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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 25, 2022 12:26:44 GMT -5
The best Bond film is You Only Live Twice.
Ninja commando assault on hidden volcano fortress!
I rest my case.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 25, 2022 12:28:35 GMT -5
Also, day before yesterday I watched the greatest Christmas film ever, Die Hard. As is tradition at my home. Here's a question I pose to that debate: if Die Hard is a "Christmas Movie," then what about Lethal Weapon? It’s honestly been so long since I’ve seen Lethal Weapon that I don’t have an answer.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 25, 2022 12:31:08 GMT -5
The best Bond film is On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Which I also consider a Christmas film.
As for Lethal Weapon, maybe it's a Christmas film, but I honestly don't care. Doesn't hold a candle to Die Hard.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 13:15:27 GMT -5
My non-scientific criteria: a film is only a Christmas film if Santa - the real Santa - appears or is mentioned in some way, shape or form. Or there has to be a ghost associated with Christmas. No real Santa or ghosts appeared in the films mentioned, ergo they are not Christmas films. I believe my rule would stand up to scientific scrutiny…
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 25, 2022 14:53:44 GMT -5
The best Bond film is On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Which I also consider a Christmas film. As for Lethal Weapon, maybe it's a Christmas film, but I honestly don't care. Doesn't hold a candle to Die Hard. I'd call OHMSS more of a Yule Movie.....
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 25, 2022 16:54:24 GMT -5
The best Bond film is You Only Live Twice. Ninja commando assault on hidden volcano fortress! I rest my case. This is my second favorite Bond film. Well, it’s almost a tie between Dr. No and You Only Live Twice. I give Dr. No a few extra points for being the first one and getting so much right!
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 25, 2022 16:56:10 GMT -5
The best Bond film is On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Which I also consider a Christmas film. As for Lethal Weapon, maybe it's a Christmas film, but I honestly don't care. Doesn't hold a candle to Die Hard. I like OHMSS a lot!
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Post by berkley on Dec 25, 2022 18:45:52 GMT -5
I give Dr. No a few extra points for being the first one and getting so much right!
I agree with this: it might not be the best Bond movie but it's probably the most important, as it inaugurated a new kind of film-making.
The book might be my favourite Bond novel, possibly in part because it was the first one I read and thus the one that made me aware of the differences between the character in Fleming's books and the one from the movies. Although, having recently re-read the first four, it has strong competition from Moonraker.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 18:51:34 GMT -5
I grew up watching Roger Moore’s era on TV, with plenty of glitz, glamour and gadgets. So when I first saw Doctor No, it seemed real low-key and less glamorous in comparison with the Moore Era. So I was prejudiced against it.
When I saw it as an adult, I was able to appreciate it on its own merits. And it has a great line:
Dr. No [to Bond]: “You are just a stupid policeman whose luck has run out.”
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 25, 2022 19:21:10 GMT -5
I grew up with Roger Moore as Bond also. The first Bond film I saw at the theater was The Man With the Golden Gun. I was nine or 10.
But the Sean Connery Bond films were showing up on television on a regular basis. I like the Roger Moore films. I like some of them a lot.
But Sean Connery IS James Bond.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 26, 2022 5:42:40 GMT -5
So, late last night I decided to finally get around to watching a movie I've been hearing about (and being ridiculed) for years, Santa Claus Conquers the Martians...
One thing I've noticed is that there are those who like this as a "so bad it's good" movie a la Plan 9 from Outer Space, and others who genuinely like it and find it entertaining. Personally, I fall more into the former rather than latter category. I can't honestly say I think it's good, but it is so bonkers that a movie like this was even made that I have to appreciate the effort. And it has a certain camp value as well. Otherwise, much has been made of the fact that one of the Martian children is played by a 10 year-old Pia Zadora; however, I was wondering why the reporter who visits Santa's workshop at the North Pole right at the start of the movie looked so familiar. So I looked it up and learned that he was played by an actor named Ned Wertimer - probably best known for playing the Ralph the doorman on The Jeffersons. By the way, since it's public domain, the whole movie is up on YouTube.
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Post by tartanphantom on Dec 26, 2022 10:29:22 GMT -5
The best Bond film is the original Casino Royale... because it lampoons the entire genre. Niven, Sellers, Allen, as well as Welles, Boyer, Huston and Holden in the cast? Can't beat that kind of casting.
Besides, who needs Albert Broccoli's "Bond Girls" when you have a cast which includes Ursula Andress (a former Bond Girl), Deborah Kerr, Joanna Pettet, Daliah Lavi and Barbara Bouchet, not even to mention the 5 daughters of Lord McTarry?
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 26, 2022 11:55:17 GMT -5
The best Bond film is the original Casino Royale... because it lampoons the entire genre. Niven, Sellers, Allen, as well as Welles, Boyer, Huston and Holden in the cast? Can't beat that kind of casting.
Besides, who needs Albert Broccoli's "Bond Girls" when you have a cast which includes Ursula Andress (a former Bond Girl), Deborah Kerr, Joanna Pettet, Daliah Lavi and Barbara Bouchet, not even to mention the 5 daughters of Lord McTarry?
Ughhhh.....I have tried to enjoy that movie, even as camp and it just fails every time. It has a few, very scattered moments; but, it badly suffers from Too Many Cooks Syndrome. Ironically, that is what plagued the Bond series in later years, as the scripts were being done by committee (insert this, need a big stunt, product placement). I enjoy most of the Moore period and liked Living Daylights and Goldeneye; but, the Bond films badly suffered when Harry Salztman was no longer involved. As for the Bond books, I find OHMSS to be the pinnacle of Fleming's writing, followed by From Russia With Love and Dr No (hard to choose a favorite between those two). For the most part, I enjoy the entire literary series, except for Diamonds Are Forever, The Spy Who Loved Me (a rather failed experiment, if you ask me) and Man With The Golden Gun (well, I like some of it). Goldfinger I can kind of take or leave. It has some god sections; but, I thought the film was more entertaining.
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 26, 2022 13:22:28 GMT -5
The best Bond film is the original Casino Royale... because it lampoons the entire genre. Niven, Sellers, Allen, as well as Welles, Boyer, Huston and Holden in the cast? Can't beat that kind of casting.
Besides, who needs Albert Broccoli's "Bond Girls" when you have a cast which includes Ursula Andress (a former Bond Girl), Deborah Kerr, Joanna Pettet, Daliah Lavi and Barbara Bouchet, not even to mention the 5 daughters of Lord McTarry?
I love the 1967 version of Casino Royale. In the 90s, I taped it off of AMC, and so I had a VHS tape with Casino Royale, Modesty Blaise and The Last of the Secret Agents? The VHS tape is long gone. I still have Casino Royale on DVD, and I used to watch it pretty often, but at this point I haven’t seen it for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2022 13:23:09 GMT -5
I learnt recently that Fleming had worked for Reuters. Whenever I’ve read a Reuters article, it has been clear, concise and (hopefully) correct, so that would explain why I find the Bond books to be so readable and smoothly-flowing.
If only Stephen King had worked for Reuters…
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