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Post by Warmonger on Aug 8, 2017 21:49:17 GMT -5
They need to wrap it up soon, and I'd say the same thing for the comic.
You can only drag out some sort of "epic" about a zombie apocalypse for so long.
The show has become incredibly stale at this point and so have the comics for that matter. It feels like they're about to set up another Rick and Co. vs the Saviors storyline any issue now.
The comic has had a nice, successful run for 14 years and the show for going on 8 seasons.
Let's get to a conclusion here.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 9, 2017 10:38:06 GMT -5
They need to wrap it up soon, and I'd say the same thing for the comic. You can only drag out some sort of "epic" about a zombie apocalypse for so long. The show has become incredibly stale at this point and so have the comics for that matter. It feels like they're about to set up another Rick and Co. vs the Saviors storyline any issue now. The comic has had a nice, successful run for 14 years and the show for going on 8 seasons. Let's get to a conclusion here. Absolutely, and let's do the same for the X-Men, Spider-Man, Punisher, Superman, Batman, Avengers, etc, right? |
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Post by Warmonger on Aug 9, 2017 11:04:54 GMT -5
They need to wrap it up soon, and I'd say the same thing for the comic. You can only drag out some sort of "epic" about a zombie apocalypse for so long. The show has become incredibly stale at this point and so have the comics for that matter. It feels like they're about to set up another Rick and Co. vs the Saviors storyline any issue now. The comic has had a nice, successful run for 14 years and the show for going on 8 seasons. Let's get to a conclusion here. Absolutely, and let's do the same for the X-Men, Spider-Man, Punisher, Superman, Batman, Avengers, etc, right? Don't see the comparison The Walking Dead is one long central story arc...and is really going nowhere. There aren't many distinguished, varied characters either. I've been reading the comics and watching the show since the beginning and I can't even remember half of their names. TWD also is set in a relatively grounded world (besides the flesh eating zombies) so you can't really do anything with it besides show people killing walkers, gathering supplies, or fighting amongst themselves. That's literally it. After 170 issues and 7 seasons worth of TV material...it's getting stale to say the least. And like clockwork, every week on the show and every month in the comic, I have to listen to the exact same conversation between 2 random characters. "We can't give up hope", "we can't do this or that otherwise we're no better than they are!", etc. etc. It's beyond played out at this point and judging by the steady drop in viewers over the last 2 years, clearly there are many others who agree. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 9, 2017 11:41:16 GMT -5
It's beyond played out at this point and judging by the steady drop in viewers over the last 2 years, clearly there are many others who agree. Well, I think that X-Men, Spider-Man, Punisher, Superman, Batman, Avengers (who have all experienced a steady drop in readership for quite some time, wouldn't you agree?), etc are beyond played out as well, and yet, as with TWD, I find myself enjoying it from time to time. |
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Post by Ozymandias on Aug 9, 2017 12:43:09 GMT -5
TWD also is set in a relatively grounded world (besides the flesh eating zombies) so you can't really do anything with it besides show people killing walkers, gathering supplies, or fighting amongst themselves. That's literally it. Lack of imagination, is what's giving us those as the only options. Let's play, for example, with the concept that sets that world apart from the real one: the virus that causes people's brains to reset after death, to some degree. Those brains are different, and could have unique qualities other than being really dumb. Now, let's throw some Moore into the mix and apply The Anatomy Lesson, to the zombies which fed off the remains of Glenn's brains. What idea did he have upon dying? "Maggie, I will find you." That's a powerful notion that could linger on those zombies and at some point, they could come to Maggie's aid. That'd be a neat turn of events. And that's just an example, but the writers should use their imagination, otherwise yes, we'll get stuck with variations of the same stories. |
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Post by Jesse on Aug 10, 2017 15:32:44 GMT -5
One of my complaints about season 7 was the way that The Scavengers from the Junkyard lead by Jadis talked with a sort of devolved speech pattern it makes no sense. My first impression of them which I'm sure others have been speculating was that Jadis is Alpha from the comics and I'm wondering if we are possibly getting a back story for The Whisperers which we don't get in the comics. |
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Post by Jesse on Oct 23, 2017 3:31:29 GMT -5
Season 8 episode 1 "Mercy" Decent enough start to this season but certainly not the best season premier they've done. I'm surprised they showed the old man Rick flash forward so early in the season. I really enjoyed reading this story arc and am looking forward to seeing how the rest of it plays out on the show. |
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Post by impulse on Oct 23, 2017 10:20:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree I'm surprised they went there so early. I wonder how closely they will mirror the comics. They are also covering a lot of ground quickly, then. I need to catch up on the comics reading.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 13:46:52 GMT -5
I agree with the idea of season 7 being an inferior product. Far too predictable in the villain in control / heroes find their spines set up. I understand that Negan is the big bad comic threat, but I'm already tired of the sadism, and "guess who is going to die this season" game this series inspired. Same here. I found Negan boorish. I will start watching again when he dies and they move on to a more interesting story line. |
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Post by cellardweller on Oct 23, 2017 20:08:29 GMT -5
enjoyed the season premier last night, I hope that "all out war" ends with Neegan's death, but I'm not sure it will.
