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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 20, 2015 18:12:39 GMT -5
The Scarlet Witch's look always turned me off with the reddish hair, red bathing suit, head-piece, & cape, and pink tights: just too much red/rose/pink. For that reason the (accidental?) black hair in the middle panel here looks good ... For some reason - possibly a coloring oversight - the Scarlet Witch's hair went from brown/reddish to blue/black when Quicksilver and Wanda joined the Avengers. I love it! I think it looks so much better than reddish. I'm not sure how long it lasted. I have Avengers #21 to #23 and it's blue/black in those, but I've read most Silver Age Avengers in black and white reprints. I seem to remember reading a Roy Thomas interview talking about noticing the old X-Men issues and the red hair and he decided to get the colorist to go back to that. I think it was fairly early in his run. Maybe about #50 or so?
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Post by Cei-U! on Oct 20, 2015 19:06:39 GMT -5
Wanda's hair went back to auburn in Avengers #75 (though that issue's cover has it still black).
Cei-U! I summon the Lady Clairol!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 20, 2015 20:06:08 GMT -5
Oh, I think Clint knew exactly what he was doing by continuing to wear that short, revealing skirt/dress tunic. After all, with the exception of Captain America (and the Vizh later on of course), look at the flesh-baring fellows she'd been attracted to in the past. I think Jan's attire (with those--streamers, I guess they are) on that page is ridiculous, but I guess it was the style back then. The Scarlet Witch's look always turned me off with the reddish hair, red bathing suit, head-piece, & cape, and pink tights: just too much red/rose/pink. For that reason the (accidental?) black hair in the middle panel here looks good, but the easiest solution would be to get rid of the pink tights/body-suit and the head-piece, both of which I think would be ugly in and of themselves no matter what colour they were. I think her head thing is so far away from something that someone would actually wear that it flirts with Godlike genius.
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Post by berkley on Oct 20, 2015 23:05:28 GMT -5
The Scarlet Witch's look always turned me off with the reddish hair, red bathing suit, head-piece, & cape, and pink tights: just too much red/rose/pink. For that reason the (accidental?) black hair in the middle panel here looks good, but the easiest solution would be to get rid of the pink tights/body-suit and the head-piece, both of which I think would be ugly in and of themselves no matter what colour they were. I think her head thing is so far away from something that someone would actually wear that it flirts with Godlike genius. True, there is that. Not a patch on Kirby's best head-piece designs, though - like Hela's, for example. Thena's in the Eternals looks good too.
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Post by berkley on Oct 20, 2015 23:08:45 GMT -5
I didn't mind Hawkeye's skirt-costume, though it's not as good as the old purple one. Doctor Doom's skirt looks right for that character too. And another skirt that works:
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 21, 2015 5:33:53 GMT -5
Here is the digital download version, still looks like there is a piece missing, double page spread not blended correctly? Oh well, I can live with it! Thank you, I'm afraid the Masterworks will be identical. It looks like whole drawing wasn't available for remastering.
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 21, 2015 5:42:32 GMT -5
I went searching for another view and got this: Oh my! Being as short as it is, that skirt sure casts a mean shadow.
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 21, 2015 5:51:20 GMT -5
As I learned from my experience with binding years ago, you would lose a bunch of the art in the center […] if they *didn't* include the gap in the Masterworks printing. I say be thankful. But we do lose art in the center. It's not about the gap itself, but rather that it replaces part of the drawing. Maybe I didn't phrase that correctly the first time.
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Post by MDG on Oct 21, 2015 8:38:37 GMT -5
As I learned from my experience with binding years ago, you would lose a bunch of the art in the center […] if they *didn't* include the gap in the Masterworks printing. I say be thankful. But we do lose art in the center. It's not about the gap itself, but rather that it replaces part of the drawing. Maybe I didn't phrase that correctly the first time. I wonder if the artist screwed up and turned in art the wrong size. The original art boards in the 80s (at DC anyway) had blueline instructions where to cut and connect two pieces for a double-page spread, so that even if there's a white gap at the center, the art itself is continuous. Re Wanda's headpiece: it's my favorite example of later artists trying to make sense of Jack's off-the-cuff designs.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Oct 21, 2015 16:27:08 GMT -5
Oh, I think Clint knew exactly what he was doing by continuing to wear that short, revealing skirt/dress tunic. After all, with the exception of Captain America (and the Vizh later on of course), look at the flesh-baring fellows she'd been attracted to in the past. I think Jan's attire (with those--streamers, I guess they are) on that page is ridiculous, but I guess it was the style back then. The Scarlet Witch's look always turned me off with the reddish hair, red bathing suit, head-piece, & cape, and pink tights: just too much red/rose/pink. For that reason the (accidental?) black hair in the middle panel here looks good, but the easiest solution would be to get rid of the pink tights/body-suit and the head-piece, both of which I think would be ugly in and of themselves no matter what colour they were. Since that's basically her entire costume, what you're saying is you'd rather her naked?
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 21, 2015 16:33:39 GMT -5
The Scarlet Witch's look always turned me off with the reddish hair, red bathing suit, head-piece, & cape, and pink tights: just too much red/rose/pink. For that reason the (accidental?) black hair in the middle panel here looks good, but the easiest solution would be to get rid of the pink tights/body-suit and the head-piece, both of which I think would be ugly in and of themselves no matter what colour they were. Since that's basically her entire costume, what you're saying is you'd rather her naked? Not naked. Covered with bananas.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 21, 2015 17:27:48 GMT -5
Yeah, there's a bit missing in the middle but it doesn't look as bad as the scans from the original comic. I read it sitting on the floor with the book on my feet and could barely notice it.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 21, 2015 21:11:42 GMT -5
The gap is the least of the problems with that coloring job. It's atrocious. What do you dislike about it? Seems pretty typical of the era to me, a little subdued, but suitable enough for a night-time scene, I'd say. Sorry...took a while. Ummmm...Quicksilver's blue and white hair, Black Panther's white nose, the wonky shading on...I assume that's the Black Knight, particularly on his legs, Hawkeye's greenish neck and face. To me there's just a ton of wonky coloring and bad separations that make the spread look pretty horrible.
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Post by berkley on Oct 22, 2015 1:03:53 GMT -5
What do you dislike about it? Seems pretty typical of the era to me, a little subdued, but suitable enough for a night-time scene, I'd say. Sorry...took a while. Ummmm...Quicksilver's blue and white hair, Black Panther's white nose, the wonky shading on...I assume that's the Black Knight, particularly on his legs, Hawkeye's greenish neck and face. To me there's just a ton of wonky coloring and bad separations that make the spread look pretty horrible. I can see it now that you point it out but I suppose I'm so used to that kind of sloppiness in the colours back then that I just filter it out unconsciously.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Oct 22, 2015 8:09:26 GMT -5
Since that's basically her entire costume, what you're saying is you'd rather her naked? Not naked. Covered with bananas. Another perfectly good fantasy shot to hell.
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