly that I've seen them. In this case, it's John Williams who plays Sabrina's father. I checked over his filmography on IMDB yet nothing really stands out to me where I might remember him from other than his appearing in 2 episodes of Battlestar Galactica.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 19, 2019 18:44:46 GMT -5
Last night was Audrey Hepburn night on TCM. My wife is a big Hepburn fan and I guess it's spilled over onto me for I find her films entrancing to watch. I didn't see it till late in the evening so I reckon I missed Breakfast at Tiffany's. A shame, such a surreal film to me between Hepburn and Peppard's performances (even if you can overlook the horrible Mickey Rooney caricature Asian neighbor). My Fair Lady is one of those films for me that, regardless of whenever I catch it on TV, I always catch in the exact same spot. In this instance, the scenes at the horse races. I don't mind though because the costuming and color scheme is so great, it begs to be watched. Especially the one scene where everyone is talking then they all pause to turn to face the track as the horses race by then turn back to resume their conversations. My wife has seen this film enough times that she can sing every song within it. However, I did manage to watch all of Sabrina with Hepburn, Bogart, and Holden. Quite the funny film with some touching moments throughout. Reading up on it's trivia on IMDB, I'm intrigued by the notion that some critics thought Bogart may have been too old for the part of elder brother Linus Larrabee. As love interests for Hepburn's Sabrina, the idea is bandied about that Holden should've played Linus while someone younger play his part of David Larrabee. Either way, I think Bogart gives a fine performance here, even with the witty dialogue zingers. The age difference between their characters might be off somewhat but I think the moments between him and Hepburn were quite good. (And no, I've never seen the 90s remake with Harrison Ford though the wife has and she liked it as well). What I find more annoying is whenever I spot an actor in a film that I'm familiar with yet can't recall where else exactly that I've seen them. In this case, it's John Williams who plays Sabrina's father. I checked over his filmography on IMDB yet nothing really stands out to me where I might remember him from other than his appearing in 2 episodes of Battlestar Galactica. Well, depending on your age, two things spring to mind: He was the second mr French, on Family Affair, taking over from Sebastian Cabot, and he is prominent in To Catch a Thief, as the insurance guy who puts Cary Grant onto finding the jewel thief. The other major thing I think of, with him, is that he used to do this commercial for a classical music set, which brought up how many musical themes were actually from pieces of classical music. (120 Music Masterpieces, from Columbia House). He also appeared in several Alfred Hitchcock Presents. One of my favorites, of his movie appearances, is in The Secret War of Harry Frigg. He is a British Brigadier, who is captured, along with two American and a French brigadier generals, by the Italians, and taken to a special prison, created on a countess' estate. Paul newman is a prisoner who keeps escaping from the stockade, who is made a major general to get the generals out, as it is embarrassing that they have been captured and don't escape (they make plans; but, since they are all of the same rank, no one can lead and none will agree on the others' plans). really great film, used to be shown on WTBS quite a bit, in the late 80s. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 19, 2019 22:26:15 GMT -5
Last night was Audrey Hepburn night on TCM. My wife is a big Hepburn fan and I guess it's spilled over onto me for I find her films entrancing to watch. I didn't see it till late in the evening so I reckon I missed Breakfast at Tiffany's. A shame, such a surreal film to me between Hepburn and Peppard's performances (even if you can overlook the horrible Mickey Rooney caricature Asian neighbor). My Fair Lady is one of those films for me that, regardless of whenever I catch it on TV, I always catch in the exact same spot. In this instance, the scenes at the horse races. I don't mind though because the costuming and color scheme is so great, it begs to be watched. Especially the one scene where everyone is talking then they all pause to turn to face the track as the horses race by then turn back to resume their conversations. My wife has seen this film enough times that she can sing every song within it. However, I did manage to watch all of Sabrina with Hepburn, Bogart, and Holden. Quite the funny film with some touching moments throughout. Reading up on it's trivia on IMDB, I'm intrigued by the notion that some critics thought Bogart may have been too old for the part of elder brother Linus Larrabee. As love interests for Hepburn's Sabrina, the idea is bandied about that Holden should've played Linus while someone younger play his part of David Larrabee. Either way, I think Bogart gives a fine performance here, even with the witty dialogue zingers. The age difference between their characters might be off somewhat but I think the moments between him and Hepburn were quite good. (And no, I've never seen the 90s remake with Harrison Ford though the wife has and she liked it as well). What I find more annoying is whenever I spot an actor in a film that I'm familiar with yet can't recall where else exactly that I've seen them. In this case, it's John Williams who plays Sabrina's father. I checked over his filmography on IMDB yet nothing really stands out to me where I might remember him from other than his appearing in 2 episodes of Battlestar Galactica. Well, depending on your age, two things spring to mind: He was the second mr French, on Family Affair, taking over from Sebastian Cabot, and he is prominent in To Catch a Thief, as the insurance guy who puts Cary Grant onto finding the jewel thief. The other major thing I think of, with him, is that he used to do this commercial for a classical music set, which brought up how many musical themes were actually from pieces of classical music. (120 Music Masterpieces, from Columbia House). He also appeared in several Alfred Hitchcock Presents. One of my favorites, of his movie appearances, is in The Secret War of Harry Frigg. He is a British Brigadier, who is captured, along with two American and a French brigadier generals, by the Italians, and taken to a special prison, created on a countess' estate. Paul newman is a prisoner who keeps escaping from the stockade, who is made a major general to get the generals out, as it is embarrassing that they have been captured and don't escape (they make plans; but, since they are all of the same rank, no one can lead and none will agree on the others' plans). really great film, used to be shown on WTBS quite a bit, in the late 80s. He was also superb as a police inspector in another Hitchcock, Dial M for Murder (1954), which is among other things, a proto- Columbo episode, in which Williams disarms Ray Milland's smug rich guy villain with British propriety and stylishness in the same way that Peter Falk uses a lack of sophistication and style on his array of condescending killers. |
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