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Post by Jesse on Oct 30, 2017 2:04:33 GMT -5
Season 8 Episode 2 "The Damned" This episode certainly didn't lack in action and definitely felt like all out war. I liked that Jesus was trying to take prisoners and Morgan being conflicted about it but it made Tara seems less likable. Interesting moment when Rick realizes he killed a father who was just protecting his baby. I was surprised that we finally learned the fate of Morales who I think left all the way back in season 1 or 2. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 18:35:47 GMT -5
Like a lot of TWD episodes of recent years there was a lot of nonsense in last week's season eight opener... like a sniper could take out the Saviors tree lookout from distance but couldn't shoot Negan out in the open on his balcony... or where do all their bullets come from for Rick's group to waste on warehouse windows etc., and don't get me started on Father Gabriel and his AK47 locked in with Negan. (There's only one winner in that contest though.) This week's episode was a bit better, with plenty of action and some interesting moments. The Jesus / Tara moral dilemma was one of them, but in this show Tara probably has the right idea. Shoot the f***ers! While the throwback cameo of the guy from the Atlanta camp in S1 was totally unexpected. The one question nobody seems to be asking in season eight though is... 'Where's Heath?' There must a lot of amnesia in the zombie apocalypse.  It's not been a bad start to the new season, although I think we could do with a lot more Shiva action! |
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Post by Jesse on Nov 6, 2017 13:58:42 GMT -5
Season 8 episode 3 "Monsters" Another episode full of intense action and a few interesting character moments. I was surprised Jesus and Morgan came to blows like that. Exciting cliffhanger! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 18:23:46 GMT -5
I thought this weeks' episode (Monsters) was a weak episode to be honest. The Jesus and his POW's storyline is nonsense, they won't be redeemed and we all know that some of them are going to cause chaos at the Hill Top later on in the season. The Morgan/Jesus fight was quite good though. Bringing Morales back just to kill him was a wasted opportunity too, and let's face it, the King constantly going on about losing none of his team obviously meant some of them were going to die. TWD doesn't do subtle! And how long is Maggie going to be pregnant for? Has time stood still in the Zombie Apocalypse? She should have a big bump and be waddling around by now. For me, this show is going downhill. |
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Post by tarkintino on Nov 9, 2017 18:49:51 GMT -5
Like a lot of TWD episodes of recent years there was a lot of nonsense in last week's season eight opener... like a sniper could take out the Saviors tree lookout from distance but couldn't shoot Negan out in the open on his balcony... If you mean the episode where Sasha could not shoot Negan because Eugene was in the way--yeah, that was ridiculous and just a set up for Sasha to meet her ultimate end. No consistency in character skills or actions at all. ...and meant nothing, other than--what I predict--a way of Rick comparing his own fall from his season one beliefs to those of Morales, and as a result, will listen to Carl's "hope" belief, and lock Negan up in the jail built by the one guy who used to preach hope (Morgan), instead of killing him. Of course, Negan will likely trick/kill someone and escape to join the Whisperers, etc., but this was all about Rick coming to some ideological/moral crossroads. Do we care? He was not established as an important secondary character with any meaning to anyone. Even Alexandria's Tobin was presented as more of a factor (including his brief sexual encounters with Carol) than Heath. If he returns as a villain, or with some "What did I do on my summer vacation"-type story that's tied to the next Big Bad, he's still a rather one-dimensional character. |
